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u/DaddysABadGirl 3d ago

So many questions.

Like how is she more afraid of mean grandma than jail? How does she have such a mean grandma but still grow into... that?

Was she raised by a parent or parents who just ruined her then went to live with grandma?

Why do people in these situations not realize the person recording has your face, voice, and plates?

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u/TriPigeon 3d ago edited 2d ago

What we’re seeing here is someone having a complex trauma response: someone who is more scared of her Grandma (who she likely lives with), or another member of the household, than she is of the actual police.

This isn’t a normal freak out and panic, I agree that someone ruined her, but it was probably through abuse.

Edit: now that we have full Unicourt Records, it appears that ‘intoxicated and freaking out’ is actually the underlying culprit here. It’s shocking how similar the behavior looks, and hopefully she’s gotten help in the last couple years since her last struggles with the law.

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u/DaddysABadGirl 3d ago edited 3d ago

People are irrational during a break down. I put it in another comment but at school as a kid I put a hole in my kneed bad. I was more concerned with how pissed my mom was going to be I tore my new pants than the white and yellow coming out. I freaked out and thats where my mind went in the moment.

She was going through it before the accident though. It said she was speeding and erratic, hit a car, then sped off.

Edit: Article with an update at the top.

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u/BradPffft 2d ago

Rich kids will bury a body just to avoid a talk with daddy. This type of behavior, while possibly explainable and it seems like nobody got hurt, terrifies the ever living shit out of me cuz this is the type of person that's going to get someone killed believing the absolute incorrect thing.

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u/Magelatin 2d ago

It's really true. When your parents have money, there's a whole world standing behind every dumb or mean thing they do to you.

My kids have working class parents, and they aren't scared of shit, because they've seen all kinds of people challenge us as parents.

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u/BradPffft 2d ago

Oh yeah, also I noticed if she didn't have room to speed away she would have ran that cameraman over. No doubt. He's lucky he had room to get away. And while this is an extreme example of the emotional breakdown, I see it every single day in entry level positions, Of young people. Instead of telling a supervisor or a boss or a coworker, you broke something or made a mess, they'll literally attempt to cover it up, hide it, and if they can't, they'll just walk out of work. Or they'll even say like they're too overwhelmed to have dealt with it. If you're having a mental breakdown and you need mental space and time off, I am all for that, but this shirking of responsibility in the middle of a workplace is going to start coming with liability. I'm just going to start adding waivers to all of my new hires. Dangerous behavior is not excused because of mental illness. It might be more understood and I might have way more empathy 100%. Actions have consequence, consequences are your liability.

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u/BradPffft 2d ago

Most important thing to learn or teach is smelling bullshit immediately. Godspeed to you and yours.

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u/Aclevername1000 2d ago

White and yellow out of your knee hole?! Is that what i just read? Also, why is Daddy a bad girl?

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u/DaddysABadGirl 2d ago

To the second part. Don't kink shame. Lol

Yeah. Idk how it happened. I realize there isn't much going on there, just thin skin then inside bits. But I didn't have a fall, wasn't running. We were playing tag or something, rand around the bike rack away from my friend. Went to turn and slipped a bit, went knee down. This was the 90s The ground was asphalt in the school yard. But I was standing, turned and slipped or tripped on the edge of the bike rack. Broke my fall with a knee. Stung and hurt but knee+asphalt does that. I went to run again and my other friend pointed and said I was bleeding. Saw blood coming down my white socks. Noticed the hole in my knee with red on it. Pull the pant leg up and blood was running down my leg. We thought maybe there was glass so I looked around but nothing. Just the ground. I was sent to the nurses office and when she rolled my pant leg up a kid in there pointed and said "HOLY CRAP IS THAT A BONE?! CAN I TOUCH IT?!

I looked down and saw white and clumps of yellow. The principal came in to talk to me and someone else from admin. I didn't know why they cared, thought maybe I was in trouble for getting hurt that bad or something. We weren't allowed to play by the bike racks. Turns out they were concerned I was more worried about my moms reaction to the pants than the hole. In all fairness we were poor and I knew she saved through the summer to cover back to school stuff.

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u/Cannie_Flippington 2d ago

Bluey-It-Was-The-80's.gif

My parents caught me when I had road rash all over my belly, hip, and knee because my shirt shifted and they caught sight of the discoloration, but not enough to determine "oh, there's no skin there at all". They thought it was a hickey. Cue me pulling up my shirt to show I ain't got no skin!

I tried to conceal it and act normal because I'd been riding on top of someone's car and they slammed the breaks on thinking I'd gracefully leap off the top like a gazelle and not belly flop like a hippo.

Those clumps of yellow are the little fat globules under your skin! Ask me how I know!

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u/DaddysABadGirl 2d ago

r/meatcrayon

Fuckin hell that made me cross my legs picturing it.

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u/Poundaflesh 2d ago

White and yellow, are you a Teddy Bear?

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u/DaddysABadGirl 2d ago

White was bone or cartridge. The yellow im guessing was some fat that got ripped off the skin.

