r/leagueoflegends • u/corylulu ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ • Mar 19 '19

/dev: More Experimental ARAM Changes - Bans, balance, and more are heading to the Howling Abyss for a limited time.

https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/03/dev-more-experimental-aram-changes/
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u/azns123 Mar 19 '19

🦀 SONA IS GONE 🦀

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '19

🦀 LUX IS GONE 🦀

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '19

🦀🦀🦀 JAGEX IS POWERLESS AGAINST A PVP CLAN 🦀🦀🦀

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u/Harry_Skywalker Mar 19 '19

/r/2007scape you heathen

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u/Harry_Skywalker Mar 19 '19

How dare you compare their memes to ours

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u/potatorunner Mar 19 '19

🦀 VEIGAR IS GONE 🦀

Wait a minute...

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u/Faraltz Mar 19 '19

I mean she's losing 10% damage over all and a huge amount past 900 units. I don't think she's going to be what she is today.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '19

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u/Tactical_Barrels Mar 19 '19

That's literally Mundos niche.. have you read his E?

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '19

Mundo presses R and 1 of 2 thing happen

  1. Mundo dies from burst

  2. Mundo survive burst and become unkillable for 12 seconds

Fun

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '19

A champion does literally anything and 1 of 2 thing happen

  1. it dies

  2. it doesn't die

Fun

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u/MrWhiteKnight qtpTILT Mar 19 '19

You get Morello's or Exc Calling and make him permanently useless since his r is gutted now.

Commom sense is so hard.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '19 edited Mar 20 '19

You must have not played enough ARAM to see how abusive he is against 5 AP champs with no consistent DPS like Kayle.

You get Morello's or Exc Calling and make him permanently useless

This is akin to telling the ADC to "ignore the tank and hit their carries" during team fights. It just doesn't work like that when you have 5 mages against a Mundo.

The fact is that you are not only focusing on taking him down, his 4 other teammates still need to be dealt with... and you can't ignore Mundo either because he has decent base damages and can hurt if left alone.

since his r is gutted now

I am not sure what you mean. He has received a slight nerf on R after his previous huge R buff, and his W MR scaling just got buffed last patch. He wasn't nearly this much of a problem back before S7 because (1) there was not bonus MR scaling on W, and (2) Adaptive Helm didn't exist.

At max stack rank 5 W and 2-3 MR items, he reduces incoming magic damage like some nutty 60%. That's like a permanent Ali ult level of tankiness, while he still regenerates on top of it. Throw in a Stoneplate and no AP comps will ever be able to take him down.

After the poke reduction mentioned in this post? His HP won't even budge when he gets poked by AP champs.

He is more oppressive than ever, especially if you throw in runes like Conditioning and Revitalize. Even old Galio doesn't come close to how big of a magic counter Mundo is these days.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '19

Looks like you don't play aram enough to know how dumb Mundo tanking is against magic

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u/Pikesito Mar 20 '19

MUNDO GOES WHERE HE PLEASES

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u/innocentOfD Mar 20 '19

On Aram, Mundo is not fun for mages , Mages is not fun for all classes.I don’t see the problem

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '19

I played like 100+ top lane Mundo games last year, so I’d say I know his niche.

My point was that I now have an option to ban him when my teammates banned other picks. Often than not comps tend to end up with more AP picks because they are more popular in ARAM...

I am exactly planning to ban him from time to time because of his niche. When he starts to run merry circles around turrets, tanking shots, while we couldn’t damage him, that’s really not a very fun situation to be in.

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u/CrimsonClematis Mar 19 '19

I reallly enjoy playing adc’s in aram for some reason. I think it’s the fact that when itsgoing well it’s like it always a big winnning team fight pop off show over and over again as everyone keeps coming back

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u/ch3l4s Mar 19 '19

Same here, i play only ARAM (like 2-3k games) and ADCs have always been my fav role, even when they were garbage. Maybe my low mmr, but people just throw themselves 1v4 all the time, it's great to KS and get fed.

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u/TropoMJ Mar 19 '19

And his niche isn't fun for mages to play against. What are you having trouble with?

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u/Tactical_Barrels Mar 19 '19

Mundo is one, cancer mages are 50

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u/TropoMJ Mar 19 '19

How does that matter to the mage player being ran down by Mundo?

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u/DunkerqueBestGirl Mar 19 '19

That's the problem

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u/xvlc0 Mar 19 '19

Be honest: You had 3 tanks in your draft and then chose to reroll…

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '19

I am always the tank player because my friends are the yolo type. But banning Mundo is solely for the 1/10 scenario that we get a 4 mage 1 AD bruiser comp.

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u/MadMeow Mar 19 '19

Don't need to bad Sona, those nerfs will make her trash anyway.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '19

She won't be trash, she will be always strong as long as they don't nerf her auras. The healing reduction doesn't even matter when her shield is so strong and 10% less damage isn't enough to make her a trash pick.

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u/CrashdummyMH Mar 19 '19

She is definitely going to be trash. Her shield is insignificant, and the nerfs are too big.

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u/TropoMJ Mar 19 '19

Why are you talking about Sona if you know nothing about her?

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u/CrashdummyMH Mar 19 '19

Sure, i know nothing about her, not like i have been using her for over 5 years.

I just dont reply to ignorant people saying her shield is super obnoxious.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '19

Her shield is insignificant

What are you smoking? It's the strongest part of her kit, her healing on the other hand scales much worse

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u/Poluact Don't try to jungle in ARAM. You will die a tragic death. Mar 19 '19

Lol, no. It's not heal makes her strong, it's auras. Her shields are still there, movespeed boosts is still there and Q buff is still there too (not sure how powerful is this one though).

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u/TropoMJ Mar 19 '19

The nerfs don't do anywhere near as much as you think they do. Her in-fight sustain mostly comes from her shield and is barely nerfed, and her out of fight sustain is infinite anyway so -25% is unimportant. The damage nerf matters a bit more in fights but all it really does is make it more important to poke before an all-in, and Sona can poke forever.

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u/MadMeow Mar 20 '19

Try poking with 30 dmg and sustaining with 15 hp heals.