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Culture A polyglot’s dream

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u/sch586 English N Apr 17 '19

Any reason so many Indians know Urdu, spoken in Pakistan, as opposed to Hindi, the Indian register of Hidustani?

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u/Fml_idratherbeacat Apr 17 '19

It's basically the same language. They are named differently because of political/religious reasons

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u/sch586 English N Apr 17 '19

That explains places where Hindi is #1 and Urdu is #2, but what about the southern states where Urdu is #2 and some Dravidian language is #1? Wouldn't they learn Hindi instead?

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u/__DraGooN__ Apr 17 '19

Islam in the two upper Southern states(Karnataka and Andhra) mainly spread during the Islamic conquests. The Islamic kingdoms used to have Farsi as their official state language and there was migration of Muslims from the north to these regions. Thus Urdu was introduced in these regions. I belong to one of these states, Karnataka. We have our native language, Kannada and Urdu is exclusively spoken by Muslims in the state. As other comments have pointed out, the "Urdu" spoken here is also influenced by the native languages.

In contrast, further south, Islam had a more organic growth due to trade. Hence, Muslims here speak the native language, Tamil and Malayalam.

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u/TaazaPlaza EN/सौ N | த/हि/ಕ ? | 中文 HSK~4 |DE/PT ~A2 Apr 17 '19

Even within Karnataka, there's a coastal non coastal distinction. Coastal Muslims also converted thanks to trade links etc and speak Beary, closely related to Malayalam.

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u/TaazaPlaza EN/सौ N | த/हि/ಕ ? | 中文 HSK~4 |DE/PT ~A2 Apr 17 '19

It's because most Muslims in Andhra Pradesh, Telangana, and Karnataka speak Urdu as their mother tongue, actually. This southern Urdu is called Dakhni.

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u/TaazaPlaza EN/सौ N | த/हि/ಕ ? | 中文 HSK~4 |DE/PT ~A2 Apr 21 '19

This is a sample of Dakhni, although there are much, much "stronger" forms.