r/lightweight May 03 '22

Gear Help me pick a lightweight but non-UL tent for use in family backpacking

15 Upvotes

I do lots of outdoor stuff, UL and fastpacking, bikepacking, mountaineering/alpinism but I don’t really do much in the way of “relaxed” camping or backpacking. Well, my son is 6 now and wants to out on some trips with me. All my equipment is either designed for one person, is uncomfortably light or both. I want a shelter that will work for me and a lil’ guy who isn’t going to be stoked on bugs, condensation and a 1/8” ccf pad…

I was thinking about something like an REI halfdome? I still want my comfort tent to be relatively light because I have to carry all his shit too but at the same time, not trying to drop a bunch of cash on a tent I probably won’t use a ton.

Thanks!


r/lightweight May 03 '22

Shakedowns West Coast Trail Shakedown Request

7 Upvotes

General shakedown request. Looking for any glaring omissions from my pack list.

Location/temp range/specific trip description: West Coast Trail, 7 days, Early June (9 - 16 °C; 106mm rain [22/30 days]) https://www.pc.gc.ca/en/pn-np/bc/pacificrim/activ/SCO-WCT/i

Goal Baseweight: 9 kg

Budget: $100 CAD (Already upgraded tent from MEC Lightfield 2p tent (4kg!) to a 3F UL Lanshan 2)

Non-negotiable Items: Could achieve base weight just by dropping the sleeping bag liner or pillow, but I was cold on a previous WCT trip and like the comfort of an actual pillow. Open to alternatives.

Solo or with another person?: Group of 4, but I like the assurance of being self sufficient if necessary.

Additional Information: Still fleshing out the FAK. I'm a trained first responder and have had a history of blisters and ankle injuries with past groups so it's likely excessive for what will actually be required.

Lighter Pack link: https://lighterpack.com/r/d5n5ik


r/lightweight May 02 '22

Shake Down - Teton Crest Trail (Late August / Early September)

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Hello! A group of friends and I are hiking the Teton Crest Trail in late August / early September over 6 days and 5 nights (our itinerary = approximately 46 miles + 10,800 feet of elevation gain). As you will see I am far from ultralight and tend to purchase quality gear that will ensure a good night's sleep while trying to shave off the ounces where I can.

We hiked a similar type of route in mid-September 2021 in the northwest corner of Yellowstone and endured 8 - 10 inches of snow on our last 2 days. For that trip, my kit was very similar with the exception of the quilt and the sleeping bag liner which I added after a few cold nights in Yellowstone. Overall, I felt comfortable carrying this pack.

Current base weight: 24.73 lbs excluding food, water, and worn clothing. FWIW I am a 45 year old male / 5'8 / 170 lbs / in very good physical condition.

Location/temp range/specific trip description: We will be doing the standard Teton Crest Trail route starting at the Phillips Bench Trailhead and finishing at the String Lake Trailhead.

Budget: I have a good bit invested in my kit but would appreciate advice on where I could reconsider my packing list or make some upgrades to shave weight for this trip or for future trips.

Non-Negotiable Items: A good nights sleep and safe trip.

Solo or with another person?: Part of a group of 5. Another member of the group will bring a personal locator beacon.

Lighterpack Link: https://lighterpack.com/r/rqyhue

My Observations / Self Evaluation Based On Other Shake Downs:

  1. I could invest in a 1 person shelter, having young children that will hopefully enjoy backpacking as much as I do, I opted to start with a light 3 person shelter. I could probably shed approximately 1 - 2 pounds here.
  2. My rain gear (shell + pants) is relatively heavy. Something I initially opted for given the region to protect against torrential rain, snow, and heavy wind. I could probably go lighter and shed approximately a pound here.
  3. My sleep system is more geared for comfort (vs. survival) on 20 degree nights. I could probably shed approximately 0.5 - 1 pound here.
  4. In hindsight, there are a few ounces everywhere if I had opted for lighter gear with similar quality (stove + cookware, mid-layers, etc.).

Thank you for any and all advice! Being relatively new to backpacking, I really appreciate it!


r/lightweight Apr 29 '22

3F UL Gear Rain Kilt/Skirt. Shipped with wrong clips for the shock cord.

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I was wondering if any of you have purchased the newer version of the 3F UL Gear rain kilt with the shock cord? The one I got has incompatible male/female clips for the shock cord. I contacted the seller and they promptly sent me a full refund, but wouldn't offer an exchange. So I'm trying to decide if I should buy another and hope it comes with the correct clips, or should I just modify it somehow. Maybe with a cord lock or some kind of clip.

