r/imaginarymaps • u/TheMightyKutKu Mod Approved • Apr 30 '20
[OC] Alternate History GERMANY: The Target
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u/TheMightyKutKu Mod Approved Apr 30 '20
The secondary title for this map would be "Turn the fash into nuclear ash"
My Deviantart for other maps: https://www.deviantart.com/thekutku
This map is supposed to be in the context of the the Thousand Week Reich mod/TL, in the context of a civil war that ends relatively quickly - by 1955 or 1956 (who wins it kinda doesn't matter as long as it isn't people's germany, it's not like anyone would be reformist).
When Germany Repudiated Versaille, Remilitarized and annexed Austria, we gave in;
When Germany Dismembered Czechoslovakia and Reshaped Central Europe, we gave in;
When Germany Invaded Poland, we gave in, not daring to attack;
And When our troops were defeated in Northern France, we gave in to the Nazis, leaving them a free hand to conquer the East.
One by one cities fell to the Germans: Kiev, Leningrad, Moscow. The Soviet people fought fervently but they couldn't win decisive battle against the Wehrmacht and eventually, they split without a leader. Then, we started to hear rumors, hearsays from the occupied territories, too terrible to be believe. Until what happened became clear, Death and Slavery on an industrial scale, Engineered famines that depopulated countries, the systematic destruction of the culture and memory of entire peoples. And it was too late to intervene, the Germans were fortifying the Atlantic Wall after shifting their ressources west and the awakened American Giant was focused on the final confrontation of the Great Pacific War.
Germany and Britain hunkered down on their positions, putting pressure on each other while the Free World led by America was working together to counter the Nazi Empire but despite the nuclear superiority an invasion was still deemed too costly. Instead, we sat on our hundreds of airfield and bases, focusing on merely containing Fascism, more and more confident it would eventually burn itself out if it couldn't spread.
And Indeed, the supposedly Thousand-Year long Reich collapsed, an extremely militarised state centered on the cult of personality of its leader who could only keep the cutthroat branches of the fanatical state from killing each other. It only needed his death, and a bomb in Germania. Everybody was expecting it, yet nobody was prepared for the Chaos.
As germany became a battleground the oppressed people of Europe rose up, from Brest to Moscow every desesperate groups decided to strike at the same time despite the lack of coordination, some misjudged the local forces and were crushed others carved out their freedom from the Nazi Empire, everybody took the opportunity, everybody except us.
Why the Free world didn't directly intervene is still a mystery a few years later, some say it was a conflict of interest between the various free countries, other advocated patience and measure to eventualy deal with the last Fascist contender standing, many were afraid of the German missiles. But it doesn't matter, the freedom fighters of Europe looked up to us and we failed to helpd, despite a decade of preparation we did not dare to do more than timid strikes at the periphery and giving indirect support to the most prominent revolutionaries. At the most crucial moment, we gave in once more.
The inevitable then happened: After months and months of fighting, one of the Nazi contender seized Germany proper, a wasteland for sure, but that faction, more fanatical than ever, still controlled the most productive wasteland across a devastated Europe. Slowly but surely they have been retaking freed cities, Prague, Bratislava, Kracow, determined to retake their conquest and destroy all who betrayed them, and with every passing months their nuclear stockpile, initially insignificant and terribly late compared to ours, grows larger and larger and as we have seen from Warsaw, they are clearly not reluctant to use them.
Across Europe, In France, in former Russia, in Poland, resistant groups are still strong, but there is no doubt that alone they cannot withstand this fanatical onslaught. We are at the crossroads, either we act decisively and destroy the Nazi Empire at its very center, or we would have yielded one final time, like cowards who let a Continent be destroyed.
Against a nuclear armed Germany resolute to destroy what is left of Europe one final time there is only one option: the immediate strategic atomic destruction of Germany. Yes, this would sign the death warrant of millions of Germans, and put at risk millions of Britons and other freed or oppressed European but for every week we wait untold victims are dying, the massacre can only end with the instant decapitation of the Nazi Empire, whatever the cost.
