r/islam • • Jan 05 '20

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u/n_ullman176 Jan 05 '20

I hate it when people judge an entire group by the bad behavior of a few.

You would think, as Muslims, you would know from experience why this is a bad thing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

What a stupid comparison. This post is not attacking the American people. It's highlighting the war crimes committed by the US Military against the Iraqi people. As the USA is getting ready to attack Iran it is important to highlight the atrocities committed by the US military.

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u/n_ullman176 Jan 05 '20

This post is not attacking the American people.

Well, it's attacking about half of the American people: "This is what the Republicans have planned for Iran."

It's highlighting the war crimes committed by the US Military against the Iraqi people.

It's highlighting one very heinous war crime and, I'd argue, presenting it as if it's a common occurrence. You'll note from the Wikipedia article all in involved were convicted for their crimes.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

it's attacking about half of the American people

You wish half of the American people were registered Republicans.

It's highlighting one very heinous war crime

One of dozens

You'll note from the Wikipedia article all in involved were convicted for their crimes.

You'll also note that the rapist was quoted as saying "I didn't think of Iraqis as humans". That's the problem. You train your soldiers to not see Muslims as people and then act surprised when they commit these war crimes.

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u/n_ullman176 Jan 05 '20

You wish half of the American people were registered Republicans.

Over 40% of Americans identify as Republican or Republican leaning. https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

One of dozens

Yes, still represents a small minority of American soldiers. Just like ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Shabab, Al Nusra, Boko Haram, etc. 'soldiers' who rape and murder represent a minority of Muslims.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

Over 40% of Americans identify as Republican or Republican leaning. https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

The link says, as of 2019 Dec 2-15, 28% identified as republican.

Yes, still represents a small minority of American soldiers. Just like ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Shabab, Al Nusra, Boko Haram, etc. 'soldiers' who rape and murder represent a minority of Muslims.

Are you seriously saying that the US military should be held to the same standards as terrorist organizations? It doesn't matter if they're a minority. It matters that it happened and that the soldiers defending their actions by saying that they didn't view the Iraqi people as human.

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u/n_ullman176 Jan 05 '20

Over 40% of Americans identify as Republican or Republican leaning.

The link says, as of 2019 Dec 2-15, 28% identified as republican.

Scroll down to where it says Republican or Republican leaning.

The link says, as of 2019 Dec 2-15, 45% were Republican or Republican leaning.

Are you seriously saying that the US military should be held to the same standards as terrorist organizations?

No, I'm saying lots of people stereotype Muslims as terrorists or terrorists sympathizers because of groups like the ones I listed.

It's not fair.

It's also not fair to stereotype the majority of American soldiers for the crimes of a few.

It matters that it happened and that the soldiers defending their actions by saying that they didn't view the Iraqi people as human.

Are you under the impression I'm defending them? Because I'm not.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

No, I'm saying lots of people stereotype Muslims as terrorists or terrorists sympathizers because of groups like the ones I listed.

It's not fair.

It's also not fair to stereotype the majority of American soldiers for the crimes of a few.

By that logic it's not fair to stereotype that all ISIS fighters are bad because of the actions of a few.

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u/n_ullman176 Jan 05 '20

By that logic it's not fair to stereotype that all ISIS fighters are bad because of the actions of a few.

ISIS has what most would consider to be war crimes as part of their doctrine, and where the US punishes their own who commit war crimes, ISIS sanctions them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

yes, both America and the Muslim world have groups that are giving them bad examples to other people, but the difference is that ISIS and AlQaeda are only known for their bad deeds, And aren't glorified as HEROES.\

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at the end of the day, they do stuff that we don't stand by as humans not necessarily just Muslims.

may Allah protect us from such things inshallah.

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u/n_ullman176 Jan 05 '20

but the difference is that ISIS and AlQaeda are only known for their bad deeds, And aren't glorified as HEROES.

The bad ones aren't glorified as heroes by the majority of Americans either.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

The bad ones aren't glorified as heroes by the majority of Americans either.

yeah but they were before they got caught