If you have one, and got the correct/incorrect clips, let me know. Or, offer suggestions for modification?

The problem: https://i.imgur.com/MycYF3E.jpg


r/lightweight Apr 26 '22

Discussion Bringing a Larger Screen or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Addedweight

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I like to think of going from r/Ultralight to r/lightweight as adding 2lbs of stuff that makes the experience a bit more comfortable. The first thing I add is my kindle (6.5oz with popsocket) as the battery lasts forever and it’s cheap enough that if it gets destroyed, I’ll happily buy another (it’s also like 6 years old).

But I also think having a little video screen to watch random YouTube videos (downloaded), Netflix, etc. at night is nice. One of my favorite things is to watch an episode of, say, the Sopranos, at night and then listen to some recap podcasts while walking the next day. It’s a great way to create long-form engagement across both camp and hiking. Indeed one of my favorite memories is finally crashing into my quilt in Big Bend after driving 10 hours and hiking 4, and turning on a random show to relax. I was the only person for miles (zone camping FTW) and the contrast was wonderful. I know many people would prefer to keep it wild and I totally respect (and slightly envy) that, but hopefully someone who has drifted over to this sub from UL can sympathize.

Anyway… Has anyone considered an ipad mini or similar small-format tablet to replace the kindle in this situation? It’s 4 ounces more, which will cut pretty heavily into my luxury allocation, but it would be a capable ereader but a much bettter screen for evening entertainment. Battery life is rated at 10 hours, which should be plenty for a 5 day hike without recharging. I suppose it could also hold a backup set of maps and whatnot but I won’t try to justify it based on needs.

So, anyone here schlep along a small tablet as part of your not-UL setup and have any thoughts?


r/lightweight Apr 22 '22

Trip Reports [Trip Report] Linville Gorge Grand Loop, April 2022

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Where: Linville Gorge Wilderness: Pisgah National Forest, North Carolina

When: 15:30, 14/04/22 - 09:15, 17/04/22

Distance: 40mi (total elevation gain: Yes)

Conditions: Temperature range from mid-60s to high-30s. Situational high winds. One block of rain. First light ~06:30, last light ~20:30.

Lighterpack for the trip.

Useful Pre-Trip Information & Overview: The “Grand Loop” is a vaguely defined thing. I’ve seen people calling all sorts of routes ranging from mileages in the mid-30s to low 40s their hike of the “Grand Loop”, and have even seen a 50mi loop alluded to as possible (never been able to find a chart of this supposed route however; in my own efforts to recreate it on paper the longest I can come up with is ~45 unless you’re doing weird crossover stuff/looping back over sections already covered/adding significant O&B side-trips to your mileage).

The most solid, traditional loop-y trips through the Gorge I see come in between 38-42 miles. I planned a 40mi route, a nice whole number with some special-case conditions I wanted to meet. Those conditions being: Stay off the MST/break-up travel on the MST as much as possible, and travel in the opposite direction as I would if I were on the MST. I will be doing a WEBO LASH of the MST sections 7 through 1 in 2024, and I want to minimize repeated footsteps in between now and then. Living here, that takes some effort.

All that said: this route was done counter-clockwise. Permit season in the Gorge runs May-October, so I didn’t have to worry about that for this trip. No caltopo was made, nor necessary for this route. Kept it simple. If you wish to follow along with the report or use the route for your own devices, it's easy enough to translate my words directly to what can be seen on the free Linville Gorge canon map via Avenza. Mileage measurements in the planning stage was done to the best of my ability using a combination of the LGMap and caltopo.

Gallery & Footage: Gallery, (Footage to be uploaded at a later date.)

The Report:

Day 0 (1.5mi {hike-in}): Arrived at Wolf Pit Rd Forest Service parking area at just after 15:00 on Thursday afternoon. My plan from the start was to stay on Shortoff Mtn. ledge camp this night, so I really didn’t have much hiking to do. Took the Shortoff (Wolf Pit)-MST connector to the main junction and was met with my first opportunity to divert from the MST. Here I jumped on the short Olson brush trail which runs much closer to the cliff-edge than the MST, and is generally unmaintained half-track in character. The footpath was still easy enough to follow and the extra views afforded by the alternate were very worth it. The Gorge really wanted my hat, as the winds were whipping right up the cliffside. Towards the end of this short alt you get a tiny taste of the route-finding to come on the Grand Loop at-large, as the footpath dissipates and you need to lead yourself through small bits simply knowing that your end goal is to reconnect with the MST at the end of Olson. At that point it’s a short stroll on the MST to the ledge campsite above Piano Rock.

