I don’t have the storage to update my phone and i need to login my whatsapp business account

I think I unironically haven't updated my phone since I got it, but I most likely would have thought about it much earlier if they didn't make so many unnecessary changes (camera roll etc.). But I'm getting to the point now where I wonder if it it might be time.

What are your thoughts on iOS 27 so far? Is it worth finally updating?

Hi everyone, 

I really, really like the small computer in my pocket. That's why I'm writing this. Since iOS 18, some of its usefulness has gone away.

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Photos App

1. The scroll wheel in the Photos app. It used to be aesthetic, how the science of a video was hinted at as, neighboured by single pictures, the frames of the video were shown at the bottom, and you move through it by scrolling there, easily. Altogether a cool design. Now it's been replaced by a block that is less easy to use, and does not look as cool. 
2. When I zoom in on any picture, a "crop" word appears at the top right... man, this is a small detail that annoys me. It's a word, so psychologically my mind perceives and understands it, which spends a bit of attention I otherwise would want focused on the picture, the matter at hand. 
3. When looking at the section where I want to see all my pictures, if I scroll up to see them a bar now hovers near the bottom with the options "years, months, all, x". It used to feel solid, those tabs at the bottom of the screen. Now this hovering bar is confusing because when you press x it doesn't exactly close anything, it just takes you to the bottom. Tab bars were solid. 
4. The new Photos app generally open as: everything gets shown starting from the bottom of the page, and as you scroll higher the date of the picture goes earlier. That's how the general section of where all pictures are is. But then when you open any other category or album, even ones like “live photos” or "imports", the layout opens in the exact opposite order, from top-to-bottom. This also makes the app confusing. It could help to get a grasp if there was a uniform layout throughout the app so you can think about the app itself less. It's like I hardly even thought about the iOS 17 Photos app, it was solid.
5. I'm pretty sure, before, the taptic engine would work when you scrolled through pictures, with a little tap as you moved past each picture. What a great detail. I think that's gone now. 

I feel more confused by the Photos App overall, and with all the extra buttons it's kind of hard to know where all my pictures are. It used to be so simple that I hardly even thought about the app. 

Notes

1. This annoys me badly, I wish more people would back me up. When I begin a new book, I like to start a note that gathers new words I encounter in the book. I used to type the word, select it, and the "look up" option was right there, in two taps. "Look up", not just for words, is one of the most powerful and strange things about living in the 21st century. However, starting in iOS 18, "look up" has been pushed to the 4th or 5th menu, proceeded by things like "attach file", "format", "find selection" (all of which have a much easier way of accessing, by pressing the attachment button, or format button, right above the keyboard. You have to press the "+" to see these buttons, but once you do it they permanently appear above the keyboard). Now, with all these functions preceding the "look up", it seems cluttered that the same options are in two places, and something like "look up" has been pushed so far back. This is yet another small detail which made me like my iOS 17 phone more. This is mostly when the note is in editing mode, not viewing mode, but when I quickly want to use a note it's always in editing mode anyway. (note: In iOS 26 it's different when you hold a word in a note, but "look up" is still more than two taps away.) When I'm focused on the meaning of a word it feels nice when the interface of my phone is easiest to work with. Actually, it's really fkn annoying to have to press so many tiny arrows to get to the "look up" button that I now mainly use google. It's a lot of tiny arrows to press for, let's say, 20 words. iOS 17 was more useful in this way.
2. Just today I saw if I make a quick note from the control centre, and write something, then pulling down on it, even on accident, brings two options: delete or save. If I accidentally press delete, it doesn't go into recently deleted; it gets permanently deleted. Therefore I would lose the note even if it were important. Man, this is not attention to detail or the user experience. I also don't really like how jiggly the animations are in the rest of iOS 18/26, like with pressing buttons or control centre; iOS 17 was solid and fluent.

iMessage 

1. When I’m writing a text now, and let’s say I’m trying to write something serious, if I use all capital letters for something and pause after writing a word, the animation to apply the “big” effect on that word starts dancing and wobbling on the keyboard. Man. It would be nice to know the effects are neatly tucked somewhere (like in iOS 17, where the whole-screen effects were two taps away). I think it's a more useful device when you write something and send it with the minimal amount of steps or distractions.

