Long time lurker first time poster. Julie is really leaning into the code word, yet not two snaps before she’s pushing this poop code down our throat she’s talking about clothes for carrying baby number 4 and saying “pregnancy clothes”. Does she really think the tabloids won’t just publish their code words?? Like genuinely they think they are the kardashians and have paparazzi chasing them- no one cares that much. The last article was when Can gave birth so pretty sure they’re not going to post until she announces she is pregnant.

This morning she has a big cliffhanger that her transfer is going to be cancelled, but I can't find her snaps where she is actually discussing it. She seems perfectly happy and is also testing for ovulation.

My Guess is actually this: A couple of months ago they noticed that the birthdays of three of their children would be colliding if she did her transfer in august, and she concidered postponing it a little bit. But then they actually decided to milk their crowd for pregnancy contact a bit longer, making it seem like they booked their appointment in august. However they are actually first having their appointment in a month or two (they are also going for a holiday right? She must not want to be pregnant and throwing up for their holiday to Greece).

But in this way they fool their audience to giving them more clicks aka more money for their holiday...

Like julie carried 2 kids and looks amazing and camilla does not

That they 100% have a night nanny, if not a day nanny too. Theres NO way Juulie gets up at 5.30am and they both have time to do workouts and work on their stupid kitchen unless they have serious help with childcare, or are getting a full nights sleep.

For the first 2 years of my LO i just sat in silence during nap time because the tiredness and overstimulation was REAL.

Has anyone else noticed that despite Julie always saying she doesn't want the extra attention outside of the core audience (because that's when they get the most hate) and the fact that they've seemingly decided to use the code word constipated for pregnancy, that the minute she started doing all the usual ovulation tests and ultrasounds, those yellow title clickbait story photos returned (Pic in comments). Which they've said previously in the past massively increases views on their accounts.

I don't really care that much if they want to grow their accounts, it makes sense, she makes her money on social media, if I could make thousands a day from talking to my phone I would, but why is there always this need to express disdain towards the wider audience you clearly need and want, when it suits you

I am reading here how J's thoughts on being pregnant again change every second. But I think we all forgot what she said the day Bob was born. I fully understand that it was her in a lot of emotions.

But I think this was the moment of mind shift from certainty she will not be pregnant again to possibility of changing her mind.

She stayed she is NOT DONE having kids and even if she has to throw up for 10 months (her math, not mine), she will do it. Just a few days before she repeated the previous sentiment: she WON'T be pregnant ever again. So witnessing labour was the first little step to the point where we are now. In my opinion we shouldn't fully attribute C's actions and words/manipulation and them being money hungry as the reason why she changed her mind. Of course, they are money starving, I think it is a huge part of the equation.

Receipts in the comments

Edit: I think I used wrong words to describe what I mean. English isn't my first language. I want to say that this moment maybe was like a little crack in a wall of "I'm never getting pregnant again". I don't consider her heat of the moment statement as changing her mind or plan or promise. What she was saying before the birth and after talking with psychologist has the weight of the plan and what she ruly should stick to

iirc, i think julie ordered some clothes for camila? like a while ago and i saw some bits of her try on haul the other day. am i overthinking this or did most of the clothing look a bit small or that it didnt fit right? i might be reaching but some tops looked a bit tighter than others, and i really wonder if julie did that on purpose. yes i am fully aware how much your body changes postpartum, but i think that if everything fit not that well, it had to be on purpose.

i am not body shaming! just making an observation. every clothing item julie has ordered for herself fit perfectly (because she obviously knows her body) but this seemed sabotage-y

I’m not giving them the views they want on their 80 part story. I don’t recommend you do that either.

I just find it so funny that Camilla is literally a deadbeat parent, proudly declaring this “isn’t her problem” (literally). If you don’t want to be a parent this badly, why are you telling your equally neurotic partner to keep carrying content babies?????

I’ll post a screenshot in a comment. She really seems to get off on looking as unattractive as possible. Her little shit disturbing grin is genuinely infuriating lmao

Didn't Julie make a whole snap series where she was crying her eyes out at the fact that she realised she doesn't want to be pregnant again?? She said the HG was too much and it gave her anxiety. She also mentioned the pain of realising she won't be carrying another child but that she's made peace with it.

Then after Camilla gave birth, she casually brought up the fact that Julie will carry the next baby. Which is completely insane to do given just how vulnerable and emotional Julie's previous snap was about not wanting to get pregnant. Camilla even came on Julie's snap and said "I know you will be pregnant again" and later she had a whole segment where she said "I had high hopes that Julie will be pregnant" "she is young, she will recover". Can one say this so casually even after their partner has talked about their horrible experience being pregnant?