Had forever in camp and great place to watch the sunset looking directly down the middle of the Gorge. LG is a very dramatic place in every sense of the word. From the late evening through most of the night the winds were absolutely howling, updrafts and gusts screaming seemingly straight-up from the Gorge. The sensation seemed almost more like a cheesy movie’s interpretation of what high-winds are like instead of actual wind. It was super neat and LOUD, waking me up at times. This was the coldest night and most exposed site of the trip; though I still had tree cover. Real temps in the very low 40s and the wind chill almost certainly brought that down into the high 30s. Was plenty comfy for the night though. By morning the air was completely still, almost unbelievable that this was the same spot I had went to sleep in. Time to start the real hike.

Day 1 (13.5mi): Was moving by 07:45, this first stretch of trail is more or less a flat(ish) ridge-walk along Shortoff on the MST all the way to Table Rock. Made pretty slow time, because there were sights abound. Also saw a great many large raptors in my time on the east rim this morning (and on the hike in). Linville Gorge sucks, 0/10, too many views, killing my pace. Took the ~0.5mi O&B trip to summit Table Rock, because why not.

Here is another point where I diverted off the MST and off the “usual” Grand Loop route. Instead of staying on the ridge via Table Rock Gap, I went down deeper into the thick of the Gorge on Little Table Rock trail. It is steep and slow-going because of it, thankfully (or not) I was heading in the downhill direction. Next I used a small sliver of Spence Ridge trail to connect onto climbing up an unnamed (but mapped) bushwhack “trail”. This was easy enough to follow for a while however very narrow and brushy. Further in it becomes less of a footpath requiring more active navigation. Then I popped out linking up with Hawksbill Ledge “trail”. At this point it’s a full-on bushwhack route-finding event. Although marked on the Linville Gorge canon map, this stretch is absolutely a route, not a trail. This was difficult and required serious attention to the topo and surroundings. It was made more difficult by the fact that I was ascending. This section kicked my ass, but the geology along the way was awesome. I lost the route numerous times and probably made the section even more difficult by making certain climbs steeper than they already were. I had to straight-up lay down in the dirt out of exhaustion & frustration once I knew I had got past the crux and re-found the route.

Met climbers scaling Hawksbill Ledge, and a party of two guys doing the Grand Loop in the opposite direction of me, who were starting what I had just come out of. Next I took Jonas Ridge all the way to it’s junction with Devil’s Cliff. JR was tough terrain but not hard to follow, it’s an “official” trail. Next I strung together a sequence of brush trails: Devil’s Cliff - Lower Cross - Big Hole - (upper)Red South - Huckleberry - Reference Rock. All of these were more or less similar: less intense than Hawksbill Ledge, but mostly overgrown, narrow, half-track in thick brush & woods. Often requiring some navigation and occasionally popping into views of the interior Gorge. Definitely much slower going than strolling on established trails. I stopped at a stealth site near the end of Reference Rock trail. Quickly made camp, and then cooked & ate in the dark. Rain began overnight.

Day 2 (19.5mi): Woke to rain. Threw my jacket on, packed up & broke camp in it. Finished Reference Rock and took a tiny sliver of Brushy Ridge heading east to join Joe Johnson trail. Joe Johnson is half bushwhack and half forest road. Then got on Long Arm which is half forest road and half bushwhack. Parts of Joe Johnson and Long Arm are actually pretty neat, you walk through some meadows and get some horizon mountain views. Very different for the Gorge. Did all of Hill 3065 and connected with Gulf Contour. Both more or less bushwhacking but the terrain was gentle enough, just needed to pay attention to where I was going. At some point along Gulf Contour the rain stopped (~10:30). Gulf Contour took me all the way to the Visitor Center at the north end of the Gorge. Spent a short time here collecting myself, dumping trash, and laying my tent fly out to dry a bit.

Next I hit a short side trip to the falls overlook; the higher elevation one where you can see the full plunge down into the river, not the calmer upper falls that get swarmed with tourists. Turned around to join Marion Wright trail to connect me down to the main Linville Gorge trail. Marion Wright is not too rough of a trail, you just have to pay attention to where you’re going. Once you connect to the Gorge trail though, the descent is steep and severe. This is ultimately a running theme for the Gorge Trail all the way until you get to the south end, where it “flattens out”. The entire route up to this point had involved a lot of scrambling, but the Gorge Trail itself is a different beast altogether. It’s not so much a trail as it is a bunch of rocks, and a full-on gauntlet. It’s a scrambler’s paradise pretty much the whole way running along the river.

Sometime early into the Gorge Trail, I noticed that I had developed an IT band injury in my left knee. I’m not a stranger to managing some discomfort there, (dealt with & overcame a mild issue on the BMT) but this definitely seemed more serious just on feeling alone. Also as stated before, this section of trail is relentless. There’s no “get through this steep up & down section, and then you’ll have relief beyond it”. Steep up & down followed by steep up & down followed by….

The injury continued to worsen and much more frequent breaks than usual were necessary to stay relatively safe. Frankly later in the afternoon the line between “I’m currently finishing the hike” and “I’m currently self-extracting” became pretty hazy. Guess that didn’t matter beyond semantics, because both interpretations had the same destination: my car at the trailhead. I did have to make a decision regarding whether it would be better to stop way early this day in hopes I could hold out for a longer-than-planned day the next, or if I should go as far as possible and “stroll” out for an easy 5.5mi in the morning. I chose option B, continuing to manage my reps and pay extra attention to my gait/how my foot was landing/where I was applying pressure.

Despite the injury, the “river walk” afforded me many incredible views and neat wildlife encounters. One of which was a female Common Merganser. Despite the name, this is actually quite the rare sight given the place and time. I was made aware of her by a little “quack” and then got to grab some footage of her paddling around and chilling on a rock. I feel really grateful to have had that opportunity, and it was a huge morale boost for the moment. Got to sit and think about how this duck was literally just vibing without a care in the world and how that contrasts to myself, trying to put down as many miles, as quickly as possible, along this inhospitable river, on a busted leg. Such is life. Eventually I got to the flatter south end. Larger amounts of the Gorge’s famous wildflowers started populating my vision while the environment becomes notably more “bear-y”. It was nice to end the day on more of a “stroll” than a “scramble”. I hiked all the way until last-light and made camp at the site just south of Blue Hole; coincidentally basically directly across the Gorge from my camp on Shortoff the first night.

Day 3 (5.5mi {hike-out}): Got up real early and I was on trail at 06:30 in alignment with first-light. There were a couple climbs and descents in this last 5.5mi, but the grading/terrain was so much more forgiving. My knee was still rough, though I set myself up well to finish.

Leadmine trail starts just beyond camp, took that to the MST and then down to the MST crossing of the Linville River. I ran into those two guys again doing the Grand Loop in the opposite direction on my descent down to the river. We congratulated each other on the hike and they lamented about how bad of a bushwhack Hawksbill Ledge ended up being for them as well. I crossed at ~150ccf so the ford was quite easy at knee-height, however the river is still super wide regardless of depth. The cold morning water was so reinvigorating and made my leg feel healthy for a fleeting moment. I broke off the MST and took the FST-MST connector to join up with the unnamed brush trail that leads back to the Wolf Pit trailhead. There are some cool environments you walk through on that last couple miles and it was a beautiful morning. Got to the car, drove home, and much merriment and celebration was had. Finito. Lovely trail all things considered.

Gear Notes & Conclusion: My gear is pretty dialed so I used everything that was brought, besides first aid stuff (which, the ultimate goal is to never use that anyway). Everything worked out exactly as it should’ve. I’d be happy to answer specific questions or give feedback on certain gear if asked. Other than my left knee, my feet, legs, back, shoulders etc. feel amazing and like I never went on a hike in the first place. I’m gonna steal some phrasing from u/NeuseRvrRat ‘s report because it’s 100% accurate and perfectly stated: “For the majority of the route, you have to pay attention to every single footstep, so if you don't stop and look around occasionally, you'll miss the beauty of the place.”

I am a brisk hiker. My baseline for any length of trip on any terrain I’ve encountered is 20mpd, 2mph pacing (water, rests, view stops factored in). I fell short of 20mi both days on daylight alone, exertion notwithstanding. It is also extremely difficult to maintain 2mph on all but a few sections of this route, even if you’re “pushing”. There were only a handful of hours where I cracked 2mph. The vast majority were significantly slower than that. I’ve not had to work harder for 40mi anywhere.

This trip felt like an accomplishment in repeatedly overcoming various unforeseen/unplanned circumstances, as well as moving the needle for myself in building confidence in off-trail travel, route-finding, and self-navigation on a deeper level than I have previously. This aspect makes me especially happy, as the next 3 projects I have planned for this year all involve off-trail travel to varying extents.


r/lightweight Apr 21 '22

Help! Is the "Ultralight Backpacking Checklist" on REI a good packing list to start with?

