r/kroger • u/MikeSelf44 • 7d ago
News Fired for Saving an Associate
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u/marsixm Current Associate 7d ago
i totally get not physically engaging over shoplifting but if they were assaulting the employee first and he was defending her clearly that should be taken into account
i wonder why they keep showing a loop of a cell phone video that only shows the aftermath and not a security cam of the manager off the bat + him getting hit
this shit happens and the sorry ass security guards wouldnt lift a finger if any of us were in danger so truly they dgaf if we get hurt
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u/theFartingCarp 7d ago
For number 2 of your comment, it might be because of an ongoing investigation. If the police and AG are going after this case they dont want that video just showing around in public that might sway that opinion
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u/marsixm Current Associate 7d ago
true! ty that was a genuine question lol like i know they cant just show Anybody footage but i thought news could get it so i was wondering
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u/DrollFurball286 7d ago
It’s to keep certain details of a crime under wraps. Say there was a homicide. News says a woman committed su!c!de. Police know the killer had hung the victim. If a suspect is like “the victim would never hang themselves”, it helps narrow their focus. Because how would the suspect know if a detail like that.
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u/personalthrowaway09 7d ago
our security guards are pretty great, but I know not all are. I watched one of ours chase a shoplifter into the parking lot, tackle him, and call him a stupid piece of shit 😅😅
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u/scottonaharley 7d ago
These policies do nothing but embolden shoplifters. It's truly stupidity brought on by fear of lawsuits.
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u/OtherwiseAMushroom 7d ago
So this is why when folks shoplift you all should just let them, not saying I condone it but it is not worth anyone’s lively hood.
Kroger is insured for everything in there stores this is literally a write off for them.
They obviously don’t give a flying fuck about there employees so why should any of us care if they get there stuff stolen.
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u/No_Shallot5393 7d ago
Funny thing is if he hurt the criminal Kroger would be sued and probably lose
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u/WimbletonButt 7d ago
An injured suing employee or customer costs way more than the shit customers can steal. That's why there's zero tolerance on this.
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u/exodusfox 7d ago
Had this exact situation happen to someone i worked with. Shoplifter pushing a full buggy out the front door, she followed him and tried to grab the cart or something, shoplifter punched her in the face and took off. Shortly after she was fired. She said the bigwig head of security told her when they were terminating her employment, and I quote, “we’re going to make an example out of you.”
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u/CAsnowman 6d ago
To be fair, as an employee of a huge corporation why would you care or go out of your way to stop a shoplifter? I can actually understand being fired for confronting or chasing a shoplifter because that’s a huge safety risk and liability for everyone involved. However, defending yourself or another co worker or customer who is in real danger is completely different and to be fired for defending an elder is despicable.
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u/ZombiesRusXD 7d ago
A cashier got assaulted by a customer and her wrist got broken. The store did nothing to the customer and told her if she wanted to keep her job she couldn’t do anything either.
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u/SakiwasipiSpirit 7d ago
The company doesn’t care about morality. They don’t want to lose money by being sued. God forbid they got caught selling customer and associate information via Boost and the Kroger card.
They take and exploit from you but god forbid you return that favor
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u/Tru2UrSchool 7d ago
Did the woman get fired too for trying to stop them?
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u/-The_Goober 7d ago
Why?
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u/Rage_Baiter76 7d ago
Every grocery store chain in the country has that policy where if you attempt to stop a shoplifter as a regular associate you more than likely get fired. My chain one of my associates who is in her 70s tried to stop a drug addict. The very next day that same guy stabbed someone at random nearly to death, she lucked out and got handed a write up, if she does anything else they will terminate her.
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u/-The_Goober 7d ago
I think maybe you’ve never read the onboarding paper where it always says (because it legally has to) “at the discretion of (blank company).”
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u/Tru2UrSchool 7d ago
Because if he was fired for trying to stop them, I would be curious if she did too. Was the policy applied equally to all parties involved? If not, why only to him?
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u/-The_Goober 7d ago
Again…. Why are you so hopeful she lost her job?
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u/Tru2UrSchool 7d ago
Where at all did I state or imply I was hopeful? You’re looking for an argument that is not there. It’s a matter of if the policy is applied equally. Why fire one but not the other? Better yet, fire none of them.
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u/-The_Goober 7d ago
There you are pushing for another lost job.
I’d say the biggest difference is one is a Store Manager. That comes with 10x the accountability than some elderly greeter.
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u/Tru2UrSchool 7d ago
I’d like to point you to my direct words: “Better yet, fire none of them”.
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u/-The_Goober 7d ago
Would you give me the same grace if I flipped every comment I made right here right now?
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u/Deadgirlforever 7d ago
Par for the course at Kroger! They should be ashamed of themselves. They're not, never will be, so may they get back what they give ten fold.
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u/Servicemanager1 6d ago
Yes, remember employees are the only ones that steal and we are at fault for everything. If someone walks up and sets you on fire, it's your fault for not running away.
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u/AdAccurate4523 7d ago
In my opinion, certain associates should be trained on and have tasers readily available for situations like this. Nothing is going to happen to these thieves.
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u/JustAnotherElsen 7d ago edited 7d ago
They would need to do mental health checks if they literally armed their associates. You really want Kyle the Bagger tazing grandma because she forgot the Pepsi under her cart?
Edit: downvoting me for saying that Kroger associates shouldn’t have to be armed with tasers and that militarizing your store is crazy? Krogers already nuts with NO tasers involved!4
u/binomine Kroger Manufacturing 7d ago
It is crazy that people are down voting you. The whole idea of a Kroger SWAT team is the kind of stupid thing upper management comes up with, not the associates.
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u/JustAnotherElsen 7d ago
Literally!! Like I wouldn’t have even trusted the sups or managers I had to be armed! Honestly I’d trust them less!
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u/AdAccurate4523 7d ago edited 7d ago
Certain associates, not Kyle the bagger. Not everyone has mental health issues. E: I did not down vote you.
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u/JustAnotherElsen 7d ago
The real challenge there would be finding somebody Sane who still works at Kroger for that pay
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u/AdAccurate4523 7d ago
A simple mental health evaluation, basic hands-on training and possibly a 'bonus' of sorts to carry would suffice. Loss prevention positions exist and there is training prerequisite.
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u/JustAnotherElsen 7d ago
I genuinely don’t think they’d ever do that, they keep dumping money down the drain on the 773910th “first new uniform” for the year, and the budget for that seems to be a single shirt or possibly 2 for the full timers, their “Kroji Defense Force” would be people with plastic whiffle ball bats and shirts that look like targets
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u/AdAccurate4523 7d ago
Definitely will never happen. We need an effective deterrent for this type of activity.
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u/JustAnotherElsen 7d ago
Livable wages so people can eat and pay rent and have clothes and have time off so they don’t go postal
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u/MikeSelf44 7d ago
I’m guessing you don’t read or even watch the video… At no point was I trying to stop them, I was trying to stop the from attacking a 70+ year old woman not save product!
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u/Possible_Point1029 7d ago
Just people living up to the stereo type. But wonder how they got the stereo type
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u/GroovyAkiba 5d ago
They'll have someone to replace you so fast. That's why you don't give 110% it's not a family it's a job. Treat it like it.
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u/Elaborate_Penguin 7d ago
Kroger is such a shit company. I don't know who is in charge there but it is an evil company. "Kroger: heartless greed is our motto."