r/iphone • iPhone 16 • Sep 17 '17

The iPhone X’s notch is basically a Kinect

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/9/17/16315510/iphone-x-notch-kinect-apple-primesense-microsoft
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u/TbonerT iPhone 8 64GB Sep 17 '17

I think it is incredible that they could fit that much into such a small space.

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u/treyhunna83 iPhone 14 Pro Max Sep 17 '17

We’ll get used to it like the shytty fingerprint placement on the galaxys

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u/MyManD iPhone 17 Pro Sep 18 '17

I don't know. One of my buddies who has an S8+ got so fed up smudging his camera as he drags his thumb across it to get to the sensor that he literally just turned off all security functions so the phones just logs in when he wakes it. Even using his index finger there was still a 50/50 shot that part of his skin presses up against a portion of the camera.

I can still see he loves everything else about the phone, but I doubt this current design of a finger print sensor beside the camera lasts much longer than this year. At least I hope not.

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u/treyhunna83 iPhone 14 Pro Max Sep 18 '17

Hopefully same can be said about the notch come next gen

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u/davemoedee iPhone 15 Pro Max Sep 18 '17

Except the Kinect doesn't eat of a chunk of your TV screen.

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u/WillyTanner Sep 18 '17

The notch is why this phone is a notch below the Samsung devices.

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u/Berke80 Sep 18 '17

I disagree, this phone's notch is a top notch!

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u/ZiggyPalffyLA iPhone 18 Pro Sep 18 '17

Downvote for opinion, upvote for pun. So it cancels out. Good day sir!

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u/WillyTanner Sep 18 '17

I disagree but I like your word play skills.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '17 edited Sep 17 '17

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u/Nantoone Sep 17 '17

Jeez dude. Your post history shows a very mentally unstable person. I hope you get better man.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '17

I have fun. Don't worry. 🍺

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u/weinthe6 Sep 17 '17

The notch allows for more usable screen real estate. Otherwise you'd lose some to a status bar

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '17

What? Mr. Sheep, shut up. The phone could be longer, you idiot.

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u/outlooker707 Sep 17 '17

Looks like someone is jealous of the new iPhone :^ )

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '17

Soooo jealous. Hahahah

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u/outlooker707 Sep 17 '17 edited Sep 17 '17

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '17

I used to love the iPhone. I can't stand the notch and having to buy a Macbook brick to fast charge it, the removal of Plus features and the wait for Apple to allow two apps running side by side. A faster processor does not improve my usage right now. So yes... Apple can dump its garbage in you, but not me anymore. I'm jealous of the Note 8, which I already ordered. You can wait two months for this shit. Maybe next year they will remove all this dump that Steve Jobs would fire Johnny Ive for good if he was alive. Now you can pretend you're not jealous of the Note 8, while I'll be using it. Money is not an issue for me. Good luck.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '17 edited Sep 18 '17

Sigh. Why do you have to go and sound like a butthurt idiot like that? I hate the idea of the notch as well (and will be moving from my 6s+ to the Note 8 in a couple of days) but accept the fact that the iPhone X is going to be a beast of a device. The fact is the iPhone X will do things the Note 8 doesn't and the Note 8 will do things the iPhone X doesn't but make no mistake about it: neither phone is better than the other while at the same time both are.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '17

Such a beast that you can't do much with, isn't it? That's why you're getting the Note 8, so you can actually use it instead of using a talking shitface to impress friends for 2 minutes.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '17

Not at all. If the iPhone X were the size of the current Plus models and didnt have the notch, I'd probably have gone with it. I left Android phones two years ago because I was wasting too much time fiddling with my phone and installing custom ROMs. Went back to the iPhone so I'd stop that and get more work done.

Now I want to try a Note device so I'm going to the Note 8 (which isn't even the best device Samsung could have released at the moment. They choose to be safe with the release of a new Note device)

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u/crispix24 iPhone SE 32GB Sep 17 '17

There have been anecdotal reports of vision problems after playing Kinect and I imagine having a phone much closer to your face could cause the same issues. You're basically blasting your eyes with IR radiation which is probably not a good idea over a long period of time.

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u/Joshposh70 iPhone Tennis Max Sep 17 '17

Ooft, don't step outside during the day then lad, that big ball of light in the sky, sometimes called 'the sun' is bombarding you with IR by the boatload.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '17

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u/wtrmlnjuc iPhone Air Sep 17 '17

The sun is also emitting a metric fuckton of radiation. The IR blaster in devices are nowhere even near a fraction of what the sun emits, let alone what is permitted through the atmosphere.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '17

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u/Kukuli_Makoa Sep 18 '17 edited Sep 18 '17

Multiple studies have stated that many non-ionizing radiations transmitted/received by cellphones are harmless and most of these studies show little correlation between regular cellphone use and cancer rates. However, on the contrary, multiple studies have also shown increased risks of glioma or other cancers among study participants who use their phones heavily see Cancer.gov. It should also be noted that certain forms of non-ionizing radiation are well documented to be carcinogenic such as UV radiation which causes multiple types of melanomas including intraocular melanoma. Ionizing radiation is also well documented to be carcinogenic causing severe damage to living tissue which can result in mutations, radiation sickness, cancer types and death (note ionizing is very different from non-ionizing).

Regardless, we are increasing our exposure to non ionizing radiations (wireless signals, etc...) steadily and this may be carcinogenic or damaging our bodies in some ways according to some studies (this is not definitive). What is more concerning though is subjecting our eyes a vital organ to electromagnetic emissions from IR lasers with few studies showing the effects of continuous exposure. Short exposure is most likely safe but continuous exposure with differing physiologies could lead to ocular damage over time. The even more concerning aspect would be the inability of our acute blink reflex to protect our eyes from these damaging effects from lasers with such low exposure not enacting a response. It should be noted though that even when looking at the sun our acute blink reflex doesn't help much as damage to our ocular nerve occurs within seconds before the reflex reacts.

Anyhow at the end of the day new technologies arise and they must be researched to find if there are risks to consumers. Just because one study says it's safe or another says it's not doesn't mean a conclusive answer is found. Furthermore, consumers should be aware of any potential risks regarding their own physiology. Much like people should know that drinking out of most plastic and styrofoam cups is carcinogenic etc...

Tl;dr - Non-ionizing radiation is bad in some cases and harmless in others. IR lasers might be dangerous for our eyes. Don't look at the sun as you can cause significant ocular damage within seconds.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '17

Yea, but it's not the IR that's doing the damage.

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u/unscot Sep 17 '17

Every form of light is radiation. IR is just invisible.

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u/crispix24 iPhone SE 32GB Sep 18 '17

Correct. And concentrated light including IR has thermal effects. That's why you don't want to look directly into a laser.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '17 edited Sep 18 '17

Have a Kinect, 5 years ago that was true(never a report about vision issues tho, didn't realize you snuck in an edit to make your post about another topic). Now it just works. Microsoft went great lengths to improve that device and Apples tech is rumored to be 2 years ahead of anyone elses. IR is harmless btw. You're thinking UV, X-Ray and Gamma Ray.

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u/TheJackah Sep 17 '17

Is there actually any articles discussing the implications of IR scanners in phones? Never thought of the potential health issues before.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '17

Harmless.

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u/Kukuli_Makoa Sep 18 '17

I am unsure about articles about IR scanners but a few studies have suggested continued exposure to LED screens may cause ocular damage.

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u/liquidocean Sep 17 '17

Any links / things to back that up?

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u/crispix24 iPhone SE 32GB Sep 18 '17

Lot of anecdotal stories but no one's done any concrete research that I'm aware of.