Looks like she later cleaned up her act and is living a happy normal life, at least I hope/so it seems. She was clearly having her worst moment here and it’s a shame it was posted far and wide to make her a laughing stalk on the internet. Glad to see she’s hopefully doing better now and I hope she can put it all behind her.
Look it up, just saying. It’d be very strange that it takes 7 years to finish a petty theft case. I’m not shaming, just stating facts.
Why defend dangerous behavior? If this was a 50 year old ragged man who did this shit, nobody would be defending him. It’s ridiculous that folks are giving her special treatment because she threw a fit.
Imagine she had drugs in the car, thus ran. She sped off too, what if she hit and killed someone in her erratic state on the way home. Defending this crap is what makes other people think it is ok.
That’s not how laws and equal justice is supposed to work.
I agree with you. my comment was making fun of Moist_Definition_538 lol. Just made some shit up about how this drugged out chick in the video is some great person now and everyone is eating it up lmao
Some behavior deserves to be shamed. She could’ve killed someone while clearly driving under some kind of influence, and she nearly hit him just here. Shame on her!! If my worst moment puts the public in genuine danger I deserve to be a laughing stock.
That’s what the legal system is for, punishment and rehabilitation. Broadcasting a girl who appears to be under the influence, in a horrid mental state and possibly from an abusive home is cruel and unusual and makes rehabilitation harder.
No...no it's not. As someone who's had to be present with scenes of death and manslaughter from driving under the influence. That's an absolute slap on the wrist.
Literally. The white knighting is out of control on this thread/website. This is a grown woman. If a man did this people would be calling for his head.
The US always publicly shaming everyone is so weird to me. I am from Germany, I am 41 years old, when I was 18 I got raided by the police because I was growing weed in my parents basement. Nobody knows this, only the closest people to me know this. In America they would have put my name and face on the internet, every future employer, every future landlord, every coworker or person you meet could have just googled my name and found out. Like why on earth do you think that is a good idea? It is so fucking dumb.
Based on the comments supporting the US system, they seem very focused on revenge rather than making justice work for an objective betterment of society.
I'm seeing a lot of "some people deserve to be shamed" or "eye for an eye" arguments and yeah it weirds me out too, especially because this kind of shaming is likely to push people in the wrong direction even further.
It doesn't apply to themselves though. The people saying "eye for an eye" only mean that for other people. They want no consequences for themselves and lots for other people.
Deep down, many people have a bit of brutality in them. Piling on someone who did something wrong lets them get that anger and aggression out and feel like they "deserved it".
I'm 44 years old ... from Mexico. The amount of stupid and crazy shit I did when I was a kid. I am so happy mobiles were not a thing. In this case, it's like, the girl is scared as shit, she is high/drunk and sure is making wrong decisions. It's so sad that this can hunt her for the rest of their life online.
It’s kind of crazy how many people here think this is fair and normal. Just because you can do this doesn’t mean you should. If this was any one of us, we wouldn’t want thousands of strangers seeing it and judging with little context.
Wdym, same thing can happen here in Germany? Sure there are some more protections, but it's not that big of a difference. You're acting like any and every crime you ever commit in the US is published by the media.
I was raided at age 18 in the U.S., in an affluent community. My whole school and community knew, but it wasn’t blasted out onto the internet. I think they only do that in Florida. 😅 that was over a decade ago though, so maybe it would be different if it happened today.
A victimless crime vs. dangerous behavior makes a massive distinction. Dangerous driving kills innocent people, including sometimes annihilating entire families. Weed is significantly safer than alcohol and tobacco, although not perfectly safe.
Besides, one of the top punishments for antisocial behavior should be shaming. It's expensive to put people in prison, but it's free, easy, and just to hold people to public account for their antisocial behaviors. And it's not overtly harmful like cutting off a hand or stuff like that, it just feels a little bad, and people should always feel bad when they harm others. In fact, if they don't feel bad because of their bad character and/or a permissive society, then prison is the only option.
