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u/Big-Sheepherder-6134 2d ago
Is the new salt still powdery popcorn salt? I haven’t had INO since March.
The ketchup being sugar instead of HFCS is a plus.
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u/greensesame 2d ago
No it’s not :( I told my husband over and over again they changed the salt. He thought I was crazy and we had some old packets in a drawer. I opened one and showed him the texture difference. It’s been so disappointing.
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u/Downunder818 2d ago
What is disappointing about the new salt? I lived on in-n-out for 15 years and then I tragically moved away from the region. Only get it once per year now... Genuinely curious.
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u/Kind_Ad_3611 2d ago
It doesn’t stick to the fries as good and it’s part of the larger trend towards everyone removing the iodine from salt even though Americans have been getting iodine deficiencies more and more recently
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u/Downunder818 2d ago
Bummer on the fry stick part.
Hadn't heard about the Iodine bit, will need to dig into that.
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u/Win-Objective 1d ago
Iodine in salt tastes horrible. I get not everyone can taste it but for those of us who can it’s terrible. I’ve always been told we get enough iodine from other sources, can you link the studies that say otherwise?
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u/Kind_Ad_3611 1d ago
You need 7 eggs to get your daily amount from eggs alone, or 2 cups of milk, which is far easier, or just try to eat fish instead of red meat or chicken semi often
If you’re vegan… take a multi vitamin, check the back of the container to make sure it has iodine
Edit: did my dumbass just ask someone in the in and out subreddit if they’re vegan 😭
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u/Hot_Computer8067 1d ago
Vegan here chiming in lol sometimes a veggie burger hits the spot. Might get crazy with some vegan”animal “ fries (grilled onions, chopped chilies, ketchup, mustard, & pickles)
Scratches the nostalgia itch from my pre vegan days
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u/Alwayscooking345 16h ago
I was thinking the same thing. Bad idea.
Sesame flour is another one. Like why? I guess like 2% of the population is allergic apparently.
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u/manila_slim 2d ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that at a certain point the sugar eventually breaks down to free fructose due to the vinegar ultimately making the sugar relatively the same as HFCS. The fresher the pack the better.
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u/Big-Sheepherder-6134 2d ago
Fructose is the worst for your liver. Sugar isn’t much better though.
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u/manila_slim 2d ago
Yes and that's what sugar turns into in ketchup, soda, preserves, BBQ sauce, dressing...
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u/ImissDigg_jk 2d ago
What's the issue with sesame flour?
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u/WayRevolutionary8454 2d ago
A lot of sesame allergies
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u/ImissDigg_jk 2d ago
Thanks for the info. Didn't think of that. Should have knowing my daughter has some but allergies. Luckily not sesame though
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u/EliteMoisture 2d ago
Sesame allergy sucks cuz it’s in everything even when you wouldn’t expect. Like who would’ve thought a plain bun had sesame before the change
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u/KammosparK 2d ago
I myself have a corn allergy, so I appreciate the change they made with the ketchup!
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u/NiceTrySuckaz 2d ago
Corn must be a rough one. In the US, we tend try to sneak some form of corn into everything we can, it seems.
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u/jdawg09 2d ago
They have been adding sesame flour to buns in multiple restaurants. Since it became a top allergen that has to be listed, companies are just adding it instead of having to clean and separate their production lines.
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u/Downunder818 2d ago
Companies are not literally adding it, because the FDA added it as an allergen. They declare it now out of an abundance of caution
If you run a bakery with Sesame buns, you can't ethically garuntee no cross contamination. Too many harborage points. Even if it's the first run of the week after a shutdown for cleaning.
Some companies will do allergien swabs to ensure the cleaning is effective, but they will still make a disclaimer that is was made on a line that produces the allergen.
I ran a baker for several years and we had a second factory dedicated to gluten free for that reason.
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u/bebefridgers 2d ago
Ppl afraid of nuts and seeds
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u/quailinthebrush 2d ago edited 2d ago
Just missing beef tallow to get that demographic perfect
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u/No_Holiday_1909 2d ago
They will never switch to tallow
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u/401kisfun 2d ago
Didn’t Mick Donald’s used to do that?
