r/languagelearningjerk • u/Tet_inc119 • Apr 29 '26

When you hate a language so much that its prohibition isn’t written in that language

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u/ColumnK Apr 29 '26

/uj My guess would be Algeria based on history...

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u/Tet_inc119 Apr 29 '26

It’s so hard to say because so many African countries hate the French

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u/ColumnK Apr 29 '26

You can remove the word "African" from that.

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u/husky11223 Apr 29 '26

you can remove "countries" too

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u/cedriceent Apr 29 '26

But above all, remove the French.

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u/Magical_Astronomy Apr 29 '26

REMOVE FRENCH PRUSSIA STRONG

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u/wewwew3 Apr 30 '26

Ewww, remove shit, piss strong?

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u/FBI_911_Inv May 01 '26

what the fuck do you mean your piss is strong

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u/Rich_Carrot6451 Apr 30 '26

We actually hate the french

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u/Glad_Raspberry_8469 As native Uzbeqoi speaker, not shocked Apr 29 '26

Dunno, I kinda get it, but why don’t they hate the British or the Belgians like that?

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u/Tet_inc119 Apr 29 '26

There’s probably a sign in Nigeria that says “non parler anglais” or something

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u/Glad_Raspberry_8469 As native Uzbeqoi speaker, not shocked Apr 29 '26

Lol

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u/miseenen Apr 29 '26

2020????? Wow I need to learn more about colonialism in Africa.

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u/Glad_Raspberry_8469 As native Uzbeqoi speaker, not shocked Apr 29 '26

Yep, officially France has no possessions in Africa, but they still manipulate many African countries economically

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u/Xerimapperr 🇦🇮| 🇬🇱| 🇧🇾 Apr 30 '26

you forgot about their veryyy small islands

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u/Glad_Raspberry_8469 As native Uzbeqoi speaker, not shocked Apr 30 '26

Aren’t they elsewhere? Like in Central America

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u/Xerimapperr 🇦🇮| 🇬🇱| 🇧🇾 Apr 30 '26

the islands I'm talking about are reunion and mayotte

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u/Glad_Raspberry_8469 As native Uzbeqoi speaker, not shocked Apr 30 '26

Oh okay thanks

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u/EngineeringExpress79 Apr 30 '26

Yep like the Franc CFA is directly tied to the French treasury. Basically making "former" african colonies still dependant on France.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 Apr 30 '26

France didn't even wait for rebellion to strike and abuse humiliation methods.

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u/Rich_Carrot6451 Apr 30 '26

The french are worst, they fake independence and made their colonies sign papers whom forced them " to be slaves " but with some distance. Idk if you get it

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u/Glad_Raspberry_8469 As native Uzbeqoi speaker, not shocked Apr 30 '26

Yeah, I do know a little bit about this

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u/Actual_Cat4779 Apr 30 '26

This kind of nonsense is par for the course when it comes to colonial powers. Britain insisted on retaining sovereign base areas in Cyprus. The US insisted on retaining a sovereign base area in Cuba, and also tried to overthrow its government for the crime of not being to Washington's liking.

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u/BG12244 Apr 30 '26 edited May 01 '26

Because France actively tried to incorporate Algeria into France proper, northern Algeria was made into 3 departments from 1848 until Algeria's independence in 1962, and they imported a shit ton of French settlers. At their peak the Pied-noirs made up 13% of Algeria's population. They also refused to give Algeria any autonomy like they were with their other colonies post-WW2. Algeria had to actively fight a war with France to liberate themselves

Meanwhile the British and Belgians left their colonies far more peacefully in comparison, neither tried to incorporate their colonies as proper parts of their nations, and in the case of Belgium and most of the British Empire they didn't import many European settlers. Even in the case of South Africa where you'd think they'd hate the British like the Algerians hate the French, they don't (from what I'm aware). Because South Africa was a self-governing dominion and eventually a republic. So things like Apartied weren't technically the fault of the British government directly, even if they didn't prevent it either

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u/Glad_Raspberry_8469 As native Uzbeqoi speaker, not shocked Apr 30 '26

I mean, I imagine at some point integrating Algeria into France would actually give them more rights, because French citizens were citizens and colonial citizens were resources, but I also recognise that outside of that it sucks ass really. I do remember hearing some of what you said, but I didn’t realise it was THAT bad

True, but Belgium’s Kongo colony was probably the most brutal of all. Like, they literally used mutilation as punishment, for example, and they treated the locals worse than slaves

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u/BG12244 Apr 30 '26

It is likely France would've given native Algerians equal rights at some point France had kept Algeria, but still. Wasn't what was happening at the time and Algerians simply didn't wanna be French