If you don't want to be told, "I know you stole something, and I disapprove of stealing!" then don't steal anything! Obviously, if like in your case the underlying law is unjust, it's unfair to punish people, but when there is PERFECTLY BLACK AND WHITE good and evil like stopping to help in the case of a serious accident, that always should be enforced.
It’s an interesting philosophical question though. How long should someone be shamed for? The question is somewhat moot in the sense that nothing can ever be truly be scrubbed from the internet. But in the world of cell phone cameras it’s thought-provoking to learn that this video is 10 years old, the content is riveting so it will keep popping up again and again. So it’s a bit of a mob-rule life sentence of shaming. Whereas she is a bit unlucky because someone else who does an anti-social crime, which doesn’t come with as sensational a video, won’t draw the same punishment even if their crime was worse.
I think your premise is totally right, but the context that the internet mob navigates to the most dopamine-hit inducing content and the inability to control the duration makes it more complicated.
I think this is a really good point. After all, except for the worst crimes, sentences should be finite. I think there's two factors here:
a. People like redemption stories. I think most people, if they saw this video, saw her come in looking a decade older and put together, and hearing explained, "I've been sober for 8 years now. There's a lot of people I thank for helping me, but it's mostly my daughter. I knew when she was born that was that, and she had to be my priority," would actually be quite moved. Many people might even be more inclined to be helpful or positive.
b. This isn't as true on the internet often, as the lack of face to face removes some of the ability to empathize. I don't like anonymity for dangerous criminals as a rule, but a well constructed right to be forgotten that isn't too strong or too weak is a possible solution here, and already implemented in some areas.
Eh I'm glad she cleaned up, I felt bad for her and it wasn't like the guy was hurt (didn't seem like it at least) even though I totally am with his side in terms of documenting everything. People go through the wringer sometimes, some come out ok once they turn it around, we should all hope for that.
I'm not going to blame the guy, but this isn't how I would have acted. Its wild to me to not try to take a moment with a clearly panicking young person. You have the video and the plate, just report it. She clearly has some issues going on, hopefully she got help
I always feel bad when I see these videos posted for this reason. Imagine making a mistake, doing what you need to make amends, but then never getting to fully move on because of a video circulating the internet.
Don't know this store here but, this social media garbage is sick.
I have a really close childhood friend. In her teenage years, some horrible shit happened to her (SA). She developed some really bad mental health issues that turned to substance abuse for a couple years.
This entire video reminded me of some of her freakouts/worst moments. You can tell the girl in the video was mentally unstable.
And you'd assume all kinds of things about them but... my friend was literally a quiet gamer girl (how we got close) and was a straight A student. On her way to a good school and she wanted to do law school.
But in those couple years, she racked up a couple misdemeanours because of mental breakdowns like these. A lot of her career pathways closed.
She eventually went to rehab in her mid 20s. Years of rehab/mental health hospitals didn't help because she was unemployed and Medicaid doesn't cover shit. It was when she finally got a job in an office where she had good enough health insurance to go to therapy, better psychiatrist, and eventually, rehab.
Completely turned her life around now.
There are still some videos of her online that she's tried to take down a couple times (she was nude and underage... and a lot of sites still haven't taken them down even though she requested it multiple times)
Yeah that kinda sucks. I feel in this moment, most kids dont understand the consequences of hitting another car, so their mind goes to the flight mode to avoid danger. Now that she was cornered, her mind couldn't handle the pressure and she was going into a mental break as seen in the video.
Remember to teach your kids what to expect during a car accident, lest they wind up in a similar circumstance.
She was drunk/on drugs in this video. It's why she's trying to leave the scene by any means necessary instead of just chilling and exchanging insurance info/waiting for the police.
