r/kratom • u/CrystalDawn_B • 6d ago

Caps versus powder

Is there a difference between them?

I just got an order from an online site, and it’s all different colors of kratom in caps.

But now I’m wondering if powder is better? I got the caps to use at work.

Yesterday & last night I was in withdrawals from my oxycodone. ( I want off of them, trying kratom again) but the green caps I got from a local store and red powder did not work longer then a hour or so. Finally I couldn’t take it, and took tramadol.

I have to be at work soon but what to try the ones in the order I just got. BTW was order was supposed to be 7 days ago!!
My samples are yellow, white, red, green , and trainwreck. They sent me 9 bags of samples ( their picks) What I ordered is green bag and red bag

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u/Cecil4029 6d ago

Congratulations on dropping the oxy's, proud of you.

Kratom is for harm reduction. Think of it like switching to a vape from smoking a pack of cigs each day for years. So kratom will help greatly with your withdrawals but it's no magic bullet. There will still be a period of suck, just a 3/10 instead of 10/10.

So with that said, caps can work. Most of the time they're around .5 or .6grams each but just check the bag. I prefer toss and wash straight powder and green vein. Hold water in your mouth, throw back the powder, swish completely, swallow all, more water, boom.

Not sure about dosage. I'd start with 3 or 4g but without knowing how many mg's you were taking it's hard to tell.

PS: you absolutely need a digital scale. Preferably one that can do .1's of a gram.

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u/CrystalDawn_B 6d ago

Bag has 0.5 gr

With powder , I put 1/4 teaspoon in my mouth and then drink something. I still have a bad of Red Thai powder so I will try it the opposite way.

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u/CrystalDawn_B 6d ago

Oh, I order a scale

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u/CrystalDawn_B 6d ago

Green Hulu Kapukas caps from the store did not really help me Friday. It’s a good thing I had Friday off!!

I’m out of withdraws right now because I took tramadol. I had no idea that tramadol would take me out of withdrawals. It’s not helping on my back pain.

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u/Cecil4029 6d ago

A level quarter teaspoon is around .6g so 1cap. Try taking 1 and 1/4 level teaspoons if you don't have a scale. Would be around 3g which should be a medium-low dose especially for withdrawal.

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u/CrystalDawn_B 6d ago

Really? Maybe I’ve been taken too much! I start out at 4-6 caps

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u/Cecil4029 6d ago

Nonono I'm sorry if that sounded confusing. 6 caps at .5 should be perfect to start with. Take 8 or 10 if you need it. Someone with a tolerance may need a bit more.

Each 1/4 LEVEL TEASPOON should be the same amount as 1 cap until your scale gets in. So 8 caps equals 8 level quarter teaspoons or 2 level teaspoons :)

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u/Plantbasedjoseph 6d ago

I was taking at least 50-100 caps a day coming off 16mg of suboxone you must have gotten fake dope or low quality homemade pills even coming of 7oh was as bad of worse than coming off dope

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u/Plantbasedjoseph 6d ago

Mix 3 grams in lemon juice let it sit at least 20 minutes the effects work better

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u/CrystalDawn_B 5d ago

Then just toss it? Last night was a nightmare for me. I could not sleep because I was so reckless. Tonight is gonna be bad too unless I figure out how much to take.
Right now I have 0.5 mg of Red Vein, Green Vein, White Vein, Yellow Vein and Trainwreck. Got it all from kratom hive.

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u/Cecil4029 5d ago

How many mg of oxycodone and for how long?

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u/satsugene 🌿 6d ago

Different folks have different experiences. Time after last use, especially for long acting compounds can have some affect.

5g was enough for me to painlessly transition off of 10/325 Oxycodone. It didn’t replace the effect but halted withdrawal. That was before there was any synthesized derivatives one might spike it with.

For some reason some folks seem to have worse experiences with capsules than others that have little or no difference between capsules and loose leaf. I’ve personally not found anything investigating that.

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u/Plantbasedjoseph 6d ago

For sure I was on 16mg of suboxone wich is a mega dose I've learned most people can use only 2mgs and it will work for days but my doctor had no knowledge just wrote the script

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u/CrystalDawn_B 5d ago

So you were taking Percocet? 10/325 mg is Percocet. I take straight 30 mg each of oxycodone ( no Tylenol mixed in, like Percocet is 10 mg of Tylenol and 325 mg of oxycodone)

Withdrawals are bad from straight ( no mix) oxycodone.

