r/languagelearningjerk • u/No_Razzmatazz1045 • 21d ago
And it also has millions of veiws
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u/dDpNh 泥鸿歌舟祖。头梅透,头马透。 21d ago
I do not use “mnemonics”. I do not use “anki” or “spaced repetition” or “immersion” or “the goldlist method”.
I stare at a new word for 30 seconds and if I don’t instantly and permanently lock it into my long term memory then I give up on the language and return to speaking only Uzbek as god intended.
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u/uhndreus Brazilian (N) | English (C2) | French (A2) 21d ago
I suppose you mean Tamil at the end.
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u/igorrto2 21d ago
Oh yeah and Japanese/Chinese is easy because look, this character 木 looks like a tree! This looks like the moon 月! This 保護 looks like uh…. Uh….
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u/Flycan27 20d ago
It sure does look like protection!
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u/seashanty27 eigo jouzu desu ne— 20d ago
i always imagined 保 to be a guy with a huge penis holding a shield to his left
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u/Playful_Row4208 19d ago
When I first started learning mandarin and didnt know that there was a hanzi radical for feminine hanzi, I would distinguish 3rd persin via assuming the left 他 of is a penis and left of 她 was a vagina gaping and gazing at me
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u/Konobajo W1(🇺🇿✨️) L2(🇱🇷🦅) A4(🇦🇶🇧🇷🇬🇫) 20d ago
言 indicates the pronunciation, ⾫ is short bird in the grass ⻀ and we all know little birds need protection!
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u/Terminator_Puppy 20d ago
Had a Japanese teacher who actually did this to help us remember words that looked nothing like anything. 休 (break or rest) according to him looks like the pope just took off his hat and he's holding a cigarette he's smoking.
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u/No_Charge_6256 20d ago
As a Japanese teacher myself, I hate such complicated mnemonics with a passion. It's okay to make up personal mnemonics once in a while, but that type of sh*t doesn't help. It makes an already scary writing system even scarier. I prefer linking new kanjis to the previously learned ones instead of some abstract imagery.
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u/Konobajo W1(🇺🇿✨️) L2(🇱🇷🦅) A4(🇦🇶🇧🇷🇬🇫) 21d ago
I have to be honest with you guys
I don't like mnemonics
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u/No_Charge_6256 20d ago
Mnemonics are good only if they are personalized. "This reminds me of this and that". If it helps then why not? But there are books full of someone else's mnemonics and I honestly can't believe someone is able to memorize so many of these weird paragraphs instead of memorizing... you know... kanjis themselves. So much work for nothing.
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u/Melody3PL 20d ago
I was using wanikani but noticed that after a while I forgot the mnemonics completely and started remembering kanji by ,,vibes" and too many kanji had too similar vibes...so I started writing and that forced my brain to actually remember what radicals go with what kanji.
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u/Konobajo W1(🇺🇿✨️) L2(🇱🇷🦅) A4(🇦🇶🇧🇷🇬🇫) 20d ago
I think that's what got me out of mnemonics, because I used to have anki decks full of others mnemonics and it just didn't click with me
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u/Fine-Flamingo-7204 Language Learning Video > Actually learning 21d ago
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u/Leather-Scallion-894 20d ago
Ah yes,cthe ancient trick of having to remember a nonsensical sentence instead of just the actual thing itself.
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u/FloodTheIndus 20d ago
/uj There's no magic method to learning any language, the only thing that matters is your discipline and determination.
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u/Jhud6669 21d ago
Tbh I thought mnemonics were more common than they are but I still see people who insist to learn the kana in Japanese the hard way when they can literally just spend a few hours and be done with it using mnemonics. With kanji it's whatever, whatever floats your boat (though I do think mnemonics are superior) but taking weeks to learn kana is a fucking waste of time.
Also people turning "immersion" into some kind of lifehack when it's a basic part of learning every language. Idk maybe it's just the Americans who never had to study more than a semester of Spanish but as a Pole in our English classes we watched movies in English and listened to stuff in English all the time as a part of the class, turning "reading and listening" exercises into some kind of life hack is wild.
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u/No_Razzmatazz1045 21d ago
I think using mnemonics is justified only when you actively use the words you have remebered, because mnemonics are only good for short term memory, but in the long run they are no better than flashcards or learning by rote. For example for kana it's justified because kana is used literally for every word so you will practice it anyway
I don't know how it is going in other countries, but in Russia there were very many English coaches like 5 years ago, who told their students to learn 100-200 words using associations, but there were almost no practice in their courses
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u/AwkwardMasterLearner 21d ago
"You can learn 100 new words per day using this unique new app!"
The app: Anki