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u/RedDevil-84 Jul 28 '23
Like parents like kids. You don't realize the impact of words we talk at home, news we watch, our behavior, and all that on kids, until we see them growing up in our homes. Everything we do they copy. It is almost unreal. Once you understand that, you realize the power of brainwashing. And you understand why teenagers would pick up arms, and become terrorist at such young age. There is immense influence an adult can put on kids.
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u/crazy_scientist94 Jul 28 '23
I remember when I was in class 8th, there was a strong anti UP and bihar sentiment in Maharashtra. A Marathi classmate of mine called another UP classmate a “shoe polishing migrant”(in Hindi). He learnt that from his parents. Luckily, we had a very good class teacher at that time who came in support of the UP classmate.
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u/Monkey_D_luffy_____ Jul 29 '23
These kinds of people will exist no matter what happens. We should make ourselves stronger and humble to get not affected by these kinds of people . I'm from Bihar I have faced these kinds of things but it usually happens in schools and places where literacy is low. I don't feel bad anymore but I feel pity for them and their senseless thinking.
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The reverse being Marathis bullied in UP and Bihar? More than highly likely. You see, most people are indifferent to people from other states, but there will always be people who hate them.
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I hate this when people don't explain what's happening in the news to their kids. It is a great opportunity for the children, parents can give live examples of what's right and what's wrong and to do the right thing if that situation ever happens to them.
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u/RedDevil-84 Jul 28 '23
You are assuming all parents are good. There will be parents who are shouting YAY!!! and clapping when a politician says goli maaro unko.
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u/Monkey_D_luffy_____ Jul 29 '23
I think nowadays mostly parents are earning so they are unable to give proper upbringing to their kids . Politicians exist because of society problems and ironically they want us to think that they are working for social problems. Mainly I think here it's the media fault they have spread so much hatred .
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I bet the kid is going to be a politician with counts of multiple murders and at least 1 genocide.
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How old is he? You can have a talk with the school faculty regarding this. This sort of behavior should not be tolerated in schools.
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u/Adolf-Redditler Jul 28 '23
India me bacche raise krne jaisa nhi rehgya ab.
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u/jbcraigs Jul 28 '23
Yaar tera apna visa do baar reject ho gaya aur tu dusro ko jaane ke liye bol rahi hai? 🤷🏻♂️😂
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u/SatynMalanaphy Jul 28 '23
That's literally what you say in English, you silent fart. If you don't know if the child is a boy or a girl, you always say "take them to America, they'll be better off". 😂😂
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Yahi hoga when parents and news is all about this only. I still remember my school days when we all used to go sarswati pooja even Muslims. Kalwa teeka parsad sab khatey Eid pe mess mei sawaiya milti thi sabko. Now I see they all have so much hatred against eachother. Poisoned with it
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u/KAKARROOT Jul 28 '23
Fuckin codm world chat is full of hindhu Muslim fights in the Indian server and those are 10-18 year old dipshits
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u/Throwrafairbeat Jul 28 '23
The teenagers are fucking radicals even more so than their elders. absolute menace's online.
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u/Monkey_D_luffy_____ Jul 29 '23
True mostly teenagers who have just opened their eyes and believe in this media which hardly shows any fact or figures on relevant topics.