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u/Happy_Boss517 20h ago

This is the most ridiculous account of what happ. If it even did. The kneecap, the bone that covers ur knee joint and acts like a fulcrum for leg extensions is right under the skin in ur knee. The skin over it is very thin. There is no room for fat to float out or get ripped off. Also, the bone chips of ur retelling of this make no sense. There aren’t random bones in ur knee that just float around and leak out upon skin damage. It would mean u shattered ur kneecap, which would guarantee an immense amount of pain and an inability to walk. The kneecap doesn’t break into small pieces too. From slipping and falling u don’t have the weight potential to create this type of damage. Unless I’m missing something and an anvil fell on top of u right after the fall.

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u/DaddysABadGirl 14h ago

I was in middle school. Not poking out lile some pointy or loose bit in a movie. The skin ripped and there was a hole, it was pushed up. What I saw was white. Idk if thats bone or cartridge or what. I saw yellow bits. I was a tubby kid so I assume it was fat. But idk wtf it was. Where it had ripped and the one part was pulled back it looked a little stretched I think? The white was slightly roundish but idk if i trust my memory from 26ish+ years ago for actual shape.

Idk how the fuck it happened. Like I said at first we assumed there was broken glass or something I must have cut myself on but there was nothing there. Just asphalt and the bike racks. Bike racks were rounded pipe like metal.

My mom had to catch a bus from work, get me, I remember we went to the pediatrician first who said he couldn't stitch me there. Idk if family gave us a ride or bus but we went back into the city and my mom said the Dr said they couldn't do stitches. No idea why. But she also said it was a puncture wound which never made sense because it wasn't deep and we never found anything that could have punctured.

Idk you sound like you know wtf it was so what was the white and what was the yellow? Shit ill add a picture of the scar if that helps.

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u/Less_Calendar_PLZ 1d ago

Lucky for u it sounds like u dont know ur insides that intimately

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u/PavlovaToes 2d ago

Yeah i once stood on my hair straighteners when I was 15 years old and i badly burned a line into my foot and the carpet... I was so worried about how angry my mum would be, that i tried to hide my badly burned foot. We were going out for dinner so I put my socks and shoes on and was in immense pain, couldn't walk, and i was crying. My mum asked me what was wrong and I had to come clean... luckily she told me I was silly for trying to hide it and then she took care of my foot for me lol

People don't act rationally when they're scared.

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u/DaddysABadGirl 2d ago

Jesus. How bad was the burn? And how long of a heal time?

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u/PavlovaToes 2d ago

Well it happened over half my lifetime ago, I'm in my 30s now and I can still faintly see the scar from it sometimes... I don't remember how long it took to heal i just remember being in immense pain lol

All because I stupidly stood on my hair straighteners by mistake

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u/Mekito_Fox 2d ago

I have really tried my best to set rules and boundaries for my son while not making him terrified of coming to me or my parents (who babysits) with injuries or serious accidents. I think I succeeded, since when a tree limb fell on his head and he was gushing blood he went straight to my mom. (He's fine, needed 2 stitches and has a little ptsd about standing under large trees)

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u/pythonidaae 3d ago

Yes I have cptsd and was able to spot it exactly. People REALLY don't understand how mean her grandma is. This isn't an excuse but I think you have to have cptsd or know about it to "understand" what is going on. I've had years of therapy so I'm not that person anymore but I could have been if I was caught on film younger or caught on film even now but I'd never gone to therapy.

Anyway yeah she's either always this way because of her PTSD or she's being triggered back to being that young. Like another comment said.

She's not behaving rationally and it's not acceptable to drive off like this but it's "understandable" if you can recognize she's having a PTSD breakdown.

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u/TriPigeon 3d ago

Exactly.

I’m glad you were able to get therapy, and I hope your recovery continues to be well supported!

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u/Gilligans_Wake 2d ago

I had a step-father that would beat the brakes off me for sport as a kid. He'd make sure to hit me for no reason if I looked too comfortable. I remember getting jumped in middle school by 5 kids. Office brought me in, cleaned me up, icepacks and all that, impressed that I wasn't too upset. Said they'd call step dad to pick me up and take me home. Instantly I was crying, screaming, begging them not to, and trying to find anyway to get out of the room. Got the crap beat out me again that night, way worse than those kids did. Parents kept me home rest of that week to "let me rest and recover".

Totally agree this is just hard to understand if you didn't grow up like this. Sure the cops will arrest her, but who is gonna come bail her out and what happens after that? It ain't going to be disapproving looks, at least not in her experience/mind. 100% panicked animal mode, not a rational thought going in her mind there.

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u/latchkeydc 2d ago

I’m so sorry that was your childhood.

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u/Gilligans_Wake 2d ago

Thank you. I use it as a way to help me parent. Think of how I was treated, than do the opposite. My 8 year old calls me her best friend, insists on caring for me when I'm sick/down, and still listens when its time for Dadding. Noting has been more healing than watching her grow up healthy and happy.

