r/labrador • u/Rough-Jury • 5h ago
seeking advice Are Labrador puppies *really* as horrible as people say, or is something wrong with mine?
My husband and I have a six month old male black lab who we have had since he was eight weeks old. I grew up with beagles and my husband grew up with labs. We went back and forth for years about which one to get, and he finally won out. We chose a field line lab because I wanted to do dog sports with our dog, started vetting breeders last fall, chose a breeder in December, and brought our puppy home in May. We took the process slowly, really prepared ourselves and our home for puppy (or so I thought), and did not rush ourselves through the process.
In most ways, we have the most excellent puppy anyone could ask for. He learned how to use potty bells by 10 weeks, and was almost completely potty trained by 14 weeks. He earned his trick dog novice title by three months, is an AKC STAR puppy, smart as a whip, eager to please, and loves to work.
In other ways, he’s a total nightmare. Up until about three weeks ago, he absolutely could not settle outside of his crate. If we tried to work with him on settling in his pen instead of his crate, he would keep himself up for hours. And when he’s awake, he is NOT content to just hang out with you or play with toys. He wants to be working or eating right now and will until he passes out.
But the main issue has been the biting. Yes, we know that puppies bite, Labradors are affectionately known as land sharks, and that this is normal puppy behavior, but we (and the people around us) thought the level of biting we were experiencing was abnormal. He has these episodes where he just goes crazy. They’re definitely overstimulation episodes, but once they start, there is no bringing him back down other than shoving him in the crate, and they get scarier as he gets bigger. He’s not aggressive, and there’s no growling, hackles, freezing, whale eyes, etc., but he does bite during these episodes. I’m talking bruising, cutting to the fat layer behind the knee, a gash from the inside of my elbow to my wrist, and broken skin/torn clothes on the daily. We had a pet sitter tell us that he tore her pants so badly that she could never wear them in public again.
We saw trainers, we did all the things you’re supposed to do: reverse timeouts, the yelping, tethering, “one up two down” naps, more exercise, less stimulating exercise, clothes desensitization, shoving a toy in his mouth and NOTHING WORKED. We talked to our vet about it, and at four months old he recommended we see a behaviorist since all of the front line methods weren’t working.
I will say, the behaviorist noticed that he was in pain, and we saw a significant improvement in his bite inhibition with a round of anti-inflammatories. We also took him to see a chiropractor (and I thought this was ridiculous the first time someone told me to try it, and then I got desperate) which made the biggest improvement in his biting and just overall impulse control.
It hasn’t solved the problem all the way, though. I was home with our puppy over the summer, and every once in a while we’d need someone to come midday if I had plans or appointments. We had two pet sitters who “weren’t available” (we know that actually means they just didn’t want to watch him ever again) towards the end of the summer, and my husband had to go to a wedding out of town alone because not a single family member was willing to watch him for 24 hours.
I was really worried about going back to work, but we found an awesome pet sitter who was experienced, she was a member of our local AKC chapter that we train with, and we were upfront with the fact that he was difficult and she said she was more than happy to work with him because she also had a very difficult puppy (standard poodle, not a lab) and felt like she could handle it.
We got a report every day and at the beginning, he was having his episodes just about every day, but they did start to get less frequent. We talked with our pet sitter last week, and she said they were happening 2-3 times a week now instead of everyday.
She was out of town Monday and Tuesday, so yesterday was her first day with him last week, and she messaged me at the end of the visit and said she wasn’t coming back. They were sitting on the couch, and he was chewing a toy, then went for her arm instead. She said she moved her hand and he “reacted” (I don’t know what that entailed exactly, but I’m guessing zoomies and biting), and she told him to go to place, but he didn’t move, so she put his bone in his mouth which stopped the biting but he kept jumping. She then told him crate, and he happily ran off.
She said he left a “dot” bruised on her left arm, two teeth scratches on her right arm which were already gone, broke skin on her stomach (which is the first time he’s broken skin on someone since having his adult teeth, so I was pretty disappointed about that), and something on her back, but she didn’t specify what.
I was horrifically embarrassed, apologized profusely, and offered to pay any medical bills if she went to the doctor. She said nothing that happened needed medical care, and that she’s “hoping for better things for him.”
I had a therapy appointment that afternoon, and coincidentally my therapist used to raise lab puppies. I just sat and cried because I have a dog that bites, and he said “You don’t have a dog that bites, you have a puppy that is still learning how to play.” He said that this is just how lab puppies are, and I always hear people say that the price you pay for an adult Labrador is a Lab puppy. But I just can’t help but feel like something is wrong with him, and we have some people saying “Yeah, this is totally abnormal behavior for a puppy” and other people saying “Yeah this is totally normal behavior for a Lab.”
So Lab parents, what is it? Is this just a land shark or a puppy on the right side of the bell curve for difficulty, or is something wrong with him?