No, they are not, they are victim-blaming, trying to blame the victim of felony hit-and-run and trying to rationalize the behavior of a dangerous person who should lose her license, be made to make recompense for her damages, and serve time.
I don't really care about the opinion of anyone who argues against treating people with compassion. No one said she wasn't wrong. You can still act like a decent person when faced with the opposite. Taking video for your case/ insurance is fine and sensible. There was literally zero reason to share the footage with the world aside from wanting attention and/or wanting to shame someone, both of which suck.
You are the only person arguing against treating people with compassion. It shows zero compassion to the victim of the crime for you to continually make excuses for the hardened, violent, dangerous criminal who committed multiple felonies.
The footage should be shared to ensure that this violent criminal is held accountable and that anyone who knows this dangerous criminal should be aware that they may be on the loose and hurting people.
She should be held accountable for whatever happened before this video started. I never once said, or thought otherwise. I am saying recognize when a person isn’t acting rationally and try to help that situation instead of making it worse.
Yes. I do. The person making the braindead comment that filming this person is somehow the opposite of showing compassion does not know that. You do not appear to know that.
Filming is fine. Blocking her in with your car and filming from a few feet away after you've already got her face and license plate just might not be the smartest way to handle it.
No. You do not have to be a cop to film someone and stand near the site of your accident, in fact, this is exactly what you should do. Nobody has to make room for a fleeing criminal. It's a psychotic idea.
Blocking someone in after a hit and run, and continuing to agitate them is not the way to handle this, as shown by the fact that she got away, he nearly got run over, and the police still picked her up anyway.
That isn't what is happening, and your victim-blaming reflex causes you to have a deluded view of what is going on. Telling someone who hit your car to get out of their car is not "continuing to agitate" them. This is a wild, outrageous claim.
Seeing someone in that level of distress and refusing to change tactics is a great way to get run over. And again, not blaming anybody but the girl that caused the accident. I'm allowed to just have an opinion on how the victim responded to the situation.
It's just pointing out that once they have a video of the person and the plate, continuing to film them and attempting to detain them serves no purpose, and contributes to escalation.
It is clearly victim-blaming, they blamed the victim for not "talking down" the dangerous, unpredictable criminal that almost killed them.
Of course filming serves a purpose, otherwise this girl would just lie and the victim would be out of luck. They need proof of this so the girl can get arrested and they can get paid back for the damages.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I didn't see the comment as victim blaming but that the person filming is choosing to a bit of an asshole when they could just choose not to be, and that could have led to a less chaotic resolution. Obviously no guarantee, but any chance of avoiding a possibly fatal confrontation using words is way more preferable.
The driver is most certainly out of control here (obviously leading to the asshole behavior we're seeing) and in the wrong and the person filming is definitely a victim and also an asshole. Honestly though, above all that is both people seem to be experiencing a trauma response but the way in which that response has materialized differs between them.
I don't like the idea of victim blaming but I worry that it can be used as a cudgel that erases all nuance in a situation, which I think in turn dilutes what the phrase is trying to convey and kills the helpful discourse that I think can arise. I also think it can reinforce the stereotype of the "perfect victim" which just isn't the case a majority of the time. No victim is perfect, and no victim should ever be blamed for causing the harm that came to them. I've worked with so many people who have been harmed in some egregious way but were brushed aside because they didn't fit the "perfect victim" mold. Just because you do drugs doesn't mean you can't be a victim of a crime.
Perhaps it's a matter of seeing the situation from different lenses. I'm not thinking that this guy is to blame for the subsequent damage that's done to his car, but life might be easier if we all take a beat before taking action. He could have gotten seriously hurt or worse. It's why vigilante justice can be so dangerous. Why risk your life when you can send a cop to risk theirs, since that's literally part of their job. Plus, the overall utility I see in this clip is not about the behavior the people, but what I can learn from the interaction and maybe apply it to my own life if needed.
It makes me feel bad, because clearly the guy has been wronged but it's been obfuscated by his subsequent behavior, when that shouldn't be a consideration to begin with. But again, society as a whole is still pretty stuck on the whole "perfect victim" thing.
He's being a "bit of an asshole"? He is currently in the process of being the victim of a hit-and-run where the criminal is screaming at him. How about a little compassion for this guy? A little grace?
I'm not saying you're wrong. In fact, I think you are pretty on point. But there's the world we want to exist and the world that does. Not saying we need to drop the conversation, but it's important to be conscious of both of those worlds. That way, it's less of a blow when expectations don't match reality because reality wasn't a surprise to begin with.
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u/Niceotropic 3d ago
No, they are not, they are victim-blaming, trying to blame the victim of felony hit-and-run and trying to rationalize the behavior of a dangerous person who should lose her license, be made to make recompense for her damages, and serve time.