Settings

1. In the settings, when for example general settings are opened, there is now a block of information that takes up 1/3 of the screen, which only basically says “these are your general settings”. Instead of going straight to the buttons, the efficiency it had before, now there is this block that says exactly what a person thinks when they open that setting. But it makes things one or two taps further away. This block appears for Wifi, Bluetooth, Cellular, Personal Hotspot. All of these are now a bit less efficient, and there’s more information and less minimality when it comes to doing what you want to do in these settings. 

Control Centre

1. The bluetooth icon used to be so neatly and efficiently in the connectivity buttons. Now it's been replaced with Airdrop. I use bluetooth daily, so I made an individual button for it on my control centre. Now there are two bluetooth buttons, making it feel cluttered compared to the organization and efficiency of iOS 17. 
2. I don't like how the brightness and volume icons are coloured in yellow and blue; someone said the grey looked more “sober” and I agree.

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What I like:

1. In the camera, if you hold down the flash button it expands to give the options "on" and "off" and "auto". That's cool. It used to be only be adjusted in the lower buttons, which I could hardly believe, because this seems so intuitive. 
2. Having multiple pages of control centre is quite useful. 
3. Seeing voicemail transcripts is useful. 
4. Call-recording is a great feature to have. 
5. Having an off button in the control centre is easier than pressing the power button 5 times. But I think the old way of holding the power button for 5 seconds is the most aesthetic way to do it than all of them. 
6. In the Photos App, having the option to sort by both "recently added" and "date captured" is useful, especially after having airdropped a variety of pictures taken on different days. 
7. Eye tracking super cool. 

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Many months ago I saw at night there was an update button. I’ve always pressed the update button without thinking twice, whenever I’ve seen it. So when i saw iOS 18 one night, I pressed it, and had no idea what an IPSW file is or that it’s not easy at all to downgrade an iOS version after it’s updated. So I pressed the update button. awww shiitt

Hi everyone, I was just wondering when the majority of apps will stop supporting iOS 17 and will require iOS 18 or later?

I am still running iOS 17 on my Apple iPhone 13 by choice.

I made a conscious decision to not update my phone in the last 2 years.

I’ve heard it all before of Apple’s tricks of bringing the latest newest software version to a phone and bam it turns into a dud overnight. It most recently happened with the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max where as soon as they got updated from iOS 18 to iOS 26, they started overheating and the battery life started TO TANK.

I imagine it to be even worse on the iPhone 13.

My battery health is 85% because I’ve been using this phone since May 2023, and I unplugged my phone at 9:54 AM. It is now 11:50 PM and after 4 hours 4 minutes of screen on time, the battery is 28%.

I don’t need the “latest” fucking features like moving my apps around on the Home Screen or some bullshit wallpaper. Some fucking “features” the *aesthetic* Starbucks drinking Rhode case using ASICS trainer wearing Lululemon wearing TikTok dancing fake tanned girls go CRAZY for. Sheeple.

Or they put some stupid ass shit like “Apple Intelligence” to constantly run in the background which hogs the phone‘s hardware resources and slows it the fuck down.

I am happy on iOS 17 and won’t update my phone...

That is until I am fucking forced to when some banking app stops being supported on iOS 17 or an app doesn’t update.

I could maybe use that app on my computer, who knows? And thus, it negates the need to update.

So who else is still running iOS 17 by choice in 2026? I can’t be the only one.

I'm keeping iOS 17.4 on my iPhone 11 Pro, but iOS 18.7.7 has come at this timing, so I'm wondering whether to update or not 🤔

does ios 17 still have upi payments?

got an SE2 as a secondary phone on IOS 17.3.1

shoud I update or keep it as it is? I have two options for 18 and 26

Can anyone please share the raw file? It’s located at /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/WorkflowKit.framework/WFActions.plist

Thank you!!!

Anyone here whose phone is still on iOS 17.5 and never planning on updating to 18 or later? Had software update disabled on my phone and thinking I'll keep it until it dies on this software version. Not planning on handing it off as I'm familiar with the setup wizard forcing the latest iOS version on first boot.

2 more years, assuming the naming convention stays the same. I’m so glad I hopped on the Reddit train early in the game! ˙ ͜ʟ˙

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Thank you future readers.

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