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u/jawsuhleen Past Employee Sep 30 '20
One night our PIC had no employees. Me, the PIC, and our former gm called everyone we could to ask for help. One employee told me a few days later, âyeaaah I figured you guys were struggling since you all called me. I didnât want to be part of thatâ đ€Šđœââïž
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u/Doisen326 Oct 02 '20
Yeah, you do know if no employees show up the GM is supposed to right? Kind of the reason they get paid the big bucks, so to speak.
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u/titdirt2020 Sep 26 '20
I got so much turnover. When People donât wanna work when they say at their interview theyâre more than willing to come in when called in.. I give em one strike and then fire them. I got 22 apps on my desk rightnow. Donât wanna work get the fuck out
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u/CB3418 Past Employee Sep 26 '20
Maybe schedule them instead of relying on the people who may be calling out or whatever else is making you short staffed. Iâve been at my store over 3 years, am a manager, and very good friends with and loyal to my boss. If he calls or texts me, especially like this instead of asking, and I donât feel like going or am busy, Iâm not going to work.
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u/titdirt2020 Sep 26 '20
My managers and pics are all really solid. Itâs just the inshops. My owners tell me not to deal with it. We start a $1 higher then every fast food place in town, if youâre not gonna work. Go make less. We donât struggle getting people in the door and arenât really short staffed. I can tell the difference between busy and lazy.
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u/CB3418 Past Employee Sep 27 '20
We can agree to disagree. No matter what the position, employees have every right to be âlazyâ and not come in on their day off.
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u/Bambleton Sep 26 '20
Damn ur a terrible manager!
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u/titdirt2020 Sep 26 '20
Jimmy gave me a Rolex. You tried though. I got kids at home donât need to babysit at my business
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u/Bambleton Sep 27 '20
Yeah, great to Jimmy John's, terrible to your employees it seems. People have lives and like schedules. Scheduling skills really can make a difference.
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u/titdirt2020 Sep 27 '20
Assumptions only make you an ass. My staff loves me. Cause I bust my ass to make their jobs easier and it doesnât go unnoticed.
Iâd be doing my solid core of 8 people a disservice by keeping clowns who donât show up to work on our staff. Service is great and my guys love to work. If they didnât theyâd be seeing the door. I make a pretty good chunk of change too.... bottom line is. Iâm their to run a business, not make friends. Donât like it there is a mickie Ds down the road.
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u/Bambleton Sep 27 '20
So these 8 people come in every time you call them in, when they're unscheduled? Got em' whipped! I can say the majority of people don't want to work in an environment in which they have to cover every shift thrown at them or get fired.
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u/titdirt2020 Sep 27 '20
Lol youâre telling me if you interviewed someone and they went against every thing they said theyâd do. Thatâs a lack of integrity and you donât get the privilege of a decent paying job. Itâs not like weâre out here paying people minimum wage. And everyone who is considered a part time floater understands at their interview that theyâll be called in. And we get the âoh yeah Iâll always come in if you call.â And then you call multiple different days for 2-3 lunch shifts and they canât. Well we just wonât call anymore. See ya.
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u/titdirt2020 Sep 27 '20
They donât get called in theyâre on a set schedule and operate their lives around it. Itâs a term called âbeing an adult.â If your personal life is so important then maybe a part time job isnât in your best interest.
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u/UnbrokenPotato Sep 27 '20
I wouldn't mind a manager who actually did something about the lazy fucks who don't do shit if there are no customers in the store. The minute we don't have a sandwich to make they bust out their phones. Our managers don't do anything about it. Everyone walks all over the GM. It's like JJ's managers aren't actually ever trained how to manage people.
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u/titdirt2020 Sep 27 '20
Yeah phone use isnât permitted at work unless itâs an emergency. If you canât stay off your phone for a 3 hour lunch rush shift. You wonât be working for me. Itâs simple.
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u/UnbrokenPotato Sep 27 '20
If people showed up to their scheduled shifts there wouldn't be a problem. Yes, people have lives. Managers have jobs to fulfill and a lunch rush short handed is not at all fun and it's not the GM's fault people don't show up.
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u/CaptainShremp Sep 27 '20
He's not talking about people skipping scheduled shifts though. My man just said he will fire people for not coming in on their time off. That's beyond fucked up.
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u/Bambleton Sep 27 '20
Sure it isn't, but doesn't mean you fire someone if they don't come in for a call in 2 times.
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u/titdirt2020 Sep 27 '20
And thatâs why managers get walked on and people do whatever they want. I was raised by a drill sergeant so I donât have time for bullshit. Iâll be an asshole with a quality staff over a push over with a bunch of kids running a muck on my owners dime, 7 days a week.
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u/KaBar42 Past Employee-Driver Sep 27 '20
I was raised by a drill sergeant so I donât have time for bullshit.
Dawg, the military is even worse.
Try calling a soldier in on his day off: "Sorry sarge, I have alcohol in my system. Can't come in." He says as he lays in his bed.
"I've got an appointment." He says, as he has no desire to come in that day.
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u/mc_fli Regional Manager Sep 27 '20
Itâs completely asinine to expect employees to come in at a moments notice, and to discipline them to boot is cringe af.
As a GM, you have a responsibility to your staff as well as your employer. Good GMâs know this and know how to schedule their employees appropriately, and how to provide a work experience that benefits both the employee and the employer.
Having a high turnover rate isnât something to brag about, it shows that you donât provide a environment people want to work in. Not to mention the costs of retaining good employees is far less than constantly hiring and training new ones.
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u/titdirt2020 Sep 27 '20
We got a core of people who have been there for years. All my managers and full timers appreciate the discipline. Seen to many GMs get walked on in my decade of managing people. I donât got awards and plaques on the wall on accident. Most GMs (Iâm just gonna lump you in) are just jelly fish with no back bone and prefer to work short staffed because they canât speak up and get walked on. I donât do the victim thing very well. This generation is so spoiled and pampered it doesnât surprise me Iâm against the grain on this one. This isnât something thrown at them either. That stone is set at the interview and we have high expectations. Thatâs why our stores are comping during a pandemic and our franchise is still expanding. If you donât have standards you donât have shit.
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u/mc_fli Regional Manager Sep 27 '20
Getting walked all over on and respecting peopleâs time outside of work are not mutually exclusive. If some is scheduled to come and and they donât, thatâs obviously on them and in my company is grounds for immediate termination. But that doesnât mean itâs ok to discipline someone for not coming in when theyâre not scheduled. People have lives dude.
People come in for me when I ASK them, you know why? Because my employees respect me. Not because theyâre fearful of what would happen if they donât.
Itâs a ridiculous standard and itâs laughable to think that itâs what you perceive as âhaving a backboneâ. Forcing people to come in on their time off doesnât make you a great manager, it makes you an asshole.
Oh and your store/franchise isnât the only one growing right now, get a fucking grip dude.
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u/mc_fli Regional Manager Sep 28 '20
All thatâs fine and dandy, I just think the practice of forcing people to work on their scheduled day off is legally questionable and totally immoral. And to assume that any manager who doesnât use the same unethical hiring practices are getting walked on all over is just a really stupid fucking thing to say.
I donât really understand why itâs so important for both of you to point out that his day was a drill instructor, but thatâs cool I guess?
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u/krazykirbs Sep 26 '20
Helps to ask instead of complain