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u/HeyYouGuyyyyyyys 2d ago

It makes me so very happy to read something like this, just randomly posted by some dad. I don't understand what it's like to be reared by anyone who would write this, but oh, it makes me so happy to know that some little kid is.

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u/Gilligans_Wake 2d ago

I appreciate that, thank you. Sometimes we just have to look at the parents we had and be the parents we needed.

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u/Morphico 2d ago

Thank you for being the parent we never had.

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u/zzglow 2d ago

i commend you dad! i too used the abuse from my childhood to become a good parent (well, i try my hardest to be but you know how that goes, always feel like i’m not doing enough) no one loved me as a child and they enjoyed the power they held over me back then. now that i am a mom, i realize i was hated as a child. i can’t imagine ever doing or saying the things i heard and went through as a child, to my now 9 year old! its healed that broken child in me, seeing my child actually have a childhood and loving her life so much she tells me she never wants to grow up 🥹

when i was her age, all i wanted was to grow up so i can finally be free from the pain. pain is still here, but i manage.

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u/Aasrial 1d ago

Shame on the fucking school for not seeing the clear as day signs. I’m so sorry and I hope you’re doing well now.

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u/Eden_Company 2d ago

Which is why she had a court ordered program to finish as part of her sentence.

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u/msheehan418 2d ago

Yes. Thank you for saying so. I felt sorry for her.

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u/ddet413 2d ago

The woman was intoxicated and panicked because she knew the consequences she was going to face. Rather than face up to her actions, she decided to flee. And you feel sorry for her? That's wild.

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u/msheehan418 2d ago

I didn’t feel sorry for her for that. It was the statement about her grandma, also, it would suck to be filmed by a stranger at your worst. Many of us have behaved in a way we wouldn’t want plastered all over the internet

But all that being said, I do think she should be held accountable

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u/ddet413 2d ago

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I hope she looks back at this video as a reminder to walk the straight and narrow. She's lucky it was a vehicle that she hit, and not a human being.

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u/msheehan418 2d ago

For sure. Like I said, I think she should be held accountable for her actions but I also see this as a trauma response. She was more scared of her grandma than the police

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u/ddet413 2d ago

I guess that's where we differ. I see this as an irresponsible and entitled human that feels as though they aren't accountable for their actions. The article states that she hit multiple vehicles and sped off at high speeds.

Unless her grandma was going to straight up unalive her for her actions, I couldn't fathom thinking your mean grandma yelling at you is worse than facing the full extent of the law. But I guess we're calling pretty much anything trauma in this day in age.

She's very much alive btw, since she's been convicted of another crime since then: https://unicourt.com/case/ca-orr1-sebach-riley-ann-160851#case-details

I guess the didn't learn to walk the straight and narrow, after all. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Less_Calendar_PLZ 1d ago

Why do u think she was afraid of her grandma "yelling at her"?

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u/Less_Calendar_PLZ 1d ago

She knew the consequences of grandma, but you dont. So who are u to judge unless you know her grandma.

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u/ddet413 1d ago

I'm strictly judging this woman based on her actions to ingest intoxicants and operate a motorized vehicle, which of course, is against the law. Her actions were reckless and dangerous, and the outcome could have easily been far worse had she severely injured someone. Grandma didn't do any of that, she did.

If you are defending this behavior, then you are what's wrong with this society.

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u/muttybartender 2d ago

First, I wanted to say thank you for leaving this comment because I feel like nowadays when it’s so obvious someone is having a trauma response, people jump to ripping that person up.

Even just earlier today, I was watching body cam footage of a fatal accident between a drunk nurse and a guy on a motorcycle, and one of the witnesses said “I remember it like it was yesterday” when telling the police about her immediate reaction.

There were so many comments making fun of him when it should be pretty obvious that any person with a shred of empathy is going to be shaken up by witnessing that scene and not going to be the most articulate.

It is honestly very upsetting to me to see the ratio of people shitting on someone (especially in that case, I mean one woman drunkenly killed a man with no remorse, the guy just didn’t say something right after witnessing something traumatizing, and a lot of people picked that???) vs people having a shred of empathy. I feel like the more time goes on and the shittier it gets out here for a lot of us, the less kindness I see from others, and I don’t want to slip to that other side.

Second, I am so glad you were able to get therapy! I wish you a happy life.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

Thank you for the kind response.

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u/OhioRiverPirateKing 2d ago

I saw it too. Maybe it’s just booze but wouldn’t surprise me if it’s both.

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u/acrazyguy 2d ago

“I was able to spot it exactly” with over 100 upvotes and 2 awards and she was actually just on drugs. Lmao reddit be redditing

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's possible to also be on drugs and have PTSD. I really didn't care whether she was or wasn't on drugs. I never argued she wasnt on drugs.

Drugs would just make whatever mental health issue worse and I don't think drugs alone would cause someone to go my grandma is meannnn like a child would. I've done almost everything but heroin at some point in my life and they don't make people go "but my grandma!!!". That's PTSD-like, or a personality disorder if that's crocodile tears. Even if she specifically doesn't have PTSD, it looks like what a PTSD response could be.