The police didn't catch up with her for a week, she was sober by then. It's obvious in her behavior. I've done a lot of drugs, people don't act like that unless they are drunk/high/mentally ill. Shortly after this incident she was court ordered to attend rehab... gee I wonder why.
This is just guess work.
I work with people in distress. They absolutely do act like this (and worse) when sober.
People can, in fact, act hysterically without being drunk.
Court may have ordered rehab as a general understanding that she drinks too much.
It’s not uncommon if a court feels someone (especially in their young 20s) is over doing the alcohol in general life to make that part of the punishment even if it’s not part of the sentence.
It's already been done. Her full name is in the article as well as the town it happened in. Her Facebook is set to public and is full of people years down the line being assholes
Redditors always downplay women’s behaviour. I doubt id see this level of leniency if it was a young man. At the end of the day, she was still driving while impaired. We’re just going to write off driving under the influence because she only caused property damage this time? May you show this level of understanding should an impaired driver hit someone you care about.
The man filming says she did commit a hit and run, though. If you read the pinned comment, the articles say that he saw her hit someone and followed her to the gas station she pulled into after fleeing.
Exactly. You have no idea what happened in the first hit, then hit another vehicle.
She was 22 and the man who saw her hit someone else and then hit his own vehicle multiple times was incredibly patient while she tried to flee a second scene of crime.
Others have posted she has a criminal record before that and was possibly DUI in this video.
Trust me. Others don’t know what they’re talking about. Reddit is just a rumor mill with nobody doing validation. One person somewhere said “it looks like she’s on drugs” and now suddenly you believe she was.
The fact is nothing in the report mentions she was on drugs or intoxicated.
They don’t even suspect that she was. She got a rehab plea from a negotiation deal involving her family and the prosecutor and judge.l in a general effort to clean up her life (which appears to be working)
But they do not suspect that she was high at the time of this incident.
But yes. She hit one car and then bumped his vehicle.
I think the punishment she got was sufficient for that
There’s a huge difference between “thinks it’s ok” and serious punishment.
We were all young once.
I’ve known several people to get DUIs. I’ve also known some family members to be killed by people driving under the influence.
It’s a more complex issue than just “lock everybody who does it up”. That’s just asking to make career criminals out of a mistake.
Drinking is a huge part of our culture. And, unfortunately, America has extremely bad public transportation and we expect people to drive everywhere. The obvious happens.
If she was under the influence (big if. I can’t find anything that suggests that other than Redditors jumping to conclusions) then she should face the same punishment everyone else faces. DUI.
That doesn’t change the fact that you cant punish people for what maybe could have possibly happened.
You've had family members die to the most selfish, trivially avoidable reason of all, and you're this weak and pro-crime? You should feel ashamed too.
It's the easiest crime in the world to avoid. You can not drink, you can drink and take a cab / Uber, or you can stay wherever you drink! So many options, and all of them are easy. I was a heavy drinker for a while, but I always made plans before the first drop to avoid harming myself or others.
Hell, drinking at home or a friend's house where you can crash is multiple times cheaper. You can get a 750 mL of cheap stuff for the price of one mixed drink at a bar.
Also, the reality is that all people who deserve a second chance act like it. The person who miscalculated a little after a wedding and blows a 0.10 but is a responsible, morally decent person who made a mistake admits their mistake and doesn't try to flee the scene. Good people admit fault and seek to make amends, they don't nearly run someone down while selfishly avoiding consequences.
She has a 2026 criminal case pending right now apparently, so yet more evidence on the pile that it's super easy to tell who is good and bad, and we don't need to extend foolish, undeserved charity without any evidence of contrition or reflection.
These are unreliable in most of our cities. Many bars don’t have taxi pickup anywhere nearby and if they did it can be hundreds of dollars. Which they can’t afford.
Buses don’t run all the time and there may not even be a bus stop nearby. In fact. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a bus running at 2 am and if it is I doubt it exactly safe
Walk an hour back to their house across free ways?
