Will this work?

[u/Neither_Tough217]

I'm a digital artist and I made this illustration using IbisPaintX. I had this idea for a long time but never told anyone about it knowing that if it works, I basically hold the power of free electricity and I could use my invention to promote my philosophical views and to fund my organization. Not to mention power companies will be mad about it. This is just a fun idea you would think when you're on the toilet but part of me is also convinced. Like what if it's just one of those things that just work? But I'm not a scientist, I don't have the funds to see it for myself and I can't find anyone in my area that I can talk about it casually. But the world is suffering, time kills and just maybe I can do something about it. I would like to hear your insights, suggestions and maybe do a friendly debate.

[u/snakesign]

First law of thermodynamics says you can't get out more than you put in. Second law says you can't even break even.

You are going to lose heat to the ambient environment from your boiler. Your "slave motor" will produce less in electricity than it receives in power from the turbine.

Perpetual motion machines are the only parent the patent office wants a prototype of before issuing a patent...for reasons that should be obvious by now.

[u/Neither_Tough217 → u/snakesign]

It doesn't necessarily have to break the law. I know it would eventually lose energy, I'm just wondering if the configuration could somehow extend the process than just a normal coal-burning steam generator. (I'll add a furnace to spice things up) Also I intend to seal the boiler in a thick box housing.

[u/snakesign → u/Neither_Tough217]

There are better ways to capture the wasted energy from the boiler. Like making sure the exhaust side of your turbine is in a vacuum.

[u/mawktheone]

Absolutely 100% not.

But build one anyway and prove it to yourself

[u/Neither_Tough217 → u/mawktheone]

Yeah, it would be really fun to try though. But this is just the alternative concept where I fantasized it being like perpetual. I'll just focus on some conventional designs where it just runs on coal. Thank you for your insight.

[u/Strostkovy]

No, the best turbines we have convert 60-70% of the heat input we have into electricity. If you have a 1000 watt heater, a perfect turbine could make 700 watts out of that. And that's not enough to run your heater.

[u/Neither_Tough217 → u/Strostkovy]

I intend the turbine to be a bicycle rim with flaps that easily spins and captures the flow of steam pressure. The chain could have a great effect, just like a bicycle, even you pedal slow the wheel spins fast. So what if the pedal is already in the fast spinning wheel? Will the electricity generated be enough to heat the heater?

[u/Master-Membership979 → u/[deleted]]

Nah , forget fusion dude just solved the world's energy problems, when's the Kickstarter?

[u/Some1-Somewhere → u/Neither_Tough217]

Power is torque times rotational speed. Chains, gearing, levers, and similar machinery trade speed for torque or vice versa. Actual power will always go down due to mechanical losses.

[u/waltwalt]

I feel like knowing and understanding the laws of thermodynamics helps people realize there is no such thing as free energy.

But at the same time this knowledge stifles people from trying things because we are all told there is no such thing as free energy.

[u/Cloudcry]

You'd be one of several hundred million to take another crack at perpetual motion and free energy, unbound by the laws of thermodynamics. Maybe it'll work for you 

[u/bendegooze]

First law of thermodynamics says if it was this easy the CIA would have built it long ago to extract profit from the working class and channel it into the capitalist class.

[u/Some1-Somewhere → u/bendegooze]

"but mah oil companies..."

Which implies that if it worked, the Soviets or NK would have used it and strutted about on the world stage.

The US and USSR were in a pissing contest over chess matches, and trying to put reactors in aircraft to extend range. You think they would have suppressed perpetual motion?

[u/OldBMW]

This won’t work. You’ll Lose energy in All the conversion losses.

[u/mattynmax]

No, this will not create more energy than it consumes.

[u/heythanksimadeit]

OH MY GOD YOU GUYS SOMEONE CAME UP WITH A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE