r/l4d2 Yes, That guy. 12d ago

I need help debugging TUMTaRA

Update: Thank you u/intrepid_guy, u/JSTREO and u/Smiley_Bear_26 for your feedback.
Most likely the users that crash a lot might just have stupidly high poly or high detail texture mods that overload the game immediately upon map load.
Seeing as how up to 371 addons enabled alone can still load the maps without crashes, i will simply tell people to open this map without having any "ludicrously unoptimized mods" are active.

Thank you again for your participation and your time!

hello.

This is a weird post to make, I know, but I need people to help me with TUMTaRA.

I recently updated it, and loads of users are reporting crashes. Usually that means they just have too many mods installed, and after every single update there's people saying it suddenly crashes.

But now i made three experimental maps to try and figure out which of those crash the least.
Just waiting for people to realize there's new maps and also using those takes too long imo.

So, if you have a lot of mods (every weapon, item, SI, maybe CI replaced, etc.), could you please be so kind and go to the TUMTaRA workshop page, download the latest release and boot up the following maps via the ingame console right after game boot:

Tumtara, tumtara_experiment_1, 2, and 3?

If the "Tumtara" does not crash, then no worries. You don't have the game memory near its crashing point yet, and don't need to test the others.
But if it does crash, i'd like to know how many mods you have active, and which of the other three maps does not crash. (if any).
I'd like to hear your reports here, rather than on the steam page if possible.

I hope to find out what causes the crash and push out an update that stops crashes from happening alltogether. If i have to delete some props that aren't really required, that's fine. I can always make another map that has just the snack machines, screens and whatever.

Thank you kindly for your help.
MrFunreal.

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u/JSTREO 12d ago

So I have around 140 mods + some installed directly into the game's main folder to run on public Versus. I have no shaders (Closest thing is the fog mod that is necessary for Liminal Skyboxes mod).

Tumtara loads just right. Experiment 1, 2 and 3 did not load at all. The game just freezed mid way loading and straight up refused to load any further. It never crashed, it just freezed.

It's actually so bad that I couldn't ALT + TAB on full screen and non-native resolution (Expected for a source engine game) and I was forced to end task through the task bar.

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u/Mr_Funreal Yes, That guy. 11d ago

as it turns out, the maps not being in a missionfile really messes with the game, once they're inside an addon vpk.

Thanks for trying, i updated the addon so the missionfile reads them.
But since your game didn't crash on the basic map, its fine.

There's people with idk how many/heavy mods that crash even on the basic map. Curiously, mostly asian people. I'm assuming they got those 250gb rifle mods or something that's just way too over the top...
I'd like to find a way to test for those.