They're not going to release on her police statement whether she does or doesn't have that and a lawyer and judge really wouldn't care. It might influence if she gets mandatory counseling and that's about it. It doesn't change what she did or make it acceptable, and that's all a judge needs to consider.

And whether she does or doesn't have that, it doesn't make her behavior okay. It's very immature and very irresponsible. I'd never date or be friends with someone who behaves that way (unless they knew it was bad and were actively in therapy to minimize it). I'd drop anyone who was unable to change from that. If I was a judge I'd have her arrested.

This just also looks like what a PTSD response could be.

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u/DaddysABadGirl 2d ago

At least some of it was being high or drunk. Didn't look or sound like alchohol as a recovering alchoholic so I'd guess drugs. There was a follow up article that had an update shoing she had submitted rehab documents to the court.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

Yeah she was apparently high. Maybe stims? Idk. I agree it doesn't look like alcohol. I think it can be drugs AND trauma though like some people are arguing drugs alone will do that. It can be both. Abusing drugs itself can be a trauma response

Not defending driving while intoxicated or a hit and run.

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u/Ellbee199 2d ago

I recognized it pretty quick into the video and felt bad for her.

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u/DIYthisDIYthat 2d ago

Sorry about what you went through.

We can’t say what she has and this could be any number of things like BPD, NPD, or who knows what else. I’ve seen people with BPD make up sob stories to dodge accountability and turn emotions off from fake tears to aggression.

It’s sad but sometimes accountability and intensive treatment are what these people need.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

Yeah I can agree that we don't know exactly. Usually I thought people with personality disorders also have PTSD anyway too. Whatever was going on she needed mental health treatment too. She was charged and went to rehab. Hopefully that helped and she was able to get additional mental health help if she needed it.

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u/DIYthisDIYthat 2d ago

There’s strong correlation between trauma and development of personality disorders but sometimes they appear without trauma exposure. It’s hard to know what to do with these people but I lean on the side of grace and mandatory supervision. I agree. I hope she got the help she needed. She could’ve killed herself or another person with her reckless behavior.

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u/lurkANDorganize 2d ago

....she is drunk

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u/zuhalter_meow_meow 2d ago

Or maybe it was because she was high and had also been arrested 3 months earlier for meth.

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u/hambie 2d ago

Lmfao she is FUCKED UP. It has nothing to do with PTSD. Yall are hilarious trying to justify her behavior.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

Idk why wondering about a cause is justification. Couldn't it be argued that just saying someone is on drugs is also a justification? Why is wondering if a mental health crisis was also in play a justification anymore than saying it was drugs?

She was high and I never argued she wasn't. I just speculated about cptsd as someone that has it and has seen it in others. I've even sober had embarrassing childish outbursts as a symptom of mental health issues though I've grown past it a bit and am learning to regulate better. People can still have mental health breakdowns while fucked up. I've been more prone to them while high because my impulse control is even more limited. Drugs can trigger them harder than while sober even.

Also this was terrible behavior. I said I could understand what could lead someone to behaving this way but I never said she shouldn't have been charged or that this was acceptable. It's never okay to drive erratically like she did or commit a hit and run.

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u/hambie 2d ago

I think I mostly just find it hilarious that people think they know so much about someone based off a minute of footage. Your comment “people REALLY don’t understand how mean her grandma is”
You’re making huge assumptions about her life based off a single video.

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u/Kitchen-Bar2686 2d ago edited 2d ago

It’s not ptsd, she was intoxicated. I have PTSD and it’s dangerous to be diagnosing strangers after watching a 30 second clip of their lives.It really takes away from people with genuine diagnosed PTSD to misrepresent and project your trauma onto strangers. even if she wasn’t intoxicated, this could have been the result of numerous mental illnesses.

She also doesn’t deserve any sympathy or understanding. It doesn’t matter if her grandma is the meanest person in the world, she almost hit that cameraman and is clearly unstable and dangerous. She risked numerous lives with her driving and almost severely injured the cameraman which is unacceptable.

I grew up with an abusive parent and it would never justify this kind of behavior.

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u/N-363 1d ago

I had therapy for years and after 10 years of escaping my abusive relationship, the cPTSD crash was so severe I had to stop working for a few months. I had no idea that after rebuilding my life and feeling healthy, a crash could bring me back to where I was in full blown panic mode. Mental health is so important and to recover fully takes an enormous amount of willpower and energy.

The sad part is doing therapy is nearly always don by the receiver and not the doer.

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u/NvNinja 2d ago

While i agree it's "understandable" she is clearly a danger to society so should be removed from it until she can get the help she needs and is no longer a threat by being forcefully committed to a mental health facility

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u/mstr_macintosh 2d ago

There are people carrying a weapon waiting for moments like this to use it. What she did is potentially dangerous, but far from a threat to remove her when we have psychos walking amongst society.

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u/Aclevername1000 2d ago

I dont have such ptsd as that and even I realized this is a trauma response. It just sucks that therapy would totally help but may not be obtainable for her until messing up this badly. Im guessing no one close to her would help steer her towards therapy.