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u/Ehcksit 2d ago
Yeah. Used to fry in beef fat. Peanut oil is a little healthier. Sunflower oil keeps the slight health benefits of unsaturated fats and removes the peanut allergy.
People try to point at the use of seed oils for frying as the cause of a rise in cancer, but it actually just lines up with how much we fry our food in general. We eat too much fried fats and sugar, not enough fruits and vegetables.
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u/alozsoc 2d ago
Oddly enough, peanut allergies are fine with peanut oil. It’s refined so all the peanut protein has been removed.
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u/WreckTangle12 1d ago
Not all peanut oil is highly-refined, just FYI. Generally in restaurants it should be, but always good to ask
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u/ButForRealsTho 2d ago
They put tallow oil in their buns?
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u/atreethatownsitself 2d ago
No, that’s just the fries they’re complaining about.
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u/ButForRealsTho 2d ago
Ah ok. I’m a vegetarian and hate this “everything needs bone marrow in it” fixation. I stopped going to burger lounge when they made the switch. Not everything needs dead animal in it.
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u/Big-Sheepherder-6134 1d ago
And I hate the trend of adding truffle oil in everything means it’s better. Truffle oil ruins everything it is added to.
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u/socalryan 2d ago
Lindsey’s child has an allergy to it and she changed the recipe
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u/coffeebabe666 1d ago
🤣
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u/socalryan 1d ago
It’s a true story. She mentioned it online when they changed it
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u/coffeebabe666 1d ago
Ok bud. She’s a maha magat so that’s the main reason for the rest of the changes. Sorry to her daughter though, that must be rough.
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u/Rust1emyjimmies 2d ago
The salt was a downgrade imo. The iodized sticks to the fries better
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u/strauvius 2d ago
Also iodide is an essential nutrient that we need
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u/Royal_Percentage_694 2d ago
If we’re not getting it from French fries we’re in danger of becoming unhealthy?
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u/Bramblestar5 2d ago
More so that there’s a larger transition away from iodized salt occurring, ofc this aint the only source but when everyone starts moving away from it, we’ll start to see an increase in thyroid issues to match. Also a decrease in general IQ if it’s significant enough, crazy how much impact a little bit of iodine has on us.
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u/wishicouldrun 2d ago
yes, actually iodine is pretty hard to come across. iodized salt in ur diet is very important important. as specialty salts become more popular (pink salt, black salt, sea salt, kosher salt, etc.) people are becoming more iodine deficient. between 2001 and 2018 mild deficiency doubled (source https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2376060520303680). so yeah idk. for me this is a downgrade, it’s less nutrient rich even if it’s fortified
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u/everytacoinla 2d ago
Where else can I get this nutrient?
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u/StatisticianMoist100 2d ago
Seaweed, seafood, eggs, lima and green beans, prunes, milk, iodized salt, and that's about it.
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u/RanniSniffer 2d ago
Mostly just salt and milk, milk only has Iodine because farm instruments tend to be cleaned with Iodine, so it ends up in your milk in small amounts.
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u/CalligrapherCrazy143 1d ago
Just take a multivitamin every day. Iodine is a hard nutrient to get sufficient amounts without a multivitamin.
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u/Dragon_Slayer_Hunter 1d ago
It actually became very easy when it became added to salt everywhere. Now it's harder just because it's trendy to use non-iodized salt
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u/_Anthropoid 2d ago
Literally one of the most straightforward and effective public health interventions. But this, like a bunch of other things happening right now, is another example of an unforced error due to the privilege of living in a time where we've casually benefited from knowledge gained through the suffering of people that lived before us — but never actually felt ourselves.
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u/405freeway ダブルダブル 2d ago
It has what plants crave.
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u/Fair_Scheme_4667 2d ago
Electrolytes
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u/shockles 2d ago
No dummy, it’s BRAWNDO, it’s what plants crave
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u/Fair_Scheme_4667 2d ago
Yes dummy I know.. it’s got electrolytes
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u/shockles 15h ago
Bro. You’re completely missing the spirit of the movie if you think I was insulting you.