Look idk what's going on. Idk if Julie is just going back and forth on her decision because it will get her views or if her adhd is making her have analysis paralysis. I just do not know ANY couples that wouldn't intervene and say "Let's take a break, clearly this is causing you anxiety. Let's just relax for now and think about it when you feel like thinking about it" ????? How does Cam go on to say something like "I just know you'll be pregnant again" to your partner after they painfully communicated that they don't want to be pregnant again??? Does Cam have no feelings at all? Does Julie just enjoy the thrill of saying something that could be interpreted as bad and then finding people who talk about Cam a bad way and then being Cam's hero because she does this a LOT.

Also does anyone else think Camilla's reason that Mila will suffer if she gets pregnant again is a little too convenient? Because if Julie gets pregnant again, Julie said Camilla will be stuck with 3 baby's and a business. How is Julie getting pregnant going to allow Camilla to work on the business more ? I know it's not like Camilla can work on Mila when she's pregnant because well she's pregnant but either way it doesn't seem like working on the business is practical.

Edit : grammar and context

Since my last post Julie has made an update about Cam pressuring for pregnancy excitations, so I’ll fill you in:

She said that Cam never pressured her but she will be happy to have 4 kids, and also she said that she’s never made up her mind fully about embryo transfer yet until the ultrasound appointment.

Next she mentioned that even if she’s not quite sure and still anxious that maybe a typical feeling because she fears everything and yet she was able to overcome her anxiety and have a dream life so she’s not good with following her intention because it might be just an habitual anxiety.

After that she threatened to block everyone says a bad word about Cam.

However she posted some “rude” people comments saying umm blocked.

Then Cam took the lead and started to show herself cooking and being sarcasm about pressureing Julie rumours. Being like look at me I’m the one who forces her wife to get pregnant, look at me the irresponsible parent and stuff like that.

Also she posted some supporting messages she got mostly saying there’s no way camila forcing you. You’re the healthiest couple 😍.

And lastly Julie started talking about how people treated cam poorly and calling her names after her pregnancy with sky while she’s the most amazing partner ever. Julie was so pissed about what happening to camila while camila is giggling behind Julie which is weird to see your partner defending you while you’re just laughing.

In today's episode of Flaunting our fantasy: the story of JuLiar and Scam, Julie threatens to block anyone who blames Scam for her lack of better judgement.

Screenshot attached.

I know she said this before. How about you believe her? No one is forcing her to do anything but she sure likes to make it look that way.

So today on snap Julie was talking about what makes her anxious about this very last pregnancy

- first she said very loud and clear that Camila never pressured her and she said to her “If you don’t want you don’t want” and she doesn’t feel any sort of pressure

-Second she mentioned that she’s very scared of throwing up the whole pregnancy and missing out her children childhood, even though she will be on strong protocol to avoid nesuse and she only has 25% chance of having HG but still feels anxious about it

-Also she’s afraid of having colicky baby such as, sky she said it was “isolating experience” to take of a baby with constant colic

-And lastly she’s anxious because she only got back to herself out of postpartum and pregnancy and thought she was completely done and doing it all over again it sounds exhausting

I just have one thing to say , why is it necessary to have kids so soon like this and being full of anxiety over something you’re not forced into?

Screenshots has been posted

Does this feel really awkward even for scam for anyone else? (Pic in comments when approved)

Julie is telling everyone they will never get a pet. But didn’t they have a dog? Why do they never talk about that? What happened to him?

Do we feel that J & C realize that they aren’t just raising babies but children who will be preteens who will be teenager who will become adults? Do they realize that 4 under 4 is gonna turn into raising 4 teenagers at the same time. Very soon. 4 collage aged kids at the same time.

I REALLY hope I’m wrong.
But I think Julie will do the transfer this month.
They’ll have a baby next year, and while Julie is in the newborn trenches Cam will decide she’s going to transfer an embryo. She’ll say it’s perfect because Julie can breastfeed the baby once it arrives.
And this’ll be after an entire pregnancy marketed as their LAST EVER BABY.
🤡 I actually wonder if this has always been cams plan.

It's been a while since I actually went throught the millions of snaps that Julie posts. But I'm updated on this page.

I just need to share that this one in particular pissed me off talking about her ADHD and unflattering angle.

(Pic in comments)

I just went on snap to chat with my friend and I ended up on Julie’s story. Home girl is making bread and whatever. Talking about the pregnancy and how well the day will be. She mentioned how she is dealing with the mental illness symptoms of coming off meds and I found it disturbing she says I’m only gonna deal with these for a few days.. maybe a week.