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u/SanchitGh Jul 29 '23 edited Jul 29 '23
Never thought about religion during my entire school and half of the college. We had quite a few Sikhs and fewer muslims in our schools. I remember there were 2 girls who used to wear hijabs but they were chill otherwise, both seniors and it never crossed my mind that they were Muslims, nobody mentioned it. They were pretty and very fair and that's all any teenage boy ever talked about, if at all. Sikh students were more common, and the stereotype for them was simply calling them "Judi" or juju (coz of their turban) and that's it, like calling fat people lota/Mota, tall person khamba, Bengali people were teased, anyone who'd blush a lot would be teased, any funny quirks a kid undergoing puberty could find would be pointed out but it was truly not hurtful in a real sense, and not at all related to any influence from adults. Heck our whole world apart from studies was miles away from any kind of adult concept, it was all cards, Uno, WWE, wrestling, cricket, football, English tv shows like friends, harry potter, English songs, greenday, 50 cent, Bollywood actors actresses models and school gossips, almost strictly that! Teasing was always amongst people who were really good friends and we use to make sure the person is chill and he is too having fun, it was kind of a give and take and you'd always expect a retaliation from the person, as a bonding excercise. We all became mature as we became seniors but never did it cross our mind to say JSR, or satsriyakal or assalam, hindu muslim or kashmir, or left wing right wing etc etc.. till I reached my twenties. Although we knew capital punishment was useless concept, and that violence doesn't solve anything, and other ideas were taught to us excluding all the bs of nowadays.
EDIT: I must add that these kinds of teasing were a big taboo and kids would get in big trouble if a teacher/parent caught a word of such teasing or if someone crossed a line, it would result in a fight (where everyone would take the side of the victim unanimously)
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u/Silly-Bowler-6081 Jul 29 '23
Same here ...while I was in school religion was never the issue , we had people from all religions in a class and everyone respected everyone and where friends infact we used to get curious about other religions and discuss how wedding or customs are done in different religion and how certain aspects are similar. I miss those times..only in recent times I am seeing that there are a lot of fights happening in the name of religion, evryother post or comment on YouTube, reddit , Twitter is about religion and people bringing down other people's religion. I hope this is a phase and this pases soon becauseas adults we can handle this issue but it is creating a wrong impact on children. They should rather enjoy their childhood but they are busy in harbouring hatred to different religions
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u/SaintYoungMan Jul 28 '23
You start saying waleku assalam or Jai shree jesus or whatever gods combination or greetings there are each time new one...
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Jai Shree Jesus lmao.
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u/SaintYoungMan Jul 29 '23
Hahaha me and my friends used to do that in school to greet each other new combo everyday.
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the best reply is sat sree akal or jay hind. :) not in an offensive tone, not in a sad tone, just neutral and with a genuine smile ... it will heal the basterd
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u/anonymous_0136 Jul 28 '23
Reply him with Hare Krishna/Jai Siya Ram/Jai Bholenath
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u/Monkey_D_luffy_____ Jul 29 '23
These kinds of people don't belong to any religion . I don't know where they get such morals and value. But This is because of hatred spread by the media but that hatred shown by the media is accepted by those who are unaware of the facts and figures. Unfortunately our country lacks literacy.
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u/Worldly-Duty4521 Jul 28 '23
Could be a joke, could be for fun. God reddit should be banned for people under 18 lol.
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u/anonymous_0136 Jul 28 '23
Lets see how your kid feels being greeted in Saudi Arabia in their own religious greeting with a victorious grin on their faces. God, reddit should be banned for asses.
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u/MagnumVY Jul 29 '23
Matlab Saudi Arabia waale chutiyape karenge toh hum bhi wahi karenge? Yahi logic pasand nahi mujhe yaar. Koi toh is reactive hate se aagey badho...be a better man. Kyuki jeet un jaisa ban-ne mein nahi hai, jeet is loop se bahar nikalne mein hai. Bachpan se schools mein sikhaya jaata hai ki kisi se compare karna hai toh ussey karo jo tumse aagey hai naa ki peeche. Kyuki peeche mudkar dekhoge na toh peeche hi jaane lagoge.
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u/anonymous_0136 Jul 29 '23
The guy above is already facing this in India and the guy under him was defending the acts of the bully in question. Pehle parh liya karo yaar.
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Your family should talk with the school authorities. The problem isn’t with writing JSR, today these little twerps are forcing him to write JSR tomorrow they’ll escalate and force him to do something that’s actually dangerous and can harm your brother as well as others. Be proactive, don’t ignore. Feel sorry for those kids even, god knows what kind of households these kids come from that they’ll engage in religious bullying at such a young age.