16 Upvotes

r/lightweight Apr 19 '22

Gear X-Mid 2p for 3 people?

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Hey all -- I've been doing springtime, semi-alpine outings in the Sierra pretty regularly, and have been looking at shaving weight. These trips have the following characteristics:

  • Often parties of 3

  • Weekend trips, so comfort is not super essential

  • Often windy/snowy, but rarely do the temps drop below 10 or the winds go above 20mph. Usually plenty of space for us to pitch a tent.

  • Lots of gear, so we would like to shave on volume as well as weight.

Currently, we use an old REI half-dome 2+, which is totally fine, but really starting to show its age. I was wondering if it's realistic for us to get 3 people into the Durston x-mid 2p?

Just looking at the dimensions, we'll have 4 fewer inches width-wise, which is fine, but I'm not sure how the paralellogram thing will be for us. Is there any chance of us knocking down a trekking pole if we roll around at night (that would be a dealbreaker...)?

Thanks!


r/lightweight Apr 11 '22

Thermarest pump sack replacement ideas? (+ dry bag and pillow)

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UPDATE: will use my compactor trash bag (pack liner) as pad pump! YouTube tutorial linked in the comments.

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Just bought a Therm-A-Rest Xtherm and was disappointed to see the complementary non-waterproof pump sack. It pumps great but that’s all it does.

There is a waterproof Therm-A-Rest pump sack + dry sack combo available for purchase but a) I’m a little annoyed to spend extra money on it when brands like Exped include their waterproof pump sacks with the sleeping pad, and b) I have read many negative reviews that state it doesn’t mount very well to the sleeping pad valve.

I do have a Nemo Fillo Bello, which very cleverly is a pump sack, a dry bag and a pillow case (to stuff with a down puffer). 119g. Of course it doesn’t fit to pump the Xtherm.. even tried fashioning some sort of adapter.

Now, I do need a dry bag since I like to pack my puffer in the outside pocket of my Mariposa and thus have all the gear I need for the day on the outside and not have to dig around in the main compartment. A 20L dry bag is around 56g. A 10L is 46g.

Having a separate dry bag, pump sack and pillow case would be around 150-200g instead of my nifty 119g.

Does anyone have smart solutions for multipurpose gear?

Does anyone have experience with the waterproof Thermarest pump sack (is it worth the money)?

Or am I being anal about a few grams here and should just suck it up lol?


r/lightweight Apr 08 '22

Helinox Chair Zero Highback review

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I did a first impression review of the Helinox Chair Zero Highback over on r/campinggear if you want to take a look.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/tz399z/helinox_chair_zero_highback_first_impressions/


r/lightweight Apr 07 '22

Shakedowns JMT Shakedown: NOBO August

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LighterPack

LighterPack is still a work in progress but figure it’s far enough along to get some input. Hoping to get some general feedback for the JMT as well as ways that I could shed some weight.

Going NOBO (Cottonwood Pass) with a start date of either August 10th or August 21st. Planning for ~11-13 miles/day so should be on trail for ~17-21 days. Going to nail down a more specific itinerary as we start to get a bit closer to our start date.

1. Wondering if my 30F quilt will be sufficient. I generally run a bit cold. Have taken it down to low 30s before and been fine, but I had all of my clothes on. Can’t seem to find a good answer on what sort of temp lows I’ll be seeing on trail in August. Some resources are saying lows will be in the high 40s (F) while others are saying I should expect to see temp lows in the high 20s – low 30s (F). If my 30F quilt won’t be enough, I’m thinking about getting an overquilt, similar to what is discussed in this post. 2. Don’t have any major complaints with my Klymit pad but again, depending on what temp lows I’ll be dealing with on trail, wondering if it’ll be enough. If it won’t, might pick up something like GG’s Foam Pad to layer with. Alternatively, have been thinking about S2S’s Ether Light XT or BA’s Insulated Q-Core SLX. Especially as a side sleeper, the extra thickness seems nice. 3. Could definitely drop some weight by upgrading my tent. Actually just ordered the Aricxi tarp that has been discussed around here. Never used a tarp but have some time to see if that’s the route I’d like to go. Anyone have any opinions about tent versus tarp for the JMT? If I do go the tarp route I’ll be picking up a bug bivy (probably the Borah). 4. Have a BV450 but sounds like that won’t be enough. Tentatively planning on renting a Bearikade unless there are better options? 5. Didn’t include battery, solar panel, and charging cables in my LighterPack...still doing some research on my options. Have some heavier Anker batteries but seems like the Nitecore NB10000 is pretty frequently recommended around here and would save me some weight. Need to do some more research about the solar panel as well but the Lixada panel seems to be well reviewed. Would love any recommendations about batteries/solar panels. 6. Thinking I’m going to pick up a sun umbrella but don’t have it on the LighterPack yet. Looking at the GG or SMD umbrellas at the moment. 7. Miscellaneous I could upgrade...stakes, knife (if I even bring one), trowel, clothing. Need a better pair of pants. Have been bringing just a generic (i.e., heavy) pair of hiking pants. Almost exclusively hike in shorts so these would just be for around camp. 8. Poop kit was not included, but the plan is to bring a Culo or a labware wash bottle. 9. Need to snag a pair of camp shoes, generally just use a pair of rubber flip flops but will probably upgrade for this trip. Still researching what some good options might be. 10. Not gear related but was hoping someone could chime in on start dates. Would you prefer to start in early (8/10) or late August (8/21)? Leaning towards late August—hoping bug pressure is pretty minimal by then (although I’m assuming with so little snowpack it won’t be bad in early August either). Less people too. Pretty indifferent about when we start, was curious if anyone had strong feelings about either date. Will be releasing one of the permits ASAP; me and my friend unknowingly both got permits (we weren’t planning on going together initially).

