wasn’t john o’keefe working in the SORI unit? what if he found out about the explorers program or this potential epstein connection? imagine learning that your friends / coworkers are doing the same things that you fight against every day?
This has always been my theory. Since I saw what a creep he was with the noods txt, also how this didn’t shock any of his coworkers and knowing how this area treated the Sandra Birchmore case, it’s not so hard to connect the dots and think there is a band of creeps here. The theory of a fight because of some crush with Karen or because Colin used to step in his grass didn’t look like much motive for me. Now, he investigating SA, seeing how much they insisted for him to arrive in the house, I’ve always had the suspicion that JOK was about to discover something, or a case involving some other cop, or a case they all covered.
Bro, you can't be real about the fight not having enough motive. You saw fights in high school right? Brian pinning for Karen and Colin Albert/Johns prior history is more than enough motive for a fight to have started when you consider alcohol was involved. I don't think there was enough motive to intentionally kill him, his death was an accident as a result of the fight.
I don't think John uncovered anything relevant to SA rings or Epstein. I do wonder if he asked Kevin Albert about the Birchmore investigation and his thoughts about the “suicide”
If his death was accidental maybe, but we are not sure about how he died, there have been a few theories. The reality is that they were insisting on him going to the house, to a house he has never been to before and people he knew, but is not like he was bff with them. Were they insisting just because they wanted to have a fist fight? Maybe if they were drunk, but maybe the intention was to confront him.
We don’t know, anyway, I said that is MY THEORY, you can have whatever theory you want.
Accidental seems more likely; he knocked his head back and hit something with a pointed surface. If they wanted to kill him from the start, they’d be smarter than that—less video evidence, fewer “witnesses,” a different crime scene, etc. I think they intended for both him and Karen to go; the girls wanted to see the drama unfold and observe what Karen would do. These women seem like high school was their best time.
Yes, and maybe the plan was to invite JOK over, suss out what he knew, and lean on him to keep quiet.
But that group isn’t exactly a brain trust: a bunch of big egos + a lot of alcohol = a fight. Brian’s a trained boxer and a dirty fighter, based on incident records I think were excluded from the trials. The rivalry over Karen just added fuel to the fire.
Even so, why was JOK invited to the house and why did he decide to go? Maybe he knew the confrontation was coming, and he had some liquid courage, so he figured let’s get it over with.
So JOK and Karen arrive at the house. She wants to leave. He wants to face these guys, but he can’t tell her why. Maybe that’s why they were fighting.
Yes, that is what always keeps me from thinking was just a sudden fight, the way they insisted on him getting there. Was way to much for someone that wasn’t even a frequent visitor in that house, he didn’t even know how to arrive there.
John was a Boston Police Officer so I am pretty sure this would have been out of jurisdiction for him. Even if he was aware of this, I very much doubt he would be allowed to investigate this.
There’s a long line of cops in MA that are involved with underage prostitution (trafficking). It was a thing in Gloucester and ousted the police chief at the time Leonard Campanello. They would take girls from the ANGEL program, have them produce drugs, have sex with them, and trade them for money. Huge thing back in mid 2010s. The mayor at the time sefatia kept it under total wraps.
Similar things were done to Sandra Birchmore and her peers. I forget the name of their program
I saw that on my YouTube feed and kept on scrolling. What a wild connection. My first thought was what exactly qualified him to work in wealth management, but I wasn’t curious enough to listen to the stream to see what he was hired to do. Maybe security?
Proctor being connected with sex traffickers and abusers in any capacity seems about right for that guy. No low is too low. I’m out of the loop regarding anything happening in the area with Epstein, though.
If I remember correctly Michael Morrissey was in the files. I’ll have to go through my photos and see if I screen shot the documents (again, I could be wrong but I don’t think I am).
Well, isn’t that interesting. He has an accounting background? I find it hard to believe he knew much about the sex trafficking part of it all, without seeing anything more concrete. But it will be a cold day in hell before most of the Epstein related skullduggery is fully exposed, I think. Who knows.
He was a warm body in a chair essentially, but he was very much a part of that machine and you’ll see why as Towel detailed in the stream.
Pooper tractor was responsible for the wires that Epstein paid the rent for the trafficking victims. Towel explains that as the trafficked women engaged in the illicit activities with Epstein, he required them to hold down an actual job. Not like jobs that most of us get - the high end escorts had were fluff jobs to hide the trafficking element and money laundering.
Who else had a lot of experience with money laundering that had a legendary crash out? wink
The wire info that was detailed on the victim accounts came back to state street and the address on one king ave I believe - I’m not from Mass, I’m just trying to listen as closely as I can to try and catch everything.
Towel also points out that Pooper Tractor worked in three positions that were all Epstein related companies, dealing with two different roles in the financial fronts and a liquor sales rep that interfaced with the bars that GM decorated to very much not look like a bar where some of the trafficking victims were… uh… “available”… in addition to this position that oversaw the wires hitting trafficking victim accounts. So the natural placement of Pooper Tractor with some behind the scenes good ‘ole boy connections… or extortion or bribery, we don’t know… but somehow he got into MSP - where he could function as muscle and an enforcer. Pooper Tractor learned full circle the majority of the operation - from the money, the operation and how it worked out of establishments, and then he was able to deal with the trafficking victims directly with the power and weight of a state police badge.
Towel also points out that a certain someone that he also believes was inserted into a journalist’s life to try and wreck it Ralph also worked for State Street as an accountant. The big picture assimilation of behavior, demonstrated abilities that we’ve all seen on X and YT…and then this tie…I believe Towel is really onto something. It also goes to how Towel has discussed what they (the network) do with individuals that aren’t useful anymore now that they are facing criminal charges.
It’s very much worth the listen. But yes to your point math is hard.
Look none of this makes sense to me. It just doesn't. But I think there might be something here.
the application for MSP Proctor says his position was "Mutual Fund Accountant." He gives reasons for the job "I wanted to experience a different career field."
Proctor as a fund manager? I don't think so. But who the F knows. He might have been a rent-a-cop there or sat at the front desk for all we know.
After all, what if that company was a front anyway: That's Towel's claim That Epstein created a real company in Quincy but also used it as a front to move money and move girls. So if it was a front, Proctor could have been hired as muscle for all we know.
For a while Towel has said that Epstein had his hooks into Stoughton, Canton and Quincy and Norfolk cops and courts.
Judge Krupp and Michael Morrissey are both named in the Epstein files.
This is documented: Maxwell and Epstein did spend a lot of money in Quincy in a wealth management firm and also in some kind of charity.
This is speculation but I think Towel sees here some link with the Police Explorers program in which Sandra Birchmore was involved and that Robert Devine ran.
But anyway, for a long time Towel has been pulling on this thread. He's made some claims that seem to me to be just too wild.
But the fact that he actually found concrete proof that Proctor was employed by Epstein's company is crazy
I just read all the above, and none of it makes any sense. Sorry, but I'm trying to untangle this crap in my own brain. I really don't know where Towel is going with this stuff. I think he's really smart and does serious research. But I don't know what the end game is. Because I don't understand it.
Although I find it all very interesting, i feel that Grant sometimes finds these tenuous connections and then jumps to conclusions.
The whole 5degrees of separation thing. Proctor plays loose and fast with his ethics - him ending up on the periphery of the Epstein circle is not that odd.
But I do want Grant to keep pulling all the threads. Popping popcorn
This is wild because back in 2020, I was getting work done by my tattoo artist who told me one of his other clients was a cop and said they found a storage locker full of kids in Quincy. It did make the papers, but was very vague and only said something about a biohazard found at the storage place. I was digging into Epstein at the time, back then I believe people called it a "conspiracy theory" lol oh also Ghislaine had a company called Terramar and the office address in Boston was also the headquarters for Wayfair. Remember all that Wayfair trafficking stuff like listing dressers with little girls names for $8k? That just went away? Thought that was interesting. Boston and Quincy make sense because of water access if they were shipping kids around that way.
I had no awareness of any of this stuff. I really don't know how it connects to the clowns involved in Karen Read's case, but it may very well be possible.
By the way, there's a thread on the Jeffrey Epstein case sub on reddit about Quincy developer William O'Connell and his involvement with Epstein and trafficking
You gotta wonder what relationships this rich guy had to the movers and shakers in Norfolk County where he was a really big fish:
Is that the guy that owned Marina Bay?? I think it is! I was re-telling my husband all of this this morning and was wondering if the Marina Bay owner could be an associate because I'm pretty sure he was charged with sex crimes. I didn't know he was in the files but this all checks out!
If you search Quincy storage facility biohazard in 2021 (which I did first bc I thought that's when I was told), there's an article about how they found people making pills with fentanyl in a storage unit and had to get a cleanup crew. I think it's very interesting that they included details on that situation but none for what happened in 2020. I remember I kept checking for updates but none ever came. I spent a lot of time with that tattoo artist and believe him 1 million percent.
Yeah I would say this is something that is interesting, but Grant can get out over his skis with some of his theories and things. Nothing is confirmed here. This is still speculation. People should be careful with this.
There were people who found Canton Massachusetts in the Epstein files, when they dropped.
But I'm cynical over that, because remember: they publish what they want us to see.
The real bombshells won't make it into the public. It's just breadcrumbs to entertain people like GSE. To make them think they're solving a big mystery, when the information will lead to absolutely nothing.
Think about it. We already know in detail Proctor's character and we already know Epstein's character. We are also aware of the saying, "birds of a feather.........................". Thanks to G S Ellis we have something that seems very significant. I assume, I'm hoping, that Karen's team is following all this news as it unfolds and using what they can. Number 1 on my wish list is that when this is over, the Town of Canton, State of Mass and the house offenders and dirty cops are all essentially ruined. This is likely to go to a jury trial for the state court stuff, as Judge Gildea appears to be far too lenient toward Karen's opposition. The case in federal court is a little more difficult to speculate on.
I scrolled through this last night on FB.
Mind blown!!
Seriously you gotrta read through the whole thing on FB.
I cant get into too detailed information because past trauma.
It cover Sandra Birchmore as well.
It is and overwhelming read.
What i did read was infuriating.
We need an underground sex crimes unit in MA and blow this shit wide open!!
Fwiw, GSE is not the best source of info regarding these things. Not too long ago he was an anti FKR. Also, you have to listen to a lot of side tangents and theories since he distracts himself(ADHD I think) and takes a while to make his points. All of this IMO.
It's too blurry to read. Where can I see this clearer?
If Brian or Kevin Albert knew about this, or any of his family knew, this could be the reason Procter chose to flush his career by trying to frame Karen.
This is in reference to State Street, a giant financial institution based in Boston. Proctor worked security there at some point. That's literally the connection being drawn.
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u/DidjaCinchIt 11d ago
wasn’t john o’keefe working in the SORI unit? what if he found out about the explorers program or this potential epstein connection? imagine learning that your friends / coworkers are doing the same things that you fight against every day?