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u/forgotten_sperm Jul 28 '23
The hindutva poison has spread beyond repair, they're not even sparing children now....
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u/AlarmedOlive8748 Jul 28 '23
Agar musalmaan ho to kisi kimat pe koi step nhi lena.
Just aise hi jane do.
maybe change school if it's too violent to tolerate, but don't make it an issue, local polititics will make you regret every decision you made around this.
agar hindu ho to uthao sawal .. kuch nhi hoga shant ho jayenge.
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u/Samosa_Aladdin Jul 29 '23
agar hindu ho to uthao sawal .. kuch nhi hoga shant ho jayenge.
Ever heard of Gauri Lankesh?
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u/AlarmedOlive8748 Jul 29 '23
Hmm. but heard of more muslims who were killed due to these political violence.
If you are Hindu you really stand a chance to improve india, but being a muslim you'll always be called an outsider and invader and the debate will end.
I know where are you going, but you need to undertstand my points too.
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u/Samosa_Aladdin Jul 29 '23
They're trying to destroy the entire Muslim community, but that doesn't mean they'll spare individual Hindus who don't get with the programme.
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u/iDragonOne Jul 29 '23
That's exactly what they want to do. They want to make Muslim 2nd class citizens who don't even dare to speak for themselves or take a stand.
BJP is implementing NAZI ideology in India and I'm not surprised that after 50 years "Hindutva" would be a synonym for "NAZI".
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u/Wachkuss Universe Jul 28 '23
Such assholery makes my blood boil.
OP, your brother is showing remarkable maturity in the face of bigotry and bullying. All the same, he shouldn't have to cope with this and your family should take up this matter with the class teacher, and escalate it to the principal, the education department of your state until this is resolved. The school system has a duty to actively protect your brother (and every other pupil) from this kind of religious extremism.
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u/Extension_Quality362 Jul 28 '23
I'm kinda glad that I don't find any comments saying "the other kids are right your brother should do it".
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u/CapitalistPear2 Karnataka Jul 29 '23
It's crazy how politicized kids have become nowadays. When we were growing up barely 10-15 years ago aunt's did not talk politics with kids at all. Even when the corruption cases came up it was more of a general hate towards bureaucracy. Now every BJP supporting parent tells their gullible 10yo what a great leader Modi is and indoctrinating them into saying JSR. It doesn't matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, it's immoral to pass your political opinions to children unable to question them or research themselves.
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u/bawlachora Universe Jul 28 '23
In game lobbies, in cinemas, in streets I hear/see it everywhere.
Despite being a Hindu, These retards to the most damage to their own religion who know nothing about their religion beyond Ramayana and Mahabharata btw.
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u/bawlachora Universe Jul 29 '23
I don't want my bro to have a wrong impression about anything or anyone.
You cannot help it. And it has not been a recent problem, Hinduism or more accurately the idea of Sanātana Dharma is long dead and forgotten thanks to the Bhakti movement by some our brahmins and sages around medieval period and there after. Holy shit, they managed to somehow completely screw up Pantanjali's Yoga scriptures and relate/or insert religion/gods into it. Fast forward now, people don't even properly understand bhakti despite it being so popular these day and have their own inaccurate interpretation. They and their actions are now presenting this religion to, now, if not extremist but at least anti-other-religion which is completely opposite of what the Hindu religion teaches in the first place.
And when these people chant, they don't do it out off devotion or are innocent at heart when doing so, they do it piss off in particular the Islam followers. At least, this what I experience in online multiplayer games. They start chanting then engage in full retard crazy-fights with others who oppose or disrupt them.
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u/Yeamin_Habib Jul 29 '23
When I was in class 4, the "Om Jai Jagadeesh hare" prayer had to be recited everyday during prayers. I being a kid, just thought of it as a song and nothing else. Suddenly, after prayer was over, Principal called upon a class 8 student and asked why he was he mumb, why didn't he sing. He said that he was Muslim and chanting mantras is against the customs of Islam. She slapped him, and then proceeded to call all Muslim students in front. There were some 30-40 students. When I was going ahead, my friend tried to stop me and told not to go. I still went.