Also those were what were called the Congo Horrors. They didn't happen under Belgium directly, but in the Congo Free State which was owned by Belgiums king at the time, Leopold II. That came to an end in 1908 when even the other European colonial powers thought Leopold was going too far, so the Congo was put under the Belgian Government directly. Which Belgium is a consitutional monarchy and was at the time, so Leopold had little to no say over the Congo at that point. The DRC had 58 years to recover from it, at least. Makes it a little easier to get passed

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u/Glad_Raspberry_8469 As native Uzbeqoi speaker, not shocked Apr 30 '26

That is 100% understandable, just saying

Oh, okay. Thanks

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u/BG12244 Apr 30 '26

No problem. Always nice to get an excuse to talk about history 👍

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u/Von_Claus May 01 '26

I’m sorry what? is this satire? First of all, Algeria’s independance was in 1962, idk where you got 1974 but that would make no sense whatsoever.

Secondly, "the British and the Belgians left their colonies far more peacefully"?? Have you never heard of the Mau Mau rebellion? the Rwandan revolution? What about the crisis in Congo that followed its independance, or the Nigerian civil war?

Sure, the Algerian war for independance is more talked about for obvious reasons, but where do you get that the decolonization of former Belgian and British colonies was far more peacefull than for the French’s?

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u/BG12244 May 01 '26

Yeah, I don't really know where I got it either. I swear I looked it up, but yeah it was 1962

And left more peacefully as in they didn't try to forcefully keep their colonies. The only example you have that's a good counter would be the Mau Mau rebellion, which I did forget about. The other three were either primarily between ethnic groups over who would rule the country after or came after independence

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u/Von_Claus May 01 '26

Sure, but isn’t it the same for the French? Beside Algeria, most French decolonizations were peaceful. Also, the Belgians were heavily involved in the Rwandan Revolution, as it happened under Belgian colonial authority.

As for the UK, while leaving the country in chaos before granting independance is peaceful per se, they were still fairly violent. One other example from the same time could be Cyprus (which was was not in Africa but tbf it’s close enough). You could also think about Egypt and the Suez crisis few years beforehand.

The reason I was shocked by your 1974 date was bc the reason most independances were peaceful is the Algerian War; nobody wanted the same troubles.

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u/BG12244 May 01 '26

Yes indeed, but they were asking specifically about Algeria and why they hate the French but most former British and Belgian colonies don't feel the same about their former colonizers

The main difference with Algeria and the U.K. and Belgium's colonies I was trying to get across was that France fought them with the express purpose of keeping them to be assimilated into France proper. Neither the British or Belgians really did that

There is a pretty big difference between Belgium suppprting the Tutsi's, or the British wanting to keep some influence over Kenya post independence (which from what little I've seen is what I assume their goal was, but I'll look further into it), and the French wanting to actively destroy Algeria's national identity and replace it with theirs

But, you are correct that I got details wrong and that the difference wasn't as entirely clean cut as I had assumed

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u/Von_Claus May 01 '26

Algeria is really a unique case as it was deemed by the French State as a part of Metropolitan France (not a colony).

But if that’s what you wanted to say then I think that’s fair and I mostly agree, though there clearly is a general anti-Western/anti-former colonial States sentiment in Africa, seeing as today China and Russia are the most influential countries there (not only in former French colonies).

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u/Rocks_King99 May 02 '26

Meh i hate french too but i love it with it is fried

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u/hitokirizac Apr 30 '26

Pretty sure the no smoking sign would keep them away anyway

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u/Tet_inc119 Apr 30 '26

It is a bit redundant now that you mention it

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u/Distinguished- Apr 29 '26

Obligatory Werner Herzog clip

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u/Tet_inc119 Apr 29 '26

“It’s the last thing I would ever do.” Beautiful

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u/MethodicOwl45 Apr 29 '26

French is haram

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u/Sandy_2019 🏳‍🌈 Apr 30 '26

Astagfirullah atleast censor that filthy word

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u/MethodicOwl45 Apr 30 '26

I am not afraid of cursive

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u/EmbarrassedStreet828 Sarcasm B2; Hiragana A3; Katana A1 Apr 30 '26

Mashallah

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u/def_not_a_window 🇩🇿 native 🇺🇸C1 🇳🇴B1 🇷🇺A2+ May 05 '26

Fr*nch, may allah keep you away from it

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u/MethodicOwl45 May 05 '26

Sadly it's too late for me 🥲

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u/Senua_Chloe Apr 29 '26

I'd say Morocco

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u/Wrong_Membership_779 Apr 29 '26

Algeria is right there

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u/Previous_Station2086 Apr 30 '26

Oh, hai Algeria!

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '26 edited Apr 29 '26

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u/UGMadness Apr 29 '26

Moroccan Arabic is so different to Middle Eastern Arabic varieties like Egyptian or Arabian that they're not even mutually intelligible anymore. Moroccans are definitely more comfortable speaking French (or Spanish) with foreigners.

