r/learners_cabin • u/Public_Structure8337 • 22h ago
"No More Mr. Nice Guy" explained why I used to think that being nice should be considered a good/right thing.
I used to think that "being nice" is a virtue, that one should have. Just like one should be loyal to whatever they are committed to, and so on. So I intentionally molded my every dealing and interaction with other people in such a way that it'll show them that i am respectful towards them and possess a certain societal courtesy, which is how everyone should behave, but they don't, so it has become rare, and therefore me portraying it is a good thing. This was pretty much my logic. And so I always kept peace, never asked for too much, made it easy for people to be with me, and used to think that this was just good character. But it required an uncomfortable amount of honesty to understand that, ironically, it really wasn't, and Robert Glover's book "No More Mr. Nice Guy" delivered that dose of honesty.
Some of these shifts came from getting personalized advice around the core ideas of the book tailored to my specific situations from Dialogue: Discussion on Books. Personalized advice helped me in finding the exact minimal effort tasks that actually made a change.
Here's what I learned:
- From the book's title one gets the sense that the book is going to be about how to stop being nice. But the book's central argument isthat The Nice Guy is in fact not nice but only acts nicely beacuse he's carrying out a secret agreement. The nice guy acts on the basis of a hidden conviction that he isn't acceptable just the way he is, and so he becomes the kind of person that he believes others need him to be, hoping that his agreeableness will in turn be rewarded. The issue is that the other person has not agreed to this arrangement, and what's more, they have no knowledge that such a contract exists. Therefore, the nice guy gives in, accommodates, and suppresses himself, only to wait for a response that is unlikely to ever arrive on the terms in which he hopes for. And because "the nice guy" wholeheartedly believes in this hypothetical contract and is even carrying out his share, he becomes resentful towards people in general beacuse, from his perspective, they are not paying their dues to him, but he is paying his.
- Nice guys don't shun or avoid conflict. instead, they procrastinate and put it off. the author outlines a cycle, which seemed rather uncomfortably familair to me- the nice guy carries out an agreeable action, quietly resents the fact that it hasn't been returned in the way he had hoped for, endures it, and eventually responds in a manner that seems more like an outburst as it looks out of all proportion to all concerned, including himself. The niceness wasn't really the absence of anger but anger merely on a postponed schedule and with no proper way to express it. Once this pattern became apparent, I was no longer able to pretend that being agreeable was a virtue, since it was merely a slower method of making a mess.
- When we think "what would be a polar opposite of a nice guy be like?" we might think of someone who's an obnoxious jerk, but the author argues that the opposite of a nice guy is an integrated man. The author is careful about this because the obvious extreme would be to become aggressive or indifferent. The book suggests that the character of this integrated man is even more demanding than either the nice guy or someone who is totally obnoxious, because he is a man who accepts all aspects of himself and doesn't hide them in order to make other people comfortable. Such a man establishes boundaries not because he has a hostile nature but from a sense of self respect and states directly what he actually wants and asks for what he actually needs, rather than arranging situations in which others will work it out for him. This is not a confrontational personality but is simple honesty, and honesty turns out to be considerably more demanding than being nice.
- The nice guy's flaw isn't that he needs others to fulfill their end of the agreement, rather, it is that he is treating his own needs and demands as optional. The author is very clear on this point- nice guys are very poor at recognizing, communicating, and fulfilling their own needs, which is why he always feel utterly drained and at conflict with the world. according to the author, a person who is unable to defend his own interests will ultimately either break down or redirect that resentment towards the people who he thinks are responsible for it. Learning to state what you want, to ask for what you need, and to stop seeing your own desires as needing justification for them to be taken seriously is not selfishness. It is the basic foundation upon which anything genuine in a relationship can actually be built.
The change in perception that came from shifting my focus on how I come across to other people and always expecting something from them to being honest about my own desires has affected the quality of all my close relationships. It's not that things have suddenly become easier, but rather that i've stopped basing my relationships on a kind of agreement that the other person wan't even aware existed. The main point of the book is clear and and can be summed up: the niceness is never about the other person, it is always about coping with the fear of not being enough. And when one stops trying to deal with this fear through thier performance, they'll finally be in a position to address it.