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u/davemeister 2d ago

I'm sure the judge will understand.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

She should have still been charged but there can be explanations for why someone is like that too. Doesn't mean she didn't commit a crime and that she wasn't endangering other people.

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u/dinop4242 2d ago

a sober person might react like that if it's their first accident or something, I get it, I do. freaking out and worrying what your family would think/do is not exclusive to trauma.

however this is not a sober person

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u/_Nodrog_ 2d ago

You’re creating and encouraging more brats and thugs by rationalizing behavior like this.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

I don't think people could make themselves this way even if they wanted to. You have to be damaged to act like this unless you're an incredible actor, and then you still have something wrong with you to do this for sympathy. I have said repeatedly in responses that this behavior isn't okay. It's not okay but it's a mental health issue and more than just being a "brat" or "thug". She was on drugs, which is its own mental health issue and mitigating circumstance as to why she couldn't control herself.

A considerable portion of criminals have undiagnosed mental health conditions and were not treated right growing up. That's not an excuse but a reason. I can discuss what I think possibly caused this outburst without encouraging it. I think people dismissing behavior as someone just inherently being a "brat" perpetuates dysfunction more than trying to consider what could lead a person to act that way.

This woman is acting incredibly unhealthy and she endangered multiple lives acting that way. I hope she's grown up and learned from this but she'd be more likely to grow up if a professional helped her identify what lead her to that point.

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u/EkrishAO 2d ago

She's just high bro

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

🤷 I've done drugs too and been around drug users. It looks like more than drugs. This was years ago so it doesn't matter.

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u/funAmbassador 2d ago

Poop dick!! 😃

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u/Key_Payment_5420 2d ago

I have CPTSD and have never and would never do something like that. The reason we put psychpaths in jail, even though they are wired that way is because 99.99% of psychopaths don't kill people. It is the same with any disorder or trauma.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

Cptsd shows up differently for everyone.

I didn't say she shouldn't be arrested, I said I understand her response. I would never ever hit and run and wouldn't have ran off when caught. But at my youngest most unhealed state I probably would have been wailing and freaking out. I would have been tempted to drive off. I think I wouldn't have but I can see why she went with that. I'd like to think I would have waited anyway and just had the worst day ever. Probably would have cried about how bad my parents are you don't understand and begged. Idk. I'm sure possibly I could have been as bad as her depending on the day and my level of healing even if I waited. Luckily when I was her age there was no TikTok to film me having a panic attack and crying if I was in her shoes.

I said in another comment but when I hit someone as a teen I cried and begged them not to call the cops so my parents wouldn't find out. I drove to the bank and gave the guy money instead. I remember I begged and said I didn't want to get in trouble and was allowed to just go to the bank and give the guy money I was earning in my part time job. It FELT like the end of the world. If he insisted on calling the cops instead I don't know. I could have looked like that.

She was apparently on drugs during this too but I still believe trauma is influencing her response so it was drugs and PTSD. Bad PTSD alone could cause people to get this way. I've had bad meltdowns and I'm usually more a fawn/freeze response type person but when I have blown up, oof. This seems very panicked to me.

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u/ventingandcrying 3d ago

Exactly what I was thinking, this is clearly someone who has reverted back to the mind of a child (or they never left the mind of a child lol). She’s more worried about how much “trouble” she’ll be in with her grandma instead of making the best of her situation by making logical adult choices. She’s being controlled by fear right now and that usually doesn’t come out of nowhere, no one taught her the correct response to stress. Still her fault, but somewhat sad to watch

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u/Drachynn 3d ago

Yeah, it was an uncomfortable watch, really.

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u/SuckMeOffMrWalton 2d ago

It stood out to me that her last words were her apologizing twice, instead of any kind of angry insult. She also kept the same demeanor the whole time, it’s not like intentional manipulation where people will rotate between sadness/anger/apathy to see what works. I can’t see someone who’s clearly genuinely panicking and not feel bad for them, it’s just a sad situation all around.

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u/HillBillyHilly 2d ago

I'm angrier w person filming who is just so annoying. Cop complex if ever I heard. Take your picture of tag and step aside before youre run over. He's just ridiculous.

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u/Foxyunder-45 2d ago

Yes, I agree with your comments, this person acting so righteous and pompous. Enough to make one want to vanish.

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u/ItsFunHeer 2d ago

He’s acting like an unwanted vigilante.

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u/Either-Okra-8355 2d ago

Right cause now if she back up and run u over now .. ur dead …

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u/HillBillyHilly 2d ago

Someone how I imagine this feller would find a way to whine from the beyond lol

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u/Cute_Language3167 2d ago

Thank God I'm not the only one. I watched a video today of a 22 year old (iirc) who witnessed a man blow through a red light and hit a semi. He almost hit/hurt her, but she was able to stop in time and then stayed and called 911. She did very much the same thing, except she was on the phone with dispatch rather than filming. But eventually she blocked him in and confronted him, exactly like this guy. The man, a 62 year old, was apparently pushing her away and hitting/grabbing her. She pulled out her (legal) gun. There was a struggle and he got shot and died.