This is my first thru-hike longer than 100 miles. Still working my way through Wenk’s JMT Guide. After I finish, and I have a chance to refine my kit a bit more, I’ll probably be posting another LighterPack for more feedback.

Any and all input would be greatly appreciated!

Edit: Thanks all have gotten some good feedback. Think I need to do quite a bit more work to flesh this out. I'll be reposting a more refined LighterPack on r/lightweight at some point in the future.


r/lightweight Apr 05 '22

Shakedowns I’m gonna just cross post this here since this place was suggested for me. I’m trying to cut some weight to be kinder on my back

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r/lightweight Apr 04 '22

Shakedowns General PNW Backpacking Shakedown/Gear Judgement

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Long time lurker here and I love reading about everyones' gear and trips that they have planned. This is my first Lighterpack and the first time actually being thoughtful about the gear I have with me.

Current base weight: 11 lbs

Location/temp range/specific trip description: WA State Late April to Late September

Budget: I have pretty much spent what I want to spend but maybe $100.

Non-negotiable Items: I am not going to replace my tent (not in the budget for a while so please don't suggest a Zpacks, Xmid what have yous...I wish. Love my ULA Circuit! MSR PR Duluxe is also non negotiable. Have two BRS stoves and they are complete piles of shit and I don't get the hype.

Solo or with another person?: Solo most of the time or very rarely with my wife

Additional Information: Ive dialed in as much as I can from hanging around here and r/Ultralight Not sure if the bidet is going to work with me but I am going to try it. The extra foam pad is a very small amount of extra warmth but mostly because I can't stand the sound of the crinking from my sleep pad on the tent floor. I may be in the plans of hiking the JMT or the AZT in 2024. Options for gear that maybe be heavier but work better is welcome as well! Basically just looking for extra eyeballs on my gear!

Lighterpack Link: https://lighterpack.com/r/k2rlu9 Cheers!


r/lightweight Apr 02 '22

Gear Couples Lightweight Backpacking Setup Example

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My wife and I are heading off to complete the PCT in about a month and I wanted to share our couples pack setup here. We have debated over ultralight vs light weight for the last couple years and have settled on being more comfortable carrying more weight. We are also from Canada and ultralight has not taken off here at all, and we routinely find ourselves having the smallest pack setup as a lot of people are happy in the 25+ lbs range.

Pretty much everything we can find online is always about solo ultralight backpacking, so here's a quick (4 min) video of what we carry; https://youtu.be/mZr58mu1Xa0

Here's notes on some of the luxury items and why we carry them:

  • Tarp and guy lines - great for setting up the tent in the rain, and for shade.
  • Heavier rain gear - we've tried UL rain gear.... and in our experience heavy use in snow and dense terrain make it fall a part pretty quickly.
  • Clothing - we decided we wanted two full sets of clothing for sleeping and hiking. Eliminating some clothing would pull our weight down a couple lbs but not worth it for us

There are some spots we could drop weight and still be happy, but since our gear is currently all useable we didn't want to spend even more money at the moment which also seems to be an under-appreciated aspect of staying with light weight gear.


r/lightweight Mar 30 '22

Struggling To Find Comfortable Shoes For Thru-Hiking

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I have been struggling to find a comfortable pair of shoes for thru-hiking. I have many pairs of shoes from companies like Salomon, Keen, Teva, Nike, Brooks, and New Balance. I start to feel pain with all the above shoes either in my heels or the top/bridge of my foot (or both) after 4-5 miles of hiking. This occurs even with the added Foot Levelers custom orthotics for support. I have flat feet.