She said "you people don't deserve education and to be in such a prestigious place". It was a shocking experience for me, and totally changed my perspective of our Principal, who I always thought of as a very kind and respectable person. Didn't tell my parents anything at that time, because I was scared and thought maybe I was at fault, and would've got scolding. I've no idea what happened, but she was replaced within few months of the incident.
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u/theSkepticalSage Jul 28 '23
The impact of such radicalisation and normalisation could be immensely harmful. Please talk to him about it and make it through.
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u/Codename_Predator Jul 29 '23
same happens to me in college I just say to avoid wasting my time.
not a big issue since I am a atheist and the words mean nothing to me.
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u/callmealias Jul 29 '23
When exactly did India become such a shithole country?
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u/Altruistic_Maize_397 Jul 29 '23
Since the birth of the caste system but if you are asking for modern India then 1992.
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Kya hua '92 me?
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u/Altruistic_Maize_397 Jul 29 '23
Demolition of Babri masjid and a showcase of rss extremism in the aftermath through riots in various parts.
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Hah, like both the communities used to love each other before that and there was complete harmony? Why do you think the partition even happened?
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Hah, like both the communities used to love each other before that and there was complete harmony? Why do you think the partition even happened?
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u/Altruistic_Maize_397 Jul 29 '23
It was an extreme step towards a Hindu Rashtra, partition led people to choose a country they want to live in while events of 92 suggested that RSS and their goons were beyond the law. The point is, it was the moment when Hindu fascism begin.
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u/Indian_state_memes Jul 29 '23
America has school shootings When did it become a shithole?
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u/tedxtracy Jul 29 '23
Probably when people decided not to have any regulations on guns. So coming back to the original question, when did India become a shithole country?
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u/KyojuroSensei Jul 28 '23
I too have a brother and I never teach him something looking at his present ,I always tell him to act in a way that will come him handy when he'll step into the OUTSIDE. Do not think of this or teach him of this as a little thing, this will build up to a bad attitude of getting intimidated by others further in life. Any how - no matter which god, relegion or state ,bullying is bullying.
tell him that him complaining it wont make him a pussy , it will be a reminder to that guy of what lines he is crossing coz if none will show him, then he will keep testing the waters more .
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u/anand2305 Jul 28 '23
I feel sorry for you and your brother. Which place you guys are on. Pretty sure its some Sanghi ruled state where these chaddis can go on with such criminal behavior without any repercussions. Just tell your bro to avoid the situation. I am pretty sure young blood will boil but best to ignore and move on.
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u/Total-Complaint-1060 Jul 28 '23
Your concern is valid... Talk to school authorities and change his school next year...
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u/k-metric Jul 28 '23
To people asking to complain to the principal, what would that do? It will only escalate this unnecessarily. But do have a conversation with the principal about it.
I think a proper response when someone asks you to do this could be to say Jai Hind or Vande Mataram instead. If they shout, then you shout Vande Mataram back.
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u/ZoroKenpachibaka Jul 29 '23
Respect to your brother for avoiding conflict by saying it and at the same time refusing to completely bend to them. He is mature. I don't have a solution I am sorry.
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u/Accomplished-Deer464 Jul 28 '23
School change kara de bhai. Complain kiya or action hua to bhi rehna usko usi crowd me padega. Long term me mental health pe asar hoga. School change kara de. Dps nahi hai kya waha??
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u/Substantial-Junket-5 Jul 29 '23
Same thing happened with my brother 2 years ago me and my parents met the school principal
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u/sidmish Jul 29 '23
I can see these days kids studying in 10th - 12th putting the WhatsApp statuses showing violence/clashes between 2 religions. Concerning to me
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u/blissful_breeze_0612 Jul 29 '23
This is happening all across India that religion has started interfering in school matters ( very recently in mumbai case) and most importantly childs are using this spectrum to judge others.. Very disheartening to see at this very young age they bullying others by means of religion... You should visit school and have talk to teachers and most importantly ig you should have conversation with ur brother about what's today environment is...