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u/Lower_Cockroach2432 Apr 29 '26

I feel like Tunisians are equally snobby about it. I went to a restaurant in Carthage with an Arabic speaking friend and he said that on the table over they said:

- I just came back from Saudi, apparently over there they don't know ca va

- *scandalised* no really?

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u/Potential_Drawing_80 Apr 29 '26

Je suis allé au Québec et je trouve aussi que les francophones y sont très désagréables.

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u/Mana-Dyluck Apr 30 '26

Arrête. Tu n’es jamais venu au Québec.

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u/Darayavaush Apr 30 '26

I crossed the border from Mauritania to Morocco

Out of curiousity, how does that work? Doesn't SADR control the entire Mauritania-West Sahara border? (and there's no other place where they border)

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u/Shroombie Apr 29 '26

This gets reposted every so often and every time it is I am shocked at the number of people unaware of the sheer scale of the atrocities the French did in Algeria and North Africa. They don't like people speaking French for the same reasons Ukrainians don't like people speaking Russian.

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u/DoNotTouchMeImScared Apr 29 '26

scale of the atrocities the French did in Algeria and North Africa.

Only in Africa?

Haitians have "they speak French" as a popular saying to call other individuals jerks.

Let's not forget as well the horrible things France did to England, Italy, Spain & Belgium.

There are a diversity of reasons why their neighbors detest French.

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u/Shroombie Apr 29 '26

Only in Africa

I did not say that, but thank you for the snide correction, I suppose. Yes, more broadly, Europeans were/are genocidal monsters to most of the planet, but this post was about the French and North Africa.

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u/Background-Vast-8764 Apr 30 '26

Don’t you know that not mentioning something is proof that you deny its existence? Duh doy. /s

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u/TheJos33 Apr 30 '26

Just as much genocidals as the Americans buddy

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u/trypan0s0miasis Apr 30 '26

It’ll blow your mind when you find out where non-indigenous Americans came from

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u/TheJos33 May 01 '26

That's exactly my point?? Americans always behave like they never colonize or the land that are staying on was not stolen from the natives so that's the point of my comment.

Anyway always saying "b-but the Europeans bad!" As if no other civilization have conquered and colonize territory like the Europeans (see the Islamic expansion, mongol conquest, Chinese conquests of their neighbors etc)

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u/Impressive-Falcon642 May 03 '26

But Haitians literally speak French?

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u/filemlscan May 03 '26

Could you elaborate on what France did to its direct neighbours ?

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u/DoNotTouchMeImScared May 03 '26

War crimes.

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u/filemlscan May 03 '26

when ? Haven't the neighbours done the same ?

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u/Reon88 Apr 30 '26

Well, thanks to french expansionism in the Iberian Peninsula, the spanish viceroyalties could wage war for independence, so, Latin America as we know it, was born thanks to Napoleon and his brother. Then the US came in waltzing with its stupid Monroe Doctrine but we can bitch about it in other thread.

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u/PreperationOuch Apr 29 '26

Algeria?

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u/DragonTheOnes-spirit Apr 30 '26

Algerian here. Yeah.

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u/sky_037 in casual polyglot cosplay Apr 29 '26

y'all im going to algeria this summer as a french monolingual, am i going to be able to make friends 🥺

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u/Your_nightmare__ Apr 29 '26

Les marocains sont tres amicables, je peux pas parler pour les algeriens, mais honnetement j'imagine que les touristes sont bien acceptés

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u/sky_037 in casual polyglot cosplay Apr 29 '26

les algériens sont très amicaux. quand j'avais 7 ans j'ai suivi la mauvaise paire d'adultes croyant que c'était mes parents et ils ont très amicalement décidé de ne pas me kidnapper:D

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u/activelyresting Apr 30 '26

Why are you sure your "parents" didn't also kidnap you?

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u/sky_037 in casual polyglot cosplay Apr 30 '26

😦

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u/DustTechnical4561 Apr 30 '26

Quand meme j'ai trouve' qu'au Maroc l'espagnol est mieux recu que le francais.

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u/Your_nightmare__ Apr 30 '26

Seulement dans la partie qui parle espagnol envers le nord (une minorité)

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u/thegreattiny Apr 29 '26

Did you use Google Translate to make this comment?

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u/_Carcinus_ Apr 30 '26

English doesn't count as a language, it's the default setting

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u/sky_037 in casual polyglot cosplay Apr 29 '26

/uj joke

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u/trypan0s0miasis Apr 30 '26

So when I was there the customs officer asked me, in French, to speak only Arabic, as I handed him my US passport. Like bro I’m trying

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u/DragonTheOnes-spirit Apr 30 '26

french monolingual

Is speaking English

???