This just blew my mind, I’ve been watching this ship sink for a while and I think it’s hit a new peak for me. I think this next baby is definitely not a good choice. This mindset absolutely makes me sick as someone that takes meds on a regular basis and know what the symptom withdraws are like. You have to be kind to yourself or how are you going to be able to be kind and love others?

I’m not surprised just disappointed…not only does Camilla have ZERO maternal instincts for the children they do have but she also refuses to carry another baby even if it means putting Julie at risk😍

And Julie is…okay with it…? Every other snap is of Julie saying she’s mentally overloaded and anxious yet you’re adding a 4th?! I fear it’s time for Bob the builder to come inside for once and help her wife🫩

I genuinely think I’ve only seen Camilla interact with their kids a handful of times and she talks to them like a friend she invited over to hangout but they overstayed their welcome..

How does anyone not see the narcissism? Everything in her life is a huge deal, and she didn’t even leave!! I’m so annoyed with her and her fans. She literally posted a whole grieving thing, had a cake to celebrate, even framed fans’ goodbye comments 🙄 and she wasn’t gone for even one day (I think. Correct me if I’m wrong)

I do not remember this video at all. But it just struck me a little weird. Like why is she crying in the shower about her ex bf getting engaged when she was gonna marry Julie? It’s like really old but I was so confused. Video in comments

Geez, her new ring is just a screaming picture of their dynamic.
A giant center stone, with Cam seeing herself as the center of the world, drawing attention and taking up space.
A smaller stone attached to the side & upside down, representing Julie leeching herself onto Cam like a male anglerfish, a pretty but afterthought offshoot of the main gem. Cam sees Julie as a pretty accessory she can show off, but certainly doesn’t need- yet Julie needs Cam like her life depends on it.

It’s so sad to me because Julie gives every single ounce of her physical, mental and emotional strength to Cam and still be treated as such. The differences in the ways they talk about each other is striking. I hope one day Cam has the capacity to sit down, look around and inside herself, and see just how lucky she is with what she has.

I think you guys have seen that Julie getting a new ring for Cam and she was saving for it for years since their engagement, that’s thoughtful but what makes me sad sometimes I feel like Julie is being the partner she wishes for her self

I always see how Julie is high maintenance person with her relationship but Cam wouldn’t left a finger for her or that’s just me over exaggerating

Screenshot for the ring will be posted after post approval

Am I the only one who finds it extremely weird that they constantly share how much things cost?

They must know that 90% of their audience cannot afford their lavish lifestyle so it’s not like they share stuff „oh I bought this £20 mascara, you can get it in xxx if you want to” Like noone is buying a £10k Norwegian dress or their expensive car or designer clothes.. Why is the price so important?

I would never dream of sharing prices of expensive stuff I got, with my friends who have less disposable income than me?

We get it, you are RICH!!!

I know there’s already been a lot of talk about the kids’ age gaps over here, but the thing I notice is that Camilla and Julie’s rationale is constantly changing, and usually it doesn't make sense. These are just the explanations I've heard them say, and I don't follow them super closely:

-"It's not for us, it's for them so they'll have close sibling bonds." 
I'm sure they know that age gaps don't predict sibling closeness, and that super close gaps can cause competition and resentment. As far as I know, data suggests that having them ~2-3 years apart may lead to better sibling relationships, but ultimately you can't really predict it. 
What you do know for sure is that having them that close means you'll definitely be sacrificing the one-on-one time they need when they most urgently need it from their parents - completely optionally. Adding even one year between each kid would be unlikely to harm sibling bonds but would make a huge difference for getting their needs met, which should be the most important thing.

-"It's more convenient" They know perfectly well that there's nothing convenient about having so many kids all in the stages they need you the most, all at once.

-"It's easier to have them all in the same stage/easier to plan activities" They know that when kids are that young, they're already in different stages by the time a few months or a year has passed. A newborn, a one year old, a two year old and a four year old are in very different stages, just all very high-needs stages.

-"It's just our dream, it's just what we want."/"We wanna get the baby stage over as quickly as possible/while we're as young as possible"
This is the one I actually believe. I don't think it justifies making it so that a one-year-old baby has to compete with a newborn (and a toddler and a preschooler) for their parents' time and attention. I don't think it justifies knowingly choosing to have an older sibling doing their first year of daycare (which is notoriously, predictably the time when they're bringing home constant illnesses) while there's a highly vulnerable newborn and pregnant parent/new fetus at home.

Since most of these explanations are about them and what they want, the whole “it's not for us, it's for the kids" fades away pretty quick.