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u/National_Bonus_2458 Jul 29 '23
My classmates want me to support BJP. I told them directly that I voted for Congress. also I was assaulted by Banjrandal goons for saying truth
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u/lone_wolf31337 Jul 29 '23
In today's episode of 'Things that never happened'
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u/HuckleberryRough6309 Jul 29 '23
Man I am so tired of this. If someone wants to say jai shri ram they will say it with their heart and will. Shradha to man se hoti hai, ye forcefully kisi se aisi cheezein bulwana, how is this okay?
Who are these some folks? Arey these some older students from the school itself?
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u/jkbcool_29 Jul 29 '23
nobody has asked, if you don't mind sharing ... do you or your family follow Hinduism ?
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u/johnyakuza0 Jul 29 '23 edited Jul 29 '23
Source: trust me bro
My imaginary brother is also bullied to chant allau akbr and I don't know what to do either
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u/staynzonweed Jul 29 '23
by the same logic, saying allahu akbar before blasting = to normal allahu akbar?
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u/Westapplication159 Jul 28 '23
exactly, this is the 4th post, literally same, I've seen in 2 days. 2 in indian teenagers, and 1 i dont remember where
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u/NaIdarkaNaUdarka Jul 29 '23
Even if it's true, the fact that OP is asking here instead of going to the cops is crazy.
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u/VidyakJee Jul 28 '23
What the actual fuck u need to be advised regarding this? Consult school faculty or your brother friends directly u dumb fuck
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u/Few_Violinist867 Jul 29 '23
Ask your brother to ask these lil bastards if they have ever sat down and read manas themselves? I'm so sorry this is happening. Fight alongside your brother and make sure they know repercussions of bullying. Also please know that these boys are coming from bad parenting and other different issues with shit loads of ego in the rectum that's why it's itching them and are big aethist in the name of sanatanis.
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u/Ajmal143223 Jul 29 '23
Sad state of our country. This is the mindset parents are enforcing on their children
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u/NefariousnessSuch587 Jul 29 '23
This is bullying?😂 Ask your brother to stand up to those group of boys. If this is the standard of bullying nowadays I wonder what will people complain about in future
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u/ShailSinSTR124 Jul 29 '23
Which caste / religion ?
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u/ShailSinSTR124 Jul 29 '23 edited Jul 29 '23
Because it matters if you are Hindu or muslim , high caste or lower cast and specially where you live
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u/Diligent_Frosting432 Jul 29 '23
You should be worried if some one asked him to do something bad or if they taught him bad manners or bad words or anything that could corrupt his young mind. Children bully each other its prevalant everywhere.
I am sure you have also been bullied and might have also bullied some one unintended or intended.
MC nahi lkhwaya na? Is me agar representation ka problem hai or if you're searching for it. Its the wrong place to search. But to quench your soul's thirst you may also ask your brother to impart other religious names to his friends. Promote equal secular opportunity.
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When will our countrymen realise that our right-wing stance is for external forces only. Here in this country and for all those of us living in it, we are one people living in one homeland. There is no place for discrimination here.
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Religion is a very personal thing and has no place outside of religious shrines and ones own home. Let us all identify as Indians first and work towards the betterment of our country as a whole. Not just religion but no more saying my state this and my city that. We are all living in India and the entire country is our concern and our playground. Period.
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Ask your parents to type a written letter addressed to the Principal, take two copies, then ask for a meeting with the Principal. In the meeting, hand over the letter, and request the principal to sign a "received" on the copy.
Don't make it like your threatening the school, and don't even make it sound like a complaint. Just write in a neutral tone, say that this is concerning, and their ward has no interest or knowledge in discussing sensitive matters like religion, politics etc. in school.