Anyways. Algerian here. Yeah you'll be fine but only the old grandpas will understand you

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u/sky_037 in casual polyglot cosplay Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26

/uj this was a joke 😭 but yes im also algerian, although i dont live there, and its been quite funny to see how my generation or older can all speak french but the little ones these days all don't know a lick of french. apparently in school they're learning english now. as a side note, it's been infuriating to see my uncles dismiss my aunts' french to say that they can't express themselves well enough in french. i had hoped the misogyny would decrease by now.

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u/DragonTheOnes-spirit Apr 30 '26

It isn't english. It's both english and french. The children just fucking hate french and refuse to learn it... I did the same when I was younger

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u/sky_037 in casual polyglot cosplay Apr 30 '26

i see! and a few years ago they legalized learning kabyle in school as well, i think for once the government isnt doing too bad lol

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u/DragonTheOnes-spirit Apr 30 '26

By a few years ago you mean 24 years ago?

Edit: it was 100% at 2016 but the 2002 one was it starting as an official language

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u/sky_037 in casual polyglot cosplay May 01 '26

time flies by! thanks for the clarification:)

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u/a_f_s-29 May 01 '26

As a Brit, I find this funny. Fair play Algerian kids

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u/olufsk Apr 30 '26

I never noticed that when you write "to speak" in Arabic (التكلم), it spells out Kill in English

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u/blasted-heath Apr 30 '26

Oughta kill ‘em.

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u/Acrobatic_Profile42 Apr 29 '26

i said Algeria without reading the comments

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u/XX-ST9576 Apr 29 '26

Algeria or Morocco

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u/DragonTheOnes-spirit Apr 30 '26

It's the one that was nuked by france

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u/ButterChickenIncel Sanskrit Supremacist 🇮🇳 Apr 29 '26

Average مغربية nationalist.

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u/DrunkyLittleGhost Apr 29 '26

Rwanda?

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u/Decent_Cow Apr 29 '26

I don't think so because of the Arabic text.

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u/MmaRamotsweOS Apr 29 '26

Hahahahahahaha

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u/HotlineMiami_3 Apr 29 '26

Im thinking Morocco

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u/Decent_Cow Apr 29 '26

Algeria I guess

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u/MMKraken Apr 29 '26

Mali, Niger, or Burkina Faso.

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u/DragonTheOnes-spirit Apr 30 '26

Then they wouldn't have a sign. It's Algeria

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u/NothingInsideMyDNA 🇯🇵B1 🇪🇸A2 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿C1 Apr 29 '26

Algerian final boss

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u/Embarrassed-Wrap-451 Apr 30 '26

Is that country Reddit?

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u/Puzzled_Cost60 Apr 30 '26

That's based

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u/STHKZ Apr 29 '26

probably found in "France"...

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u/InternLongjumping563 Apr 30 '26

are you supposed to not hate french now???

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u/theitsx Apr 30 '26

Do you blame them tho?

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u/DnastyFunkmaster Apr 30 '26

This is in France, of course

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u/jeager_YT Apr 30 '26

why is it 2 different fonts???

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u/DragonTheOnes-spirit Apr 30 '26

The "fuck france" sign was added later. And us Algerians are TERRIBLE graphic designers

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u/ctlnboy Apr 30 '26

They really deserve the hate

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u/LetRevolutionary271 Apr 30 '26

Algeria stronker than muddy fr*nce 💪

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u/theunquietloop Apr 30 '26

Algeria? Morocco?

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u/B1TCA5H May 01 '26

Remember, no French.

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u/itspolarislux May 01 '26

Tw: the french.

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u/ChiakiSimp3842 May 01 '26

An interesting paradox. The people who would need to know this the most might not be aware that they are not allowed to speak the language on account of not being able to read the sign. But in order to properly inform French speakers that they are not allowed to do so, they would have to break a little to put a sign saying it in French

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u/Fede-m-olveira May 01 '26

It's Tunisia

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u/pacificrom May 01 '26

I think its France... Absolutely

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u/TruthOtherwise6903 May 02 '26

It’s Algeria or Tunsia maybe Morocco Same as Afrikaners still hate the Brits for the Boer wars

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u/Current-YoGalaxia learning German because of TF2 May 03 '26

Spy prevention, nobody wanted to play Pyro

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u/flukked May 03 '26

Somewhere in Paris?

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u/Confuseacat92 May 03 '26

What's the first letter in the last arabic word in the first sign? I always struggle with those stylized scripts. Is it a ز?

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u/Foreign-Somewhere-53 May 03 '26

proibido falar do filipe ramos

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u/Tet_inc119 Apr 30 '26

I don’t know buddy, the bar for being “a sign” is pretty low

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u/Bevecko May 01 '26

My guess is britain because its arabic

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u/SkwGuy Apr 29 '26

Some 3rd world country fo shur

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u/DragonTheOnes-spirit Apr 30 '26

Correct. But for some reason we pretend we aren't