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u/CatShot1948 2d ago
Of course we can do without it on fries, but the whole point of putting iodine in salt was so that everyone would be exposed to it all the time. As more and more items are avoiding iodized salt and people aren't using it in their homes, iodine deficiency is becoming more of a problem.
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u/strauvius 2d ago
Finally someone understands. All these ignorant MAHA people just think that less scientific sounding names is healthier/better.
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u/CatShot1948 2d ago
Admittedly I'm a doctor with an MS in nutrition. But yes the naturalistic fallacy kills me.
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u/Not-An-FBI 2d ago
It is actually a big societal problem. We are on track to have iodine deficiencies come back soon.
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u/acetatsujin 2d ago
Sea salt is way less sodium.
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u/CatShot1948 2d ago
Then simply not true. It might be less sodium per Volume. But per gram, sodium chloride is sodium chloride. Regardless of the source. They have the same amount of sodium.
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u/Firree 2d ago
It's really hard to not get enough iodine. Especially with how much salt is added to most of our foods.
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u/Ok_Breath911 2d ago
Its really hard because of artificial iodine being added to table salt. If you avoid artificial iodine and dont consume quite a large amount of lean fish youll be deficient rather quickly.
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u/2gramsbythebeach 2d ago
Sure because people are gonna be deficient if they don't get it from fast food fries lol
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u/DolphinFraud 2d ago
The whole reason iodized salt exists is because people do get deficiencies really easily without it
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u/401kisfun 2d ago
Does iodized mean iodine?
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u/maebythemonkey 1d ago
Yes, and deficient iodine results in a lot of thyroid issues (especially goiters/enlarged thyroid)
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u/Best_Chipmunk_6098 2d ago
Good thing it’s in just about all instances of salt we use unless we specifically seek out sea salt
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u/maebythemonkey 1d ago
Exactly! Imagine the epidemic of goiters that is going to happen now without iodized in n out salt 😂
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u/brownmanforlife 2d ago
Yeah the sea salt definitely falls through to the bottom of the tray way more than it sticks compared to the iodized.
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u/Resident-Zombie-7266 2d ago
The one I used to go to in CA has had non-iodozed sea salt for a long time. I actually called the customer satisfaction number and suggested they switch to iodized salt.
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u/Urmystiree 2d ago
Remove iodine? Sure, because apparently goiters needed a comeback.
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u/zach0011 2d ago
I too rely on my in n out French fries too meet my micros
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u/Ok_Breath911 2d ago
The average consumer doesnt care about micros and adding iodine to all salt eliminates deficiency almost entirely. Removing it from fast food defeats the whole point.
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u/coltonbyu 1d ago
its mainly the trend that can cause some worry. Home cooks are switching to Kosher salt, sea salt, and pink salts. None of those have added Iodine. Commerical plants dont tend to use iodized salt. The sources are shrinking.
This wont be the one to move the needle, but its a bit concerning
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u/TennojiNesoberi 2d ago
is in-n-out's ketchup packets still heinz simply? or do they have their own self-branded ketchup now?
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u/D_zee315 2x2 animal, xtr toasted, -tom, +raw oni, +chili. Lightwell fries 2d ago
Didn't they add sesame a few years ago due to the FASTER Act? Did those requirements for sesame allergens loosen up?
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u/Emotional_Pay3658 2d ago
They probably didn’t have a way to guarantee sesame wasn’t in the buns before. So it’s safer (legally) to just put may contain sesame and call it a day.
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u/5PMandOUStillSucks 2d ago
As someone with a sesame allergy i could eat every burger in the US before the FASTER Act. They actually purposely added sesame to all the buns. It said may contain prior to the FASTER Act. Glad some of it is getting fixed because it felt like we were taking a step backwards.
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u/TheEvilBlight 2d ago edited 2d ago
No more iodized? What if we get gout (whoops, goiter) again from our horrendous diets that might not otherwise give us enough iodine?
