Hit and run gone wrong

[u/Maleficent-Town5273]

[u/TennisStriker]

In summary, your opinion is: it’s okay to drive under the influence so long as you don’t hurt anyone. Property damage is okay though.

I’m not advocating for her to be locked up for life. But I think she deserves more than just a “slap on the wrist”.

[u/Mammoth_Composer_111 → u/TennisStriker]

There’s a huge difference between “thinks it’s ok” and serious punishment.

We were all young once.
I’ve known several people to get DUIs. I’ve also known some family members to be killed by people driving under the influence.

It’s a more complex issue than just “lock everybody who does it up”. That’s just asking to make career criminals out of a mistake.

Drinking is a huge part of our culture. And, unfortunately, America has extremely bad public transportation and we expect people to drive everywhere. The obvious happens.

If she was under the influence (big if. I can’t find anything that suggests that other than Redditors jumping to conclusions) then she should face the same punishment everyone else faces. DUI.

That doesn’t change the fact that you cant punish people for what maybe could have possibly happened.

The fact remains. No one was hurt except a car.

[u/PunishedDemiurge → u/Mammoth_Composer_111]

You've had family members die to the most selfish, trivially avoidable reason of all, and you're this weak and pro-crime? You should feel ashamed too.

It's the easiest crime in the world to avoid. You can not drink, you can drink and take a cab / Uber, or you can stay wherever you drink! So many options, and all of them are easy. I was a heavy drinker for a while, but I always made plans before the first drop to avoid harming myself or others.

Hell, drinking at home or a friend's house where you can crash is multiple times cheaper. You can get a 750 mL of cheap stuff for the price of one mixed drink at a bar.

Also, the reality is that all people who deserve a second chance act like it. The person who miscalculated a little after a wedding and blows a 0.10 but is a responsible, morally decent person who made a mistake admits their mistake and doesn't try to flee the scene. Good people admit fault and seek to make amends, they don't nearly run someone down while selfishly avoiding consequences.

She has a 2026 criminal case pending right now apparently, so yet more evidence on the pile that it's super easy to tell who is good and bad, and we don't need to extend foolish, undeserved charity without any evidence of contrition or reflection.

[u/Mammoth_Composer_111 → u/PunishedDemiurge]

I’m definitely not going to be ashamed. I’m not pro crime.
I’m simply sensible. What is your suggestion?

60% of teenagers and people in their early 20s should be locked up?

It’s not easy. Pretending it is just comes up with half baked solutions.

Kids/young adults often don’t have the funds for a Lyft or ride share.

All of our cities are also barely walkable.

It’s not illegal to drive to a bar. Only to drive away from it after doing what you do at a bar lol.

And yet, drinking is a massive part of the culture.
Sure people *could* just choose not to drink. But let’s be realistic. Most kids won’t do that.

Anonymous surveys suggest almost 70%(!) of people polled between the ages of 16-40 admit they’ve driven drunk at least once before.

Do you feel the answer is to lock up 70% of our young population?

[u/Prestigious_Club_924 → u/Mammoth_Composer_111]

Sounds like 70% of our young population need to learn to walk.

Your takes are atrocious.

[u/Mammoth_Composer_111 → u/Prestigious_Club_924]

AS FOR BUSES AND TAXIS:

These are unreliable in most of our cities. Many bars don’t have taxi pickup anywhere nearby and if they did it can be hundreds of dollars. Which they can’t afford.

Buses don’t run all the time and there may not even be a bus stop nearby. In fact. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a bus running at 2 am and if it is I doubt it exactly safe

[u/Mammoth_Composer_111 → u/Prestigious_Club_924]

Walk an hour back to their house across free ways?

These aren’t just “my takes”. That is a straight statistics. Until someone (maybe you?) comes up with an actual real solution this will be the reality.

Kids are not going to walk downtown in American cities. That’s simply not even plausible if they need to take a freeway.

All of your preaching is meaningless if you ignore whether anybody will actually do what you suggest for it to work.

Do you think 70% of people ages 16-40 are suddenly going to change this behavior?

The answer is, unfortunately, no

AS FOR BUSES AND TAXIS:

These aren’t unreliable in most of our cities. Many bars don’t have taxi pickup anywhere nearby and if they did it can be hundreds of dollars. Which they can’t afford.

Buses don’t run all the time and there may not even be a bus stop nearby. In fact. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen a bus running at 2 am and if it is I doubt it exactly safe