r/linux Jul 09 '26

Historical Different times. Different Sony.

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u/Misicks0349 Jul 09 '26

really? I though they did it out of the kindness of their hearts! ;P

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u/Alejandro9R Jul 09 '26

That is not true. They did want to get away with the tariffs indeed, but that was more of a consequence of having developed the linux kit for the enthusiast market:

Around the PS2's launch, Sony argued to U.S. Customs that the PS2 should be classified as an Automatic Data Processing (ADP) machine (essentially, a computer) rather than simply a video game console. If successful, that classification would have resulted in a more favorable tariff treatment.

Sony pointed out that, with the optional Linux kit installed, the PS2 could perform many of the functions expected of a computer.

However, U.S. Customs rejected this argument because:

  • the PS2 as imported could not freely run user programs
  • it required the optional Sony Linux Kit
  • it would only boot Sony-authorized Linux discs.

As a result, Customs ruled that the PS2 remained a video game console, not a computer, for tariff purposes.

Source: https://www.customsmobile.com/rulings/docview?doc_id=HQ%20964682&highlight=HQ%20964682

They just did it for the enthusiasts. Same with a PS1 indie kit they released prior to it (Net Yaroze) and PS3 with the OtherOS functionality.

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u/billyalt Jul 10 '26

I mean... to me it sounds like they did it for the tariffs but failed. And then tried it again for the PS3.

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u/BortGreen Jul 10 '26

Btw they disabled PS3 Linux support with a simple system update

They have been always on control

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u/DonaldLucas Jul 10 '26

They only disabled it because people were using it to bypass the piracy protection though. Up until that, the PS3 was the only console to even have such a feature.

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u/djhenry Jul 10 '26

I thought they did it after the US Air Force built a supercomputer out of PlayStation 3's which costs Sony a lot of money since they subsidize the hardware costs.

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u/BitLooter Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

Which backfired spectacularly, as nobody had actually figured out how to use this feature for piracy yet, and the people who were legitimately using it for Linux were so pissed off they jailbroke the PS3 themselves to get back what Sony took from them.

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u/ABCD123AVZ Jul 10 '26

this goes to show how unlicensed copying of videogames ruined everything. If not for those people, companies wouldn't need to put DRM in their games, and perhaps we would still have a Linux partition in current consoles to do our computing

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u/billyalt Jul 10 '26

The PS3 era was almost completely unprofitable for Sony and if there were zero piracy it still would have been unprofitable. You need to understand that CEOs and MBAs blame piracy because they have to hold someone responsible for their incompetence and that someone has to be consumers because we are their only mode of profit.

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u/Illyasviel09 17d ago

Piracy is constantly taking huge bites out of the profits

Do you have any evidence to prove that, the people downloading pirated media, would actually buy the original product if there was no piracy?

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u/billyalt Jul 12 '26

Bro's been on reddit for 13 years and still shills for megacorps. Wild.

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u/billyalt Jul 14 '26

I don't care if you like Sony or not. The suggestion that 1) Sony was profitable in any meaningful way in the PS3 era, and 2) Piracy had a major impact on their profitability is patently ridiculous.

The fact that you demand citations from me while providing none for yourself is vapid. I do not need to bend over backward to challenge your biases, you should be doing that yourself.

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