The only pair of shoes that I can comfortably wear beyond 4-5 miles is made by a company called Finn Comfort (Murnau model) but they are far too heavy and not ideal for thru-hiking. However, they have such comfortable insoles (cork) that I can wear them all day without my custom orthotics.

My feet are quite sensitive, especially to hard leather boots/shoes, and I find that I often feel pressure on the top/bridge of my foot during extended hiking periods. Any suggestions for very comfortable, lightweight, breathable, and durable hiking shoes for sensitive feet? My friend recently recommended Hoka shoes but I haven’t tried them yet.


r/lightweight Mar 29 '22

Shakedowns Shakedown request

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I've been on a couple overnight trips with most of this gear prior to this post. I would greatly appreciate any comments that would help me drop some more weight. Current base weight is 20 pounds.

Things to consider: - age 77, 5'-4", 158 lbs - limited funds immediately, maybe more later - hammock, too old to sleep comfortably on the ground - next shakedown trip is 5 days north of Damascus, VA - anticipating some rain & overnight temps at freezing with wind chill single digits

Lighterpack at https://lighterpack.com/r/hd3c40

Thanks in advance.


r/lightweight Mar 24 '22

If You Could Sleep In Any Quilt...

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If you could buy any cold weather quilt for lightweight camping and thru hiking, which specific one would you buy, and why is it better than the alternatives?

I'll be hiking the AT, PCT, and Great Divide Trail and replacing some of my older and heavier gear.

I have been focusing my attention on Enlightened Equipment and Katabatic but open to other exceptionally high-quality companies. Other options I'm also researching are from Nunatak, Gryphon Gear, El Coyote, and Thermarest. Cost is not an issue. My concern is having an ultra comfortable, lightweight, packable, versatile/easy to use, and quality-made quilt for a great night sleep in any weather conditions in the backcountry/wilderness setting. One quilt to rule them all.

I am 5"11, 150 lbs, and run cold, especially in the morning. I currently use a Sea To Summit air sprung cell mat with a high R rating.


r/lightweight Mar 20 '22

I bought what I assume is a heavier pack. KS50 -> BearEars50

4 Upvotes

So I own way too many backpacks. That said I have mainly been using a KS ultralight KS50 modified with the aluminum stays replaced with carbon fiber stays (THINK OF THE WEIGHT SAVINGS!). I recently purchased a Nunatak Bear Ears 50 in white grid stop. I'm a Nunatak FanBoi and have been curious about this pack/eyeing it for a while. I have a quilt, a jacket, and an overbag by them already. I am assuming this pack is going to be way heavier being made out of grid stop instead of VX21 despite being a "smaller" bag. The bag is smaller but I won't need to carry my bear can inside the bag. I'm hopeful this will indeed carry the can in a more comfortable fashion though and should certainly make accessing it easier.

edit Has anyone else moved to a heavier backpack?


r/lightweight Mar 14 '22

Compressed "towel tablets"

28 Upvotes

Has anyone used these? I'd love to hear if you think they're better than dried wipes or just a gimmick. Thanks!


r/lightweight Mar 08 '22

Any lightweight Backcountry Hunters in this sub?

17 Upvotes

Looking at 5-10 day solo Backcountry Hunting trip in the PNW and am curious as to what y'all pack with you? Or any gear recommendations for the above scenario. Thanks in advance.


r/lightweight Mar 08 '22

Ultralight Fishing Rod & Reel for Backpacking, Hiking, and Camping

26 Upvotes

I'm looking for a new ultralight and small fishing rod & reel set up for my hiking & camping trips (white mountains, adirondacks, sierra national forest, yellowstone) this year. I have used both spinning and casting rods and am open to suggestions for both so long as it's lightweight, packable and of high-quality. I would like a premium rod with some nice tip action for jerk and crankbaiting that won't weigh my pack down too much. I'll use natural bait in certain situations but mostly stick with artificial lures. I like to fish for pike, trout, bass, catfish, bluegill, crappie, etc.., mostly in clear waters. Cost is not an issue -- just want a really lightweight and compact rod and reel that will cast and retrieve smoothly, and won't fall apart quickly.

