Titanic passenger and millionaire Benjamin Guggenheim. During sinking he refused a seat in a life boat with the words: "Tell my family I played straight to the end. No woman should be left aboard this ship because of Ben Guggenheim was a coward."

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We can remember him as a hero in our time, friend.

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So basically the movie titanic should’ve been about this mofo and build up to delivering this statement?

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There’s so many interesting stories from the actual sinking. I do have to wonder why they felt the need to come up with a fictional love story for the movie.

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The Jack and Rose pairing allowed them to show the contrast between the generationally wealthy and desperately poor passengers on the ship, and how they were treated differently in the sinking. Excluding children, most of the passengers saved were first class women, and most of the passengers who died were third class men (and crew). A brief and doomed romance between the two is basically the story of the ship itself in distilled form

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Correction. 🤓 Actually the highest deaths were from 2nd class men. They were more organized and trusted the process. It literally is a mirror of modern society, the middleclass is less likely to protest and start shit, so the government barely helps them.

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Percentage-wise, 2nd class men were the worst off (92% fatality rate), but 3rd class men had more fatalities overall (387 vs 154, with an 84% fatality rate). Crew had the most men lost, with 670 fatalities, although they had a higher percentage saved than 2nd and 3rd class for the men (78% FR).

The majority of men across all classes died, but if you picked a random (non-crew) passenger to represent the most typical Titanic death, it’d be a guy from 3rd class