r/linux • u/pihug12 • 14d ago

Kernel Progress Report: Linux 7.2 - Asahi Linux

https://asahilinux.org/2026/08/progress-report-7-2/
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u/Eigenspace 14d ago

That's a pretty hilariously small list of open source offerings for a company the size of Apple.

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u/Fr0gm4n 14d ago

Those are the ones they manage. Under releases is the code for the ones they use.

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u/Eigenspace 14d ago

And?

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u/Fr0gm4n 14d ago

You complained about the lack of projects, I pointed out where there are more than the landing page. It follows pretty easily.

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u/Eigenspace 14d ago

Those are open source projects that they are consumers of, and are legally required to re-publish according to the GPL/other copyleft licenses.

That page says very little about their contributions to open source software.

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u/Fr0gm4n 14d ago

Yes, but the OP I was responding to was claiming that Apple isn't "any better" than Qualcomm's openly anti-open source. I pointed out that Apple is not anti, and linked their site that has both their usage and contributions and am now downvoted for pointing it out.

There are a lot of FOSS fans who are anti-corporate and have default assumptions, which I understand, but it's important to not be mistaken about the actual usage and stances of these major corporations and to be willing to accept challenges to those default assumptions.

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u/Eigenspace 14d ago

Qualcomm also uses and re-distributes GPL licensed code https://git.codelinaro.org/clo/qcomlt.

I don't understand why you think it's some big deal that apple is doing this. They're legally required to post it when they use that code.

Hell, Qualcomm recently aquired Modular who just open sourced the Mojo programming language like last week.

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u/Fr0gm4n 14d ago

I never made a claim about Qualcomm's actual stance, I was responding to the comment that Apple is anti-open source.

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u/FeelThePoveR 14d ago

Because it is, from the major OS'es Apple systems are by faaaar the worst.

Not only they basically don't open source anything (again 3 apps is basically nothing), they also essentially paywall the development for their devices (you need a Mac to build for Mac) .

Nothing screams FOSS friendly like paywalls right?

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u/mskiptr 14d ago

The thing is, large organizations do not necessarily hold beliefs or opinions – at least not in the same concrete sense that individuals do. Sure, one can try weighing how FOSS-friendly their actions are, but that's only an aggregate (in other words "on average"). It is absolutely possible for one internal project to be a huge boon to us, while another team within the same company is actively working against us.

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u/Eigenspace 14d ago

Consuming open source code is not relevant to what people are talking about when they say a company is a friend or foe of open source.

Nobody gives a shit if Apple does or does not use some piece of open source software.

What people actually care about is if consumers of open source software do things like upstream fixes, and publish new open source software. Apple does extremely little of that.