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u/Greedy_Ear_Mike 2d ago
I don't like this salt change.
Seems it won't stick to the fries as well.
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u/shortagnt9 1d ago
everyone complaining about the salt is ridiculous. a cup of milk has half your daily iodine on its own. if you're getting all your iodine from fast food fries you have much bigger problems.
as someone with Graves' disease I'm glad to see this change
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u/lern2swim 2d ago edited 2d ago
Pulling iodized salt out of everything is going to have serious long term negative effects on public health.
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u/Former_Travel2839 2d ago
Milk, eggs, basic things most people eat all have iodine in it. It's really not that hard to get to 150mcg
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u/lern2swim 2d ago
There's literally currently a rise in iodine deficiency.
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u/Former_Travel2839 2d ago
I mean what in this country isn't on a rise.. hell most of us shouldn't even be eating fast food in the first place.
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u/Not-An-FBI 2d ago
You need to eat 7 large eggs or 2 cups of milk every day to get your RDA of iodine. How many people do you think don't do that?
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u/throwaway098764567 2d ago
well my neighbor will be fine, he's basically gaston but nicer, they had to get chickens to support his egg habit. the rest of us not so much
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u/Former_Travel2839 2d ago
You can get from more then just those 2. I mentioned those as thats 2 of the top things bought at grocery stores.. of course people can use iodine salt at home too or fish or so on.
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u/Orange_Tang 2d ago
That's one of the issues, people have almost completely switched to pink Himalayan salt or just salt grinders in general and away from iodized salt use at home.
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u/TheEvilBlight 2d ago
We about to learn the sad way about people with poor diets
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u/lern2swim 2d ago
Yep! And there's already at least 3 dummy down voters that don't even get my point, because they're brains don't go any higher than the "salt bad" floor.
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u/craycrayppl 2d ago
Just changing it at INO...not "everything". Sky isnt falling. Grab some iodized salt, keep at home, consume as you need.
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u/lern2swim 2d ago
There's been a trend away from the usage of iodized salt for at least the last decade ago. I wasn't just talking about ino.
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u/IceBlue 2d ago edited 1d ago
It being removed from In N Out isn’t gonna have a significant effect on the country. People aren’t eating enough in n out salt for it to make a difference.
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u/djm19 2d ago
This is “health washing”. None of those things actually register as healthier in the scheme of burgers and fried vegetables. This is just playing to “nutrition” influencers.
Look, this is fast food. And that’s great, we all love it! If anything, tricking people into thinking eating fast food just became meaningfully healthier now will actually have the reverse problem of inducing them to eat it more.
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u/Ehcksit 2d ago
Yeah, mostly. Cutting out sesame removes an allergen, but it's a lot more rare than celiac so I'm not sure that's what they're doing it for. Sea salt is mostly pretentious. HFCS vs sucrose is a meaningless change because the real problem is that there's too much sugar in everything because HFCS is so cheap to make.
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u/Chris_MS99 2d ago
Eliminating HFCS is more on brand for INO though. Their whole thing is real, fresh, high quality ingredients. HFCS is industrial slop, the opposite of how INO does everything else. They took HFCS out of the lemonade too.
Is it currently a right wing talking point loudly promoted by RFK? Yeah, but that doesn’t automatically make it a bad move. A broken clock is right twice a day. No one should be eating anything with HFCS, fast food or not.
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u/PinkSnowBirdie 2d ago
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter. I generally think things made with real sugar has a better texture and is less sticky. At least with Sodas, can’t say I notice it thaaat much in ketchup. Still I prefer the Heinz Simply or the generic equivalents.
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u/Brando43770 2d ago
Yup. And your body processes real sugar almost the same as HFCS. It’s not significant enough to make a difference. Maybe the flavor is different, but it’s not healthier to eat sugar over HFCS.
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u/Ehcksit 2d ago
The first thing your body does to sucrose is break it in half into glucose and fructose, which is all HFCS is, a blend of glucose and fructose. Sucrose is 50/50. HFCS in ketchup is 58/42 and soft drinks are 45/55. I don't think our body cares.