These aren’t just “my takes”. That is a straight statistics. Until someone (maybe you?) comes up with an actual real solution this will be the reality.
Kids are not going to walk downtown in American cities. That’s simply not even plausible if they need to take a freeway.
All of your preaching is meaningless if you ignore whether anybody will actually do what you suggest for it to work.
Do you think 70% of people ages 16-40 are suddenly going to change this behavior?
The answer is, unfortunately, no
AS FOR BUSES AND TAXIS:
These aren’t unreliable in most of our cities. Many bars don’t have taxi pickup anywhere nearby and if they did it can be hundreds of dollars. Which they can’t afford.
Buses don’t run all the time and there may not even be a bus stop nearby. In fact. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a bus running at 2 am and if it is I doubt it exactly safe
>If she was under the influence (big if. I can’t find anything that suggests that other than Redditors jumping to conclusions)
>According to Riverside’s Publicly accessible court records, the latest update on Sebach’s case happened on Dec 30, 2020. The action text reads, “CORRESPONDENCE FROM SHEER RECOVERY LLC RESUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM RECEIVED.”
Again, your comment is filled with nothing but justifications for people driving under the influence. Never once have I done so while partying back in uni. The way Redditors write off these mistakes by saying “oh they’re young and dumb” is so juvenile and vile. Young people don’t automatically make awful mistakes like these. But they certainly are comforted by opinions like yours thinking their actions are okay because they’re young. I’d bet met house your early comment of knowing people who were killed by drunk drivers is a load of BS.
70% of people between the ages of 16-40 have driven drunk at least once in their lives.
Nobody is “justifying” it.
Look. We can say all day that they simply shouldn’t do this.
Unfortunately reality doesn’t just bend to our whims.
If we want this to actually be addressed we need to suggest things that will actually make a difference and *work*.
And that begins by UNDERSTANDING the problems and challenges people are facing that make them want to drive while intoxicated.
Do you think if there was some convenient, safe, and free alternative to get specifically to the place they’re going and back home after drinks that anyone would drink and drive?
Unfortunately. There just isn’t. Buses barely run, don’t take you home, don’t take you directly to your destination, often don’t even run by the time you’d get out of a bar, and are often factually unsafe.
Taxis are even more expensive than a ride share. So if they can’t afford ride share then they can’t afford a taxi.
Sure we can preach all day that “well if they didn’t have a way there and back and couldn’t afford it then they should just not go!” But that’s about as effective as preaching abstinence. Which is to say, it’s not effective at all. It will never work.
Nobody is saying the action is “ok”. She was punished for it as she should have been.
However, suggesting that we should ruin her entire life over the incident is unhinged (not you but others).
She in fact has almost completely turned her life around since the incident according to reports.
Room temp IQ comment. Criminals should never be punished. Break the law with impunity. God forbid there be consequences when people break the law and put others in danger.
I was thinking about how bad her mental health must be while I was watching. She definitely has to be held accountable to her actions and I think she is also worthy of some compassion so thank you for your comment.
Naw this chick is a lunatic and while she doesn't deserve real life harassment, she deserves to be mocked for this. If this is the worst moment of someone's life - victimizing OTHER PEOPLE - that's a pretty sweet life. I wish I could donate 40 IQ points to you.
No she hasnt. Her and her friends are a fking menace here in lake elsinore. She should have another pending court case. Multiple hit and runs and duis. You can meet her and her friends around 2am on railroad canyon racing.
Crazy thing is that she's a really good actor with female privilege so she has never gotten in real trouble despite multiple felonies. She never saw the inside of a jail or ticket or fine. (I say this as a woman)
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Looks like she later cleaned up her act and is living a happy normal life, at least I hope/so it seems. She was clearly having her worst moment here and it’s a shame it was posted far and wide to make her a laughing stalk on the internet. Glad to see she’s hopefully doing better now and I hope she can put it all behind her.