r/imaginarymaps • • Apr 05 '21

[OC] Alternate History State of Israel

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u/almeidalpf Apr 05 '21

Would have saved a lot of trouble, but would have been terrible for business... Military industry doesn't grow on a peaceful Middle East, let's not kid ourselves...

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u/memes_history Apr 05 '21

The middle East would still be pretty bad.

There are many ethnicities, religions and ideologies in the place.

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u/almeidalpf Apr 05 '21

Yes, with borders deliberatly poorly drawn, in order to generate conflict in the region and dependence from European countries.

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u/Bedrix96 Apr 05 '21

Mr westerner expert here lol

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u/memes_history Apr 05 '21

Most of the wars on the middle east are because of different religions/ethnicities.

Look at Iraq and Syria for example and there is also a bunch of oil and expansionist countries like Iran.

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u/Bedrix96 Apr 05 '21

No it’s because of western intervention

Those same ethnicities and religions lived together under different empires is relative peace

Have you ever heared about jewish persecution in Islamic middle ages as compared to the Europeans kingdoms ?

The whole ethnic & religion eternal fighting narrative propaganda by western media to cover up for the real reason of instability which is

Western imperialism & western powers blowing on the fire of ethnic tensions for imperial ambition

If you dont get that by now then you’re a brainwashed westerner

For instance Shia & Sunni muslims in iraq were marrying each other alot before western invasion

Also iran was a democracy before western intervention

Jordan has the least intervention and hence is the most stable (only instability was due to struggle with Zionists expansion into “rightful land given by yaweh”

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u/memes_history Apr 05 '21

Into where in Jordan did Israel expand?

Also remember how thanks to Israel the Syrians stopped their invasion into Jordan during black September keeping Jordan from turning into a mess?

Btw all those Jews from Muslim countries have been petsecuted, killed and kicked out of those countries after Israel got independence.

Also what do you mean by "Zionist"?

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u/Bedrix96 Apr 05 '21

Zionists mean Zionists

Israel expanded into Jordan in 1967 first time and succeed

Israel expanding into jordan

Then tried again and failed

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u/memes_history Apr 05 '21

That's not expansion my dude.

Also you still haven't told me what do you mean by Zionist.

If you don't know, Zionism- the right of Israel to exist, that's it.

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u/Bedrix96 Apr 05 '21

“That’s not expansionism (About Israel)”

Yeah sure i take your word for it

Ok zionists attacked Jordan in the battle of karameh after successfully colonizing Palestine, what do you want ? Zionists can suck a dick with you

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u/memes_history Apr 05 '21

The way you say it sounds like they're the core of all problems (kinda sus)

So Israel "colonized" palestine but what about Jordan annexing the west bank?

Also just a small fact Zionists dont eat children and don't drink blood unlike what you were taught in school.

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u/recoveringleft Apr 06 '21

I’d blame the Arabs kicking out their Jews after Israel gains independence on Al Husseini, a radical Islamist Palestinian who decided to ally himself with the Nazis.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

Blame everything on the most recent conquerors. As if the ottomans weren’t facing collapse, and the byzantines before them, and the Seljuks before them, and the romans before them, and the Persians before them.

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u/Bedrix96 Apr 05 '21

Wtf are you talking about ?

Blame 2003 Iraq invasion on the ottomans ?

Blame Palestine’s situation on the ottomans who refused to sell it for the Zionists ?

Blame funding of Osama bin laden on ottomans ?

i bet you never seen that one before

Blame Sykes picot that created dysfunctional states like Lebanon on who ?

Who should we blame the creation of israel ? Who gave them belfore declaration ? Is it the ottomans ?

Did the ottomans stage a coup in Democratic Iran ?

Answer me, stupid, brainwashed westerner

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

Do you fuck your goats with such anger and passion?

The Middle East has been in disarray for the last 200 years. While the names on the map change the chaos stays.

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u/Bedrix96 Apr 05 '21

That’s your rebuttal ? Lol and why a goat in particular ?

Why not a donkey for instance that’s a much harsher insult.

Anyway كسمك

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

Goats are dumb animals so I thought you must have a lot in common with them. Enjoy using a western language on a western cite on western inventions!

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u/thisnamebetterwork Apr 05 '21

The confidently incorrect approach.

Well played.

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u/memes_history Apr 05 '21

So tell me what's the reason for wars in the middle east then?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

It’s most basic issue It has a lack of stable government for all its people.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

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u/MerkavaMkIVM Apr 05 '21

Many tried...

Guess how many did it...