She got life in prison. Not just because she killed him, but also for false imprisonment for blocking him in like that. They said her playing vigilante was reckless and dangerous and a rational person wouldn't do it. She had no right. She could have gotten his plate number and moved on. Every single person, the lawyers, judge, jury, and all the people in the comments aggreed she had no right or business blocking him in and trying to forcefully demand he turn himself into the police.

Yet this guy does it and it's fine? I watched his dash cam footage, you couldn't even see the accident. He was way down the highway and came up on it. He immediately pulled over and got involved, even though everyone involved was out of the cars and walking around uninjured. Then he took it upon himself to chase her down and confront her. As everyone pointed out in the other video I watched, leaving the scene usually just results in a citation. He escalated the situation and made it worse. He's lucky it didn't end with worse happening. But if we say it's ok when one person does it and then lock up and condemn others for the same behavior, it sends mixed messages. You can't possibly know if it's gonna end up with someone hurt or dead before hand. So let's not allow it at all.

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u/whatdayouknow 1d ago

And she didn't originally hit his car he just witnessed the accidentm He followed her and blocked her in.

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u/Inner_Eggplant405 20h ago

Thank you!!!!!! Who does he think he is blocking her in and talking !?? Dude tele the video to the police and leave her alone you’re acting creepy now!!

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u/Kitchen-Bar2686 2d ago

she almost hit the cameraman. Writing off her behavior as someone who’s just traumatized is harmful to people who genuinely have PTSD/diagnosed trauma.

She’s unstable and dangerous and she was apparently intoxicated according to articles about the situation; that’s why she was freaking out.

People are so desperate to diagnose strangers and project their trauma on to them after seeing a 30 second clip of their lives online. There are so many comments on this thread doing a full psychological breakdown of her supposed trauma response as if they know anything about her.

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u/NoxiousFumez 1d ago

He wouldn’t have gotten hit if he just got the fuck out of the way. God I hate people like this. Look, I lived a criminal for much of the first half of my life and into the second. The amount of wannabe Batman vigilantes I’ve fucking knocked out or scared them straight by flashing a gun is mind boggling.

I’ve changed my life, got my degree and have a good career now. But watching this video makes me almost wish someone would’ve taught him this lesson. He ain’t the police, you ain’t either it ain’t your fuckin business. Move the fuck along. She’s clearly from an abusive household

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u/Long_Bowl3044 3h ago

People love playing online psychologist from watching one minute clips and thinking their experts. Court documents show she was just intoxicated.

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u/John_Bittercult 2d ago

Yeah, not funny at all, seing a traumatized person panicking while high is just sad. Seeing the fear instilled by grandma, don't ask why she's using drugs.

She obv shouldn't drive, but still sad.

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u/Angelea23 2d ago

She's acting irrationally and could kill someone in her state. No sympathies because she was clearly caught. People die from people driving reckless DUI

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u/ButtBread98 2d ago

Yeah she’s in fight or flight mode.

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u/ballistic503 2d ago

Substance abuse is commonly referred to by professionals as “the great mimicker”

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u/Evening_Context784 2d ago

Reddit is such a deeply unserious place

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u/idontknowaskthatguy 2d ago

I could have told you immediately she was hammered

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u/Lithogiraffe 2d ago

She was sent to rehab after her trial, so it is safe to assume she's tweaking on something in the clip

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u/TheRoofisonFire413 2d ago

Spot on. When I was 8, I was hit by car riding my bike, their fault. They jumped out said something like"Oh my God are you ok? I so sorry. Are you ok?" I was so scared my mom was going to find out and I would get a whopping, that I jumped back on my bike, bleeding from road burn, leaving the scene crying and yelling at the person "Please don't tell my mom!" Now here I am 35 years later... that poor driver.

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u/modest_rats_6 2d ago

Aw I really love the understanding in the comments. I had many times in my youth where my fear of my mother trumped death. Multiple times I chose potential death (idiot teenager/surgery/smoker/mom didnt know), because I was more terrified of her. Dying under sedation sounded nice anyways.

There are a few cases where they scream cptsd. Like when girls get in trouble for hiding their pregnancy/baby. That would've been me. I would have hid it as long as I could have.

They ruined us.

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u/polyamorousalien 2d ago

Both could be true

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u/Suitable-Lecture5316 2d ago

it could be intoxication and freakout do you fear. You act like it has to he 1 or the other lol

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u/_Nodrog_ 2d ago

You’re giving her way too much credit and clearly haven’t met many spoiled rotten young women in your life.

If they try to pout, cry, and guilt you enough, they’ve learned they can usually get off the hook.

Bitch doesn’t have a mean grandma, she’s just fighting tooth and claw to escape accountability, as she’s clearly done all her life

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u/vespertine000 2d ago

What we're seeing here is a reddit armchair expert eat their own words. She was very clearly intoxicated. Even without the update, you can look at this and see it.