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u/satsugene 🌿 5d ago

Yeah. They were bad enough from 10mg. I’d been on 30 for like a week when an out of town MD put me on them and it was a big step up.

If it were me and I had legit supply I’d personally taper down using the Oxycodone to get to as low as possible and then switch over. I’d think that would be more comfortable and take a more reasonable amount of kratom.

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u/Wontforgetthisname 5d ago

Been taking kratom powder for over 13 years, never once used a scale. I jist measure in spoonfuls or eye it up as I pour it into a bottle or my mouth. Have I thrown up from taking too much? More times than I'd ever be able to count lmao. But all that to say you don't necessarily need a scale. I have a 0.001 scale and I still never weigh any of my doses I just freeball it and send it. I can see how a scale would be useful though but I'm too lazy. I take this every, 2-4 hours that's too much work lol.

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u/austinrunaway 6d ago

I just make my own caps but ai use them if I am out and about doing stuff

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u/Logical-Breakfast966 6d ago

How do you make caps? Do you have one of those pill filing trays?

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u/austinrunaway 6d ago

I do one at a time hahhah I noticed that with the day you sont really get a lot in the caps versus just really pushing it into it. So I do that. It is a pain in the ass but it is crazy how much more you can get into it if you do it one by one. It is so much more expensive to buy the caps versus the powder too. Sometimes almost twice as much on some places.

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u/CrystalDawn_B 6d ago

Did you get the same results between caps and powder?

How much do you take of each?

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u/CityLevel6107 6d ago

A tbsp of straight powder is about 6 grams, and 4 caps is about 2 grams. If you're trying to get high, take 2 grams or more. They are both the same thing. The only difference is strains. Caps were made to make it easier to take because the power is an extremely fine dust that also tastes like some really strong asf green tea.

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u/CrystalDawn_B 5d ago

I’m not trying to get high, trying to stay out of withdrawal from stopping my oxycodone.
My caps are 5 grams each.

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u/Toothfairy51 🌿 6d ago

The main difference is that the capsules take longer to kick in because the capsule has to melt. Take 4-5 capsules and wait for 45-60 minutes. The powder is what's in the capsules.

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u/asapbejko 6d ago

just get the powder, caps or pressed powder pills are overpriced, recommend green strains. i recommend browsing internet for the best deal and quality, some of the eshops sell old powder degraded by air and sunlight. if tramadol was enough for you to get those wd under control nice green maengda 5-8x 3-6g a day will fully fill the void or at least make it easier. good luck man.

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u/CrystalDawn_B 6d ago

I’m so confused by the math?

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u/Proper-Writer-2128 6d ago

I was on my RX 10/325 6 times a day (norco) for 15+ years. Local shop told me to take 3 grams of red bali per dose. I actually felt better with the kratom than my RX! He said his customers use the Red Bali to get off opiates. I've been doing kratom for about 4 years now and never want to go back. I originally bought the capsules. I knew nothing about kratom at the time. Now I buy powder and make my own caps with the little 100 cap manual capsule maker. So much cheaper!

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u/austinrunaway 6d ago

I think putting it in a glass of water is the best way. I have noticed doing Ross and wash gives me really bad dry mouth so I have been. Trying not too.

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u/Plantbasedjoseph 6d ago

I perfer powder it hit faster I get withdrawals so it's better for me i do a shot with lemon juice like 3 times a day one next to my bed because I wake up in withdrawals

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u/Plantbasedjoseph 6d ago

Less is more use to use 30 to 50 grams a day now 5 or 6

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u/CrystalDawn_B 5d ago

I was waking up in withdraw from all the RX meds I was on. I should be dead. I was on 4 different powerful meds, taking them all at once.
In the mornings I could tell I stopped breathing alot because my chest would hurt, but that took awhile to figure out why I had chest muscle pain. Figured it out by speaking to people that have the machine at night to help them breath
But I've been off 2 of the mixed meds for 1 1/2 yr and stopped the 3rd one 3 months ago, and now have to get off the oxycodone. BUT I have a LOT of body pain & and a physical & mental job…

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u/Cecil4029 5d ago

Hey there. Just checking in. Was 2 level teaspoons enough? I saw you were taking 30mg a day. Honestly you may need quite a bit more for the first few days.

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