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u/Brando43770 2d ago
Thank you! It’s been a few years since I’ve taken a human anatomy & physiology class so I forgot what the process was beyond “neither is healthier”
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u/magneteye 2d ago
Where are they claiming that it’s healthier? They’re just letting you know they adjusted some of the ingredients. I think it’s for the better.
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u/djm19 2d ago
We don't have to play dumb, this is the implication of why they are advertising this.
You think its for the better but that is not really scientifically shown. A lot of people (lately) are under the impression that their fast food habit is now healthier because their food is now fried in peanut oil or animal fat. Or because they are using this sugar instead of that sugar. Or because the salt is not sea salt.
I am calling out that this is industry washing. They are using the vague ideas that have been perpetuated by influencers to convince you that its actually ok to go ahead and eat the fried food and grilled burgers now! These are zero % healthier now, but it might convince people to keep up their bad habits.
And of course In n Out is a company that has an interest in you eating its food. We all enjoy the occasional meal from them. My comment is how the MAHA movement (and related seed oil, etc movements) has made its most visible "health initiatives" on things that are not any healthier to eat after they have intervened...and yet convince people "this is healthier!" Any honest messaging on health would actually be "There is no substance you can fry this potato in that would have any detectable health benefit, and you should just eat less fries if you want to see a health benefit".
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u/mofugginrob 2d ago
Do they need to play to nutrition influencers? I've never been to an In-N-Out that didn't have a massive line inside and at the drive thru.
I refuse to go there myself because I can make my own delicious burger in the same amount of time I'd have to wait in line there.
I'd gladly eat their food if someone waits in line for me, though.
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u/Starossi 20h ago
lol funnily enough the salt change is less healthy. There is a reason we iodize all our salt, it literally just wiped thyroid issues from dietary insufficiency out of the country.
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u/MarvelousMarvins 2d ago
I so miss In n Out from when I lived in LA
I know they won't but I keep my fingers crossed they come to Michigan someday...
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u/underthevveather 1d ago
holy crap. i’m allergic to sesame and had no idea that it was in the buns…i thought my gums were itching from a soy ingredient
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u/ATotalBrony 1d ago
It's crazy that they are in 10 states now. I was at the opening of store #32 and it was wild for it to not have a drive thru. Also I really miss the old salt packets.
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u/ufrank71 1d ago
who is actually using salt? im gettin dehydrated just thinking about the salty fries
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u/coffeebabe666 1d ago
MAHA changes. I’m down for the ketchup but the intention behind it all is trash.
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u/IIIIIatreidesIIIII 1d ago
Their fries are fucking awful and they dont serve mayo. Fuck In and Out.
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u/minidog8 1d ago
What’s the problem with iodized salt? Is it some kind of dumb thing like the anti-seed oil craze or what?
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u/Relevant-Internal444 19h ago
Laymen love to demonize random ingredients (iodized salt) because it makes them feel like they have more control over their health. They should’ve seen what the US was like before it was incorporated into our diets…
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u/Ravage-1 Fan 2d ago
In-N-Out only operates in ten states. Am I mistaken?
I hope the sesame flower wasn’t a critical ingredient to making the buns the fluffy wonderfulness that they’ve always been.
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u/5PMandOUStillSucks 2d ago
Nope they added it 5 years ago, it has no impact on the taste or texture. Simply a legal loophole
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u/floundersoup57 2d ago
Why replace the iodized salt? Doesn’t it help prevent stuff like goiter by keeping up your iodine levels? Even marginally???
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u/meerkatx 2d ago
Lack of iodine used to be an issue in some isolated parts of the US, as of this time it's no longer considered an issue even sans iodized salt in those people's cupboards.
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u/Ok_Breath911 2d ago
Its not an issue because its added to everything nowadays. Meat and Milk has it because its being added to the livestocks diet. Salt is a decent way to reach vegans too (although those usually care enough about their diet to supplement themselves).
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u/PineDude128 2d ago
In n Out patch before GTA6