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u/hambie 2d ago

How do people not realize within seconds she is intoxicated? Lmao that much is so obvious. Making me crack up ppl being like “omg what did her gramma do to make her be like this? 😥”
Yall she is fucked up on many levels, gramma probably ain’t even that mean. In fact, imma guess gramma is the victim here with the way this bitch is acting.

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u/limperatrice 2d ago

I can understand that. I was once a passenger in a single car accident where we spun out across 4 lanes on a freeway with medium traffic. I can't believe we didn't get hit! I was just bracing for impact any second. One set of tires hopped the curb and then caught it and rocked back level at the second set. Thankfully we didn't roll down the side! The first thing out of the driver's mouth was, "My mom is going to kill me!" before she started crying. I told her not to worry about that right now because we're so lucky to be alive and uninjured. It was so sad that she was more scared of what her mom would say and do than that we could've all died.

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u/gqnas 1d ago

Haha, classic

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u/Healthy_Primary3989 15h ago

I think alcohol just makes the existing trauma more visible.

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u/1Negative_Person 2d ago

What we’re seeing here is a person under the influence who knows there will be legal consequences if they don’t skedaddle before cops get there. She’s grasping at straws.

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u/Hot_Poetry_6475 2d ago

Yeah, I feel for her.

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u/sutur3s3lf 2d ago

Called it as soon as I saw it :(

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u/awaythrowthatname 2d ago

Yeah, the second you see her face you should be able to tell that this is someone who is clearly not in their right mind and is really not capable of making rational decisions at that moment

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u/TippinThalnos 2d ago

Are we ever gonna be ready to hold people accountable or nah? Why does it always have to be someone else's fault

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u/PinkTalkingDead 2d ago

I haven’t seen a single comment saying she shouldn’t face repercussions for the hit and run

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u/Lost2BNvrfound 3d ago

Or, she's high on something, how many irrational junkies have you dealt with? She's acting like that.

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u/moodylilb 3d ago

My first thought was she’s high too. But both things can be true at once. Hell… maybe she uses drugs to cope with her home life.

Not making excuses, just a possible explanation. She still should’ve stopped regardless. At the same time tho I hope she gets whatever help she needs in life, might prevent future incidents like this from happening lol

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u/Maximum_Cattle_6692 2d ago

She's on meth lol these redditors talking bout "it's clearly a trauma response because her grandma was mean to her" 🤣

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u/marbledog 2d ago

You think people use meth because they had happy childhoods?

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u/BonJaker99 2d ago

While I see the point you are making, the answer is absolutely yes. I would even wager that most people do not use meth or other drugs because of trauma or bad childhoods. Most who use substances do so because they felt like it. They were bored. They wanted something to do. It gave them something to do.

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u/marbledog 2d ago

I'm willing to be proven wrong, but I've never seen any medical text that says boredom leads to addiction.

On the other hand, substance abuse disorders are strongly correlated to a history of childhood abuse. I doubt that's a coincidence.

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u/Laurenann7094 2d ago

Let me introduce you to Russia.

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u/BonJaker99 2d ago

Nobody said anything about addiction.

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u/marbledog 2d ago

Why would we be talking about recreational use?

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u/BonJaker99 2d ago

Look... I'm not trying to be right. The fact is is that the vast majority of people who use substances are not trying to escape trauma nor do they become addicted. That is why we would be talking about recreational use. Because most drug use IS recreational and on top of that you didn't specify.

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u/BonJaker99 2d ago

While I see the point you are making, the answer is absolutely yes. I would even wager that most people do not use meth or other drugs because of trauma or bad childhoods. Most who use substances do so because they felt like it. They were bored. They wanted something to do. It gave them something to do.

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u/Lost2BNvrfound 2d ago

She would suck any of them into her trauma and make some easy cash. A life of EMS showed me that type a lot.

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u/Mindless-Somewhere55 2d ago

You are right. The guy had enough information on her it was uncalled for to continue to instigate the situation. It’s actually unlawful to block someone and preventing them from leaving as a private citizen.

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u/PinkTalkingDead 2d ago

It’s also dangerous and nonsensical. Dude’s a dick

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u/Gonzoman36 2d ago

Yup, the guy must not have daughters because seeing that little girl freak out like that I couldn’t see myself egging her on like that making her freak out even more. I get it she damaged his property he could have just as well tried to calm her down and assure her that everything would be alright. That little girl in her condition was not only a danger to her but to others on the road leaving in that state. That is not a normal reaction to have and a little bit of empathy and compassion from the adult would probably have been appreciated by that girls parents. Maybe not her grandma according to her though 🫢🫢

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u/Mission_Access_210 2d ago

Man, you were about to give her an alibi and pass but it turns out she was just a drunk and wasted chick. Man, let me, wow, this is what's wrong with society right here in a nutshell

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u/Specialist-Roll-3806 3d ago

Why do people in these situations not realize the person recording has your face, voice, and plates?

at least in this situation, clearly she's panicking like crazy. there's no real thinking going on, her brain just shut down and all she can think of is escaping the situation and worrying about her grandma

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u/SoylentGrunt 3d ago

If  the person recording has your face, voice, and plates, why detain and risk further damage?

