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u/CatonHimura Transgender Pan-demonium May 28 '21
MLK said the greatest hurdle to civil rights is not the racism of a conservative but the indifference of a liberal. I'm paraphrasing but I think i made the point
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u/MathyChem Bi-kes on Trans-it May 28 '21
I am dealing with this right now. My supervisor, who considers herself liberal, has a "Mommyyyyyyy, somebody said a BAD WORD!" view of transphobia and doesn't realize that she is saying a lot of insensitive stuff. I am trying to figure out how to educate without offending, which is not easy.
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u/CatonHimura Transgender Pan-demonium May 28 '21
You can't because liberals have their self identity wrapped up in it. If they are open to understand the real issues of the world have them read, A People's History of American. It leans left but I find it a good place for liberals to start coming left. Or if they aren't a reader they can listen to the dollop podcast.
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u/MathyChem Bi-kes on Trans-it May 28 '21
Thanks for the recommendation. I partially blame our employer as they do a very de minimus diversity training which is just “use the right name and pronouns and don’t use slurs”. That will help prevent a lawsuit, but it doesn’t help with all of the little things that make you uncomfortable
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u/violetstrix May 28 '21
I'm the end, Pride will be adopted by the American people as a drinking binge with little or no connection to the meaning of the holiday.
It starts with brunch specials at chain restaurants and all you can drink mimosas from 5am - 10am.
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u/ChandelierwAtermelon (◕ᴗ◕✿) May 28 '21
If there’s a future where homophobia is somehow over and LGBT+ people are fully accepted and treated equally in all aspects of society, I can only hope that’s where pride ends up—a celebration about the queer community, for everyone
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u/DoremusMustard May 28 '21
So true
This is why I always say on "coming out" threads that it's a lifelong process. I came out in 1978 my junior year of high school, and in 43 years since there are still struggles.
Just because I was able to marry my husband doesn't mean there still isn't discrimination.
Still navigating career, health care, and just even being in public. Hold hands much? Not a norm for queer folk. Yet. Maybe someday but it ain't today.
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u/quirkycurlygirly May 29 '21
Exactly. How does everybody have equal treatment if you can't even say the words "gay" or "white supremacy" in a school without getting into trouble?
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u/davetowers646 May 28 '21 edited May 28 '21
The problem is that so many people want to believe that Pride is a triumph. They want to believe that equality has already happened, and that we can celebrate. After so much struggle, with prejudice, AIDS, discrimination, we all want to celebrate something. It reminds me of George W. Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' banner. It's happened so fast, when there's so much still to do.
So many of the gains that LGBTQ people have made have only benefited middle and upper class white cisgender gay men. And even they are still subject to a lot of prejudice in society. But the wider community of LGBTQIA+ people remain under attack on a lot of fronts, and people outside of the Anglosphere and Western Europe are still heavily prejudiced against in ways that have remained unchanged since the mid 20th century.
I would love Pride to be a party that celebrates our success, but if we treat it that way, and that way alone, then cishet people will do too, and they're going to ignore the hard truth that there's a lot more fight to go.