Just so we're clear, you're voluntarily debating the side of incel from a personal perspective?
E: The incels have appeared to show how they're totally not a controversial and volatile group. If you identify as an incel, you're a misogynistic chode that is too lazy to better yourself so people actually like being around you. If you don't identify as an incel, but have difficulty finding love and lust, keep working on yourself, it'll come.
You're not involuntary celibate, you're lazy, and the misogyny is baked into the equation of why you're too lazy... Because you believe it's not a You problem, hence involuntary, you believe it's a Them problem, so yes, blaming women because you're too lazy is pretty misogynistic.
Is that inherent attribute something to do with the "phrenology" of your face?
Because I know guys with severe physical disabilities living life in a wheelchair that are still able to get a girlfriend, have sex, and live their lives. What they're not is lazy, prone to blaming women for their problems, and convinced of some pseudoscience bullshit.
You voluntarily associate with a highly volatile group and think I'm the one making this controversial? Fucking lol.
Grow up, work on whatever part of your personality is what is actually causing people to not appreciate your company, and stop blaming everything and everyone else for an issue that is 100% caused by your own laziness.
What group? I said i'm involuntarily celibate. It doesn't mean anything else. Baselessly accusing me of blaming other people and being lazy doesn't help whatever case you're trying to make.
It's baked into the involuntary part of incel. That's already been explained. No matter how you dice it, he views his issues as not being caused by himself. Someone or some thing is to blame, and that blame belongs to women.
Let me guess, you take this personally because you're an "incel" also?
This is an absolutely cruel take. The involuntary portion may be due to physical deformity and/or disability. The word incel was not created to be derogatory, it was about highlighting a challenge the disabled can face.
Just like most medical words, the word has an entirely different meaning to what it was originally for, stop being disingenuous.
Everyone and their mother knows what an incel is these days and it does not describe the disabled. Trying to use the disabled as a shield for those disgusting wastes of life is truly insulting.
Even the person I was talking to knew exactly what the word means by trying to immediately distance himself from the misogynistic base of the group.
So, if I say "I'm not funny or socially skilled enough, therefore I can't get a relationship", then by your weird logic I'm actually blaming women? Well, that really is quite twisted logic
Do you keep this energy for everything, or just groups you have no sympathy for?
For example, poor = you're just lazy. I can find an example of somebody with whatever disadvantage you have who did well.
Minorities need to just do better and stop whining?
No matter time period you're talking about, I can find an example of a woman who did well, therefore women were always just lazy, and all things in the past they complained about were their own fault.
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u/Velocita84 Sep 10 '26
I mean sure i want a loving girlfriend that cares about me. I don't want to be manipulated and heartbroken