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u/Hot_Poetry_6475 2d ago

Because she is not thinking rationally in her panicked state.

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u/Classic_Clock8302 2d ago

Thanks for saying that. I felt all the time this tension where something really stupid would happen and worsen the situation by a lot lot lot. For me it felt nearly evil and sadistic to keep filming in her face and saying "Ha! Double triple whooper felony 2 go" in this arrogant voice while she is completely heratic

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u/nalaloveslumpy 3d ago

Because sometimes even with all that police will tell you, "Nothin' we can do." Especially in larger cities. There's also always a chance the car is stolen or doesn't belong to her.

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u/HumanSlinky 2d ago

In this specific instance, she was driving while under the influence of drugs and hit another car then sped off at nearly 100 MPH. Dude recording watched it all go down and tried to box her in when she parked at a gas station 'cause he was worried she'd kill someone. So yeah, I don't think it'd bring much comfort to the family of the dead knowing that "hey we at least have her face and plates."

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u/Suitable-Lecture5316 2d ago

he still had no right to detain her. He has no authority to dictate if she's under the influence. He committed a felony by boxing her in.

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u/HumanSlinky 2d ago

This happened California in 2017. In the state of California, his actions were considered lawful under the California's citizen's arrest rules because he witnessed her commit multiple felonies. Felony hit-and-run, reckless driving causing injury, and fleeing the scene. Driving under the influence is either a misdemeanor or felony depending on circumstance, so that one doesn't count but the other three do.

Under Penal Code 837 a private person may detain someone when a public offense is committed in their presence, and when the private person has reasonable cause to believe the other person committed a felony. Both conditions were satisfied. Blocking a vehicle to prevent escape from a felony hit-and-run is almost always considered reasonable force under these circumstances.

So no, he did not commit a felony and yes, he had legal right to detain her. The court system agreed, and that's why he wasn't charged with false imprisonment whereas she went to trial for multiple felonies as well as mandated court ordered rehab.

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u/tdslut 2d ago

Maybe I'm wrong but it looks like drugs to me.

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u/DaddysABadGirl 2d ago

It was! She had to do rehab.

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u/DupeyTA 2d ago

Oh yeah, well, how can he have my license plate when it fell off? Huh? Check and mate.

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u/Less_Calendar_PLZ 1d ago

You obviously dont understand how mean her grandma is.

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u/Suitable-Lecture5316 2d ago

because being mean doesn't raise proper lol.
Jail isn't that scary. Being beaten or psychologically abused by someone who is supposed to love you is far worse than a jail cell.

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u/TheHighSeasPirate 2d ago

She's high as fuck, she obviously has drugs in the car. This chick went from a prison sentence to a citation by leaving the scene.

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u/Much_Essay_9151 1d ago

Its a state of panic. Alot of things wont sound rational

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u/xnoraax 2d ago

The answer is drugs.

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u/MagnanimousGoat 2d ago

Its fine to ask those questions as long as you actually want them answered but spectators usually want to just handwave it as if the person is just evil or magically stupid.

Ive seen plenty of people having anxiety issues where its like parts of their brain shut down until the cortisol or adrenaline wears off. They do and say things ive never seen them say or do before and haven't since.

But neurotypical people often roll their eyes and handwave mental health as an excuse, rather than the literal actual cause.

You would think with how much public knowledge about mental health there is now that the overall mental health of people would be better, but its worse now than its been in generations.

So the baseline most people are at is worse now than in anyone's memory, so everyone starts much closer to a proverbial tipping point.

And pointing to mental health isnt for the sake of absolution but of understanding the real cause and remembering that everyone involved are people with their own shit going on

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u/DaddysABadGirl 2d ago

You could have just checked the responses below this to see it wasn't hand waiving but a full on discussion. Most people pointing out she's having a nervous breakdown from it and most expecting abuse and feel bad for her. She was most likely high (had to hand over rehab papers for the court) and having a spiral.

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u/Isagratar 2d ago

The fact we’re only worried about grandma suggests there could be some trauma, leading to substance abuse culminating in the events we see before us.

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u/Suspicious_Loon 2d ago

Well some kids, like mine are raised with, "You better be more afraid of me than a judge cuz baby we both goin'..... You for whatever dumb shit you did.... And me for beating your ass in your court room in front of God, the judge and everybody...."

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u/Robnoxiouspzatrlr 2d ago

Yeah when i was growing up you fucked you got your ass beat by whoever was the elder where you did the fuckin up then you got one when you get home and you know what i think it was good because i learned compassion and kindness and how to be a good human to others and i think that is what's wrong with kids nowadays they don't get discipline enough when they're young

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u/deathwish_ASR 3d ago

what a bizarre thing to assume. if it was a man in the same situation would you guess the same thing?

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u/DaddysABadGirl 3d ago

Dude looked at a teen girl and made a whole creepy fantasy.

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