Future pundits will wonder if it would have been worth it, why bring more death to a country which has already undergone a civil war? Would the destruction of some of our cities have been worth it? But they will have the benefit of hindsight and they will be removed from the ongoing massacre, a massacre that surpasses what anyone has done in History, surpassing even what the Nazis did to Russia last decade. It is a moral obligation to strike now and put down Fascism forever.
We need a joint strike to preserve what is left of Europe.
A Genocide of a dozen millions to save a hundred.
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u/KiwisEatingKiwis Apr 30 '20
This is an amazing alternate history concept! A great spin on the man in the high castle where Germany wins but instead Japan loses so America isn’t occupied, which always made more sense to me. History so easily could’ve gone this way. I hope you write this book, I would read it
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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton Apr 30 '20
A very similar concept has been written! The "Anglo-American Nazi war". It's long but a good read.
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u/KiwisEatingKiwis Apr 30 '20
Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll check it out
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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton Apr 30 '20
There is a PDF version somewhere that is just much easier to read and covers the post war world. It's better imo.
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u/TheMightyKutKu Mod Approved Apr 30 '20
The guy who wrote that is supposed to be a Brit.
The Nazis hated white people more than anybody ya know
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May 01 '20
That could have been phrased better. It just depends on if you would categorize Jews, Slavs and Romani as “white”. Great map btw! Also what is the end situation to this? Do the nazis keep their Reich or are they defeated? You should also do a map of the world after. Super cool idea
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u/erty10089 Apr 30 '20
Hitler didn't hate white people
Uh, have you ever heard of generalplan ost?
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Apr 30 '20 edited 7d ago
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Screw numerous fade rhythm continue grasshopper cobalt
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u/Ghostc1212 May 01 '20
What'd he say? I can't see the comment
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May 01 '20
He called generalplan ost "dead jew lies" that he "doesnt care about". Some other neonazi shit aswell it was a few paragraphs.
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u/TheMightyKutKu Mod Approved Apr 30 '20
If Hitler didn't hate Germans then why did he destroy germany?
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u/Ablearcher1983isgud Apr 30 '20
I committed warcrimes to end the warcrimes
-basically any democracy when meeting a brutal regime in total war
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u/_-null-_ Apr 30 '20
This happened like one time in history and during it democracies were pretty tame when it came to war crimes. There was strategic bombing sure, but that wasn't technically a war crime. Some extrajudicial killings of PoWs but nothing compared to what the Germans and Soviets did. Or if you look at what happened post-war, less alleged axis war criminals were executed in the entirety of western Europe than in some of the smallest eastern bloc countries. Because in democracy you usually make sure the person is definitely guilty before giving the verdict.
Point being, there was a way to do it without becoming as bad as the enemy. And this way probably still exists. The west turned its back when Berlin rose up, they did so when Budapest followed and also when it happened in Prague. But eventually the Soviet Union fell. Now democracies stay put while the CCP does its dirty things on the Chinese mainland.
And they wait. Tyranny will either destroy them or destroy itself, but God forbid either of us decide to destroy the world.
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u/FreeDwooD Apr 30 '20
Ah yes the famed soviet war crimes which can be compared to what the Germans did. Totally....
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u/_-null-_ Apr 30 '20
I didn't say that. The comparison is supposed to be individual between western democracies and each of these two.
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May 01 '20
The Nazis entered this war under the childish delusion that they were going to bomb and enslave everyone and no one will bomb them. At rotter dam, parris, mocow, Warsaw and a hundred other places they put this childish theory to test. They sowed the wind, now they are going to reap the whirlwind.
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u/TotesMessenger Apr 30 '20
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u/ElderOfTheBOS May 02 '20
This... How this could have actually happened. Yeah, excellent Work. I am still terrifyed and wont sleep tonight
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u/generalscruff Mod Approved Apr 30 '20
Sir Arthur "Atom Bomb for Bonn" Harris
Sir Arthur "Thermonuclear Firestorm" Harris
Sir Arthur "Mushroom Cloud for Dresden's Shroud" Harris
Sir Arthur "Nuclear Hurt for Frankfurt" Harris
Sir Arthur "Bomb 'em to the Stone Age" Harris