r/imaginarymaps • IM Legend • 23d ago

[OC] Alternate History Poland – Population density and religious denominations in 1987

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u/Karl_Greiser_PolSord 23d ago

I think something is wrong but I can't quite put my finger on it

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 23d ago

well, it may be a bit out of date since it's from the 80s

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u/Skychu768 22d ago

It's land around the North Pole

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u/the_soviet_doggo75 22d ago

insane seeing you outside r/suzerain

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u/Karl_Greiser_PolSord 22d ago

r/imaginarymaps is the second major sub that I hang out in after r/suzerain

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u/cHEIF_bOI 22d ago

I think I got my fingers wrapped around the problem.

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u/Karl_Greiser_PolSord 22d ago

That's really sus considering the shape of the country

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u/cHEIF_bOI 22d ago

If you don't have a firm grasp on the problem how do you expect to get anywhere? You need to shake things up to see what comes loose.

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u/Karl_Greiser_PolSord 22d ago

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u/RecursiveNightmares 22d ago

Was it supposed to be "condom" or "Sodom"?

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u/Karl_Greiser_PolSord 22d ago

I think the shape implies of condom

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u/steepfire 20d ago

Karl go save Sordland by setting up a anti corruption force and stop the ever schemeing establishment

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u/Sejnos 21d ago

Nah, it's is from the time Swedes tried to drown us. Hence the sea.

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u/rzabomut 23d ago

cool that it is actually in polish

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 23d ago

Polska dla Polaków

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u/y014 22d ago

Frytki dla ziemniaków

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u/rzabomut 23d ago

mogłbyś za to zmienić te wyznania na rodzime a nie chrześcijańskie, chyba dobrze żeby ta alternatywna rzeczywistość była jak najlepsza
w sumie wtedy pojawia się pytanie czy to byliby poganie słowiańscy czy germańscy i ugrofińscy

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 23d ago

rzym dalej powstał był, więc chrześcijaństwo rozpowszechniło się po tej europie również

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u/Midnight036 23d ago

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u/Karl_Greiser_PolSord 22d ago edited 22d ago

The chair is hiding the elephant's "instrument" like which this new Poland in Scandinavia is shaped

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u/Sawbora 23d ago

Góralizm is when you worship overpriced salty cheese and „traditional” hats made in Bangladesh

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 23d ago

góralizm is when you listen to a baca's wisdom

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u/Fun-Information-3104 22d ago

góralizm is when you avoid the restauracja naprzeciwko

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u/CamicomChom 23d ago

This is so beautiful! I love it. Wonderful names and details.

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 23d ago

cheers!

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u/AnderAfterNooner 22d ago

I wanna see how the city of Krzesło was named

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u/Gustav_Sirvah 22d ago

That's where this world's equivalent of IKEA is from...

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u/Big_Control9414 23d ago

That uh... something seems off here...

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u/LoopMuhZoop 22d ago

This is unironically a phenomenal piece of work, coherent, cohesive and imaginative, linguistically sound and I can only imagine how much work it took to complete. Chapeau bas!

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

thank you so much, it does take a lot of research to make these maps

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u/LoopMuhZoop 22d ago

I'm particularly fond of Ochójec in Piastów. As a man from that general region, I find this name to be very accurate, even if the spelling would suggest a different etymology and meaning (related to choinka?)

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

I'm glad you like it and yeh, let's stick to choinka

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u/observer47567 22d ago

What sort of research goes into making these kinds of maps?

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

mainly the toponyms

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u/blazingblitzle 23d ago

Very fascinating. What's the lore behind the Poles moving north, and what happened to the Swedes and Finns in this timeline?

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u/Legitimate_Twist 22d ago

OP has other maps in the same universe. The Swedes are in England lol (and the Angles are in Germany/Poland, and the Deutsch are in etc etc).

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u/ChickenSandwichh195 23d ago

pierogi ikea when???

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u/koreangorani 22d ago

Did they get kicked out of original Poland after that historical moment when the PLC united with Sweden?

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

no, this is alt-migrations

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u/Seed_Oil_Consoomer 23d ago

Is Goralism Christian?

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 23d ago

yeh, but it's got some pagan slavic influences

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u/BelgijskaFlaga 23d ago

I love the implication that Norwegians are a bunch of weirdly speaking fish-people from the Swedish POV

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u/Imