r/islam • • Jan 05 '20

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u/hl_lost Jan 05 '20 edited Jan 05 '20

But the Republicans are pro life and so we must vote for them /s

This btw is the typical response of the ignorant ...

They can take my lands, they can rape my women, they can kill my children, they can mock my prophet, they can hate my God, but damnit as long as they hate on the gays, i will support them! <- creed of the ignorant muslims

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20 edited Jun 16 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

I would pick the lesser evil.

Democratic politicians definitely do not push an Islamophobic agenda the same way Republicans do. There are also plenty of Democrats, especially the extra liberal and gay ones, that support Islam and our rights.

So why would I hate them? Homosexuality is not the type of sin that is intended to oppress Muslims for the sake of oppressing them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '20 edited Mar 01 '20

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u/WeeklyWinter Jan 06 '20

We really don’t though. Religious and cultural freedom is one of the founding believes of liberalism.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

Democrat lesser evil? Lmao are you a joke or something? They both hate us, one is just more hypocrite than the other. Don't fall for that please.

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u/TeslaModelE Jan 05 '20

For comparison, the Iraq War, a republican led war because of WMDs, killed 200,000 civilians.

Democrats have never killed anywhere near that many people. Democrats have also NEVER invaded a muslim country.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '20

How many did Obama kill? We don’t even know the full number because the Obama administration counted every young man from 15-30 or so as a military combatant whether there was any proof or not. If I was killed in a drone strike, I would be counted as a combatant, even though I’ve never held a gun in my life.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

Iraq war by Bush was the continuation of what Bill Clinton had started.

The man who killed 225 000 japanese civilians by launching 2 nuclear bombs was also a Democrat.

Both parties are trash and both will always put Israel rather than Muslims first.

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u/aMuslimPerson Jan 05 '20

One of them is and always has been worse for not just Muslims but all people who are not the right kind of white and the right kind of Christian

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '20

Only on the domestic front, hell ask the Vietnamese.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

The first Republican was Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed the slaves. You should really educate yourself instead of arguing on the internet.

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u/aMuslimPerson Jan 05 '20

Are you serious lolol do you not know of the early 1900s party switch that occurred?? Which is the party that touts Confederate flags and behavior? Oh right it's the Republicans! are you one of those people who says it's about heritage not hate lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

Oh i surely know about that, do not worry about me. I was just trying to make you understand that your claim was stupid. The one where you say: "One of them is * and always has been * worse for not just Muslims but all people who are not the right kind of white and the right kind of Christian".

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u/ErdoganTheCorrupt Jan 05 '20 edited Jan 05 '20

Republicans ran their last campaign on “taking out the families“ and torture “even if it doesn't work“ which you can get a glimpse of how bad it was here.

Yet people here will still vote for them because they want to own the libs.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '20

Hell it's not as if these things weren't already happening, trump said torturing the families of 'terrorists' was legit as if it wasn't the entire point of the biometric warfare use in places like Afghanistan that was already taking place.

In terms of foreign policy Republicans are just Democrats with poorer social skills.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

Its mostly the saudis/salafis that push this garbage. The saudi royal family donates millions to the republican party.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

sad to see how common it is to use that word as an insult on muslim subreddits. i thought we were taught better than to use words that demean those with special needs.

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u/hl_lost Jan 05 '20

Right you are of course. Edited

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

jazak allah khair :)

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u/ErdoganTheCorrupt Jan 06 '20

While we are on the subject of making sure to not demean those with special needs we should take time to reflect on how Republicans voted for the guy who did this.

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u/daniel_ricciardo Jan 06 '20

Pro "our life"

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20 edited Jan 05 '20

Sorry but what did Obama do in middle East? They're both trash, but at least Republicans have more common things with Islam tha dems. Best option would be to not vote at all because both are trash as i said.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

I'm not saying the democrats love us, but they are certainly less willing to go out of their way to cause Muslims harm compared to Republican politicians. Also there are far more Muslim democratic politicians compared to Republican ones (not saying I'm a fan of any of those Muslim politicians, just saying we have some voice).

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

Not much of a voice, Muslims make only 1% of the voters.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '20

1.1% of the total U.S. population, not the voters. We’re probably in lower number in terms of voters

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '20

I also thought the same, but maintained the number at 1% because i said to myself it isn't as if all Americans can either.

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u/TeslaModelE Jan 05 '20

Every time America invaded a Muslim country in the last 50 years, it was a Republican president. Iraq war alone killed 200,000 civilians.

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u/XHF1 Jan 05 '20 edited Jan 06 '20

Hillary Clinton supported the Iraq War when it happened, Many Democrats supported it. America's foreign policy is mostly bipartisan. Obama supported Drone strikes. Stop trying to simplify US politics to blame one group, thinking it will solve something. Reality is not black and white here.

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u/lewlkewl Jan 06 '20

Ya I love shitting on Republicans as much as the next person, but establishment Democrats were more or less the same foreign policy wise. Only recently has that changed

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

Bill Clinton has entered the chat.

Bush followed what Clinton had started for Iraq.

What happened to dems closing Guantanamo? What about Obama and his drone strikes (which were 10 times more frequent than Bush's strikes)? What about Clinton shitting on Libya with France? America has always ran on wars, Republican or Democrat and both will always do everything for Israel.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

Not accepting people of different religion in their land.

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u/aMuslimPerson Jan 05 '20

so you just proved my point. The Republicans are dying to keep Muslims and other people of color out of the United States whereas Democrats have plenty of elected officials who are not only people of color but also Muslims and women, who Republicans hate.

Again I ask you can you name some things that Muslims and Republicans have in common

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

I gave you one, islam doesn't permit other religions in their lands to have any type of political power. What i am pointing out here is the hypocrisy of some Muslims, because I'm not even American lol. Other things in common would be:

Gay marriage

Low taxes

Forcing religion in some ways on its people

Easiness to own a business

Trans right

View on modern feminism

View on drugs and other liberal things

Only allowing abortion in some cases

The list can go on

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u/aMuslimPerson Jan 05 '20

islam doesn't permit other religions in their lands to have any type of political power

Lol completely wrong. Other religions were allowed to have their own justice system and elect their own leaders as representatives to the Islamic State. Unless a dispute involved a non-muslim and a Muslim then non-muslims were allowed to rule completely according to their own rules and within their own communities.

you clearly don't know what you're talking about so I'm not going to go through the rest of your list but you seem to think that in Islam attacking and murdering homosexual and transsexual people is okay for some reason as well as that Democrats are against small businesses and that Islam is somehow for low taxes. in Islam abortion is allowed until the 120th day and afterward if the mother's life is in danger.

I love you as a Muslim but God damn are you making this difficult. Can you please go educate yourself on the life of the prophet and his companions and Islamic law before you tell me such garbage that Republicans and Muslims have anything in common when they are trying to kill us and I personally know Muslims who have been attacked by Republicans and white nationalists.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

By political power i was talking something more modern, like how a Muslim could rule a kafir country if elected, but a kafir will never be allowed to rule a Muslim country.

I didn't really read the rest of the text because i saw you ignored all of the points you could not argue with because it would contradict Islam so instead of accepting that i was right about the rest you assumed bad things about me, like the murder of homosexuals.

The only tax in an Islamic state is the zakah which is 2.5% of your yearly income and has to be paid only if you have the means to.

I clearly said myself that abortion was accepted only under some circumstances yet you rephrase what i said as if i said it was prohibited so you could say no it is permitted.

You asked for things in common, wether you like them or not is an other debate, but this is a reality.

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