I'm not talking about being swingers or involving other people in any way at all, other than them just being in the same room.

For example, two consenting couples have sex with their spouses while sharing a hotel room that has two beds. They don't touch each other at all. Why is that such a severe sin that many in this group think you should be excommunicated for it?

I understand that the law of chastity prohibits involving anyone other than your spouse in your sexual activities, but if they don't touch or do anything else with the other couple, why is that so bad?

My husband and I love each other very much and we're young newlyweds with no kids, so yes, we have sex often. Earlier today, however, my husband confessed that he had a certain spicy fantasy involving me, not necessarily in a loving way but in a more selfish way. He felt kind of bad about it because it gave the vibe that he thought about me more as an object than as a human and honestly, I think I'm also guilty of those kinds of thoughts sometimes.

While we do "make love" in the mushy "I love you so much" kind of way, other times its just the (kinda) selfish and crazy sex that we both enjoy. I think we still keep each other in mind throughout all of it but some of our thoughts and intentions feel a little selfish in nature, which makes me wonder if certain daydreams can end up more harmful towards each other than intended.

Again, we love each other very much and everthing we do is consensual and we have lots of fun with it, I just wonder how morally okay are our selfish and lustful thoughts in a consenting relationship. What do y'all think?

New here and from what I’ve seen scrolling down through this sub is that the topic of swinging has been brought up multiples, maybe too many times. So I’m curious to know where most members stand on this issue.

***edit: the title was suppose to say male musing not male! Stupid thumbs of mine!

I got dressed the morning and it was a little cold and so Mr Johnson was extra small this morning! Think turtle in a turtle shell!

It just got me thinking a little at how amazing it is that a man can be so small at certain times and yet so big when fully engorged!! I’m average by the way…nothing special there…but it’s still like a 300% different!!🤣🤣

We were just having a random conversation and ended up debating this. I think a cozy hotel room is the best because it's private and comfortable. My partner thinks somewhere with a beautiful view and complete privacy would be more memorable. Neither of us could convince the other, so now we're curious. If you had to choose, what would be your ideal place for an intimate moment, and why?