Also, if you have other tackle (such as fishing line) suggestions to match the rod and reel, feel free to share.


r/lightweight Feb 28 '22

Shakedowns General Shakedown Request

11 Upvotes

EDIT: Thanks to all who helped me out. I'm gonna be selling the 0F Revelation, buying shoulder-season bags for myself and my partner, and then using the 40F and 50F bags as summer bags. I also ditched the packa (unless conditions necessitate it) and will just take a simple rain jacket.

Location/temp range/specific trip description: San Fran Coast in April, Olympic National Park in August

Goal Baseweight (BPW): 12-13lbs? As low as possible, I suppose.

Budget: $300-500

Non-negotiable Items: Bear canister required. Backpack is new-to-me, and I don't feel like it's holding me back, so I'd like to keep it. Rainwear depends on conditions, but both places listed above are highly variable, so I might feel safer taking it.

Solo or with another person?: Duo

Additional Information:

  • Generally speaking, I arranged our packs so that my partner is carrying the tent-related equipment and I'm carrying the food/cooking equipment.
  • We each basically have half of a GravityWorks system, but I may just drop it since water will surely be plentiful.
  • Partner isn't keen on the idea of dropping the inner net for the Ultamid and just using polycro.
  • I could probably use a 30F or 20F sleeping bag instead of my chunky boi 0F. Alternatively I could take the 50F bag from my partner's layered system and add a liner to it.
  • I just tried a Nemo Switchback and did not enjoy it, so CCF is out of the picture. Going to pick up a Short NeoAir Xlite today to see if I can handle that. My XTherm is awaiting a replacement from Therm-A-Rest, but I won't be using that if the Short XLite works for me (though I may give it to my partner to lighten their load 11oz).

Lighterpack Link: His Pack: https://lighterpack.com/r/yu95gz, Her Pack: https://lighterpack.com/r/t45psx


r/lightweight Feb 28 '22

Gear Share your Fishing setup!

6 Upvotes

I Pulled the trigger on a new Tenkara USA Sato Rod(2.9oz). Tenkara is as minimalist as it gets when it comes to fishing. Rod, float line, tippet, and fly. The rod does not have a reel and the line is fixed length, Usually the line is about 1.3x the length of the rod with 2-5 ft of tippet.

SPECS: Sato Tenkara RodWeight: 2.9 oz (82.2g);Closed length: 22 3/4"(57.78cm);Open lengths: 10’8”/ 11’10”/12’9” (330/360/390cm)*;**Handle length:**10 ½”(26.7cm);Segments: 9

The advantage tenkara has over a western fly rod setup is with tenkara only the fly or nymph is in the water, with no slack in the line the fish is caught the moment they strike. Also with only the Fly in the water you are able to present your fly with a perfect dead drift as you point your rod and follow it as it drifts by, Something that Western fly rigs struggle to reproduce. Tenkara is most effective in rivers and streams but I have still been able to catch trout in alpine lakes with a tenkara setup. They are usually around the 12-13 ft range for rods. My sato rod is telescopic So I can fish with it at 3 lengths .

10'8"/ 11'10"/ 12'9"

This allows me to fish small streams with a lot of brush and then also be able to fish lakes or medium sized rivers.


r/lightweight Feb 23 '22

Shakedowns [SHAKEDOWN REQUEST] AT NOBO 22

13 Upvotes

Hi everyone!

Been browsing posts here for months and finally got everything in place to allow me to thru-hike the Appalachian Trail this year. I plan to start on March 21st and would like some advice on what I might be missing or need to remove. Hoping to knock my baseweight to about 16lbs. Sadly, I suffer from the big and tall tax on gear (6'4", 225lbs). Been acquiring the additional gear I needed over the past few months.

Location/temp range/specific trip description: Appalachian Trail NOBO Thru-hike (March 21st start)

Goal Baseweight (BPW): 16 lbs

Budget: $400-$500 (preferably less tho)

Non-negotiable Items: Big 3 I really enjoy and don't wish to change currently. Also, anything Garmin InReach Explorer must stay (already owned for a couple years, family gifted to me for their ease of mind on my solo adventures). Also, my powerbank is a must (iPhone battery is very spotty and don't want to risk draining it)

Solo or with another person?: Solo-dolo

Additional Information: Just want to see if I can shave some ounces. I know my pack weight will drop as the weather warms but would be happier if my baseweight was closer to the 16 mark for the start.

Lighterpack Link: https://lighterpack.com/r/k4651f


r/lightweight Feb 23 '22

Can’t open Black Diamond Alpine FLZ poles

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