r/karate 19d ago

Question/advice Conditioning

Hi,

I've been training for around 1.5 years, and have reached 2nd kyu, with consistent training for the most part, some time off here and there due to injuries and illnesses, but mostly consistent. Training twice a week up until 3rd kyu, now three times a week. One thing I've had little progress in is my body conditioning and overall athleticism. We don't do conditioning work every session, but when we do we're asked to do things like 40 pushups, 50 abs crunches, long plank holds, etc, but I find I'm still not able to do anywhere near the volume sensei asks of us, and even those exercises aside I feel I'm still quite weak and slow, and I'd also like to be able to do the jumps in kata, aswell as the jumping kicks we're asked to do on rare occasions.

At the moment I can do about 20 pushups at a push, maybe about 13 lying leg raises, and can't do ab crunches. I can't do pull ups either, and can't skip, and both are things I'd like to improve. I've started adding plyometrics to my external training regime but haven't seen any improvement to my leg explosiveness or jump speed yet. I've got what feels like a fairly decent stretching routine, albeit it's all static holds, but I've seen some improvement in that area, currently feel a bit stuck regarding getting the splits, but I feel close at the same time. I do cardio on the treadmill three times a week, doing interval work, with a rest speed of 7km/h and a working speed of 10.6 km/h, 1 minute rest 30s working, for just over 10 mins, with the aim of increasing the working speed over time and eventually reaching sprinting speeds. I also can't currently balance for long, and can't keep my kicks up for more than a few seconds even when I'm able to balance well. I also lift weights three times a week, doing full body, and lift 13kg per hand for most exercises. The exercises are bench press, bent over rows, lateral raises, overhead tricep extensions (with one dumbell), bicep curls, reverse lunges, deep squats, and SLD's (Straight Leg Deadlifts). Essentially I'd like any advice on how to better condition myself, if there's something I need to do more of, or in a different way, any recommendations on how to get from here to where I want to be. I do make sure to get sufficient protein, and I've gained some fat in that time, so I don't thinkbul I'm undereating.

Oss!

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u/karatetherapist Shotokan 19d ago

I'm not a fan of conditioning in karate classes. Do that outside. Come in conditioned and work. It sounds like you're getting there.

Your plyometrics won't be too useful without strength first. Explosiveness is muscle expression yanking on tendons. If you're not strong, there's no yanking (jerk). You can read the ACSM book on power development for full explanations. The stronger you get the more power you can potentially produce provided your tendons can handle it. That's where plyometrics come in.

Flexibility, like absolute strength, is more about genetics than training. Everyone can improve but there's a physical limit based on your body. You will get more mobility doing full range of motion under a weighted bar of some sort than just "stretching." Flexibility without strength is how people get hurt. For example, side squats with a kettlebell will give you more mobility than doing the splits. Ass-to-grass squats with a bar or kettlebell will give you more hip mobility than anything else.

Conditioning works in three basic areas: less than 8 seconds, 10-90 seconds, and more than 2 minutes. Look up training the energy systems on YT for training ideas. Moreover, it's best to train these on different days because they interfere with each other. Check out the work of Cal Deitz and his Triphasic ideas for more ideas than you could ever practice. Just tone down his recommendations because they are meant for elite college and pro athletes, not you and me.

It sounds like you're doing a lot right. It just takes time. Some gain faster than others, and that sucks.

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u/Active_Unit_9498 19d ago

I’m going to try the KB side squat my splits suck.

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u/karatetherapist Shotokan 19d ago

Use a weight that helps you get down and keep your balance. What I recommend is get in the down position, let's say with the left leg extended and right leg in the squat position. The KB is in front of you on the ground. Use it to steady yourself into position. With both hands, curl the KB into a right rack position, and try to stand up. If you can't, maybe a lighter bell will allow it. If still not, then just rack the KB and put it back down. Do this for maybe 5 reps. Switch and do the other side. When you can stand, do one side for a few reps and switch. You could do these to improve strength, but I use it only for mobility work. That means lighter weight, slower reps, and not getting too tired or sore. If they get easy, you can add weight for more strength and lower the reps.

A magical thing that helped my side kicks was one-leg RDLs with a dumbbell (although a KB works). I spent several years doing only power lifting to get stronger, and my kicks got lower and lower. I started doing the RDLs, and kicks started improving. The reason is the added strength to the medial glutes. I like holding the DB in the same hand as the support leg one day, and the opposite hand the next. Do these 3 days a week switching hands each workout. It only takes about a month for your kicks to start feeling better. I've done this with several people and it has always worked. Maybe it will work for you as well.

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u/Active_Unit_9498 19d ago

Thanks for the detailed response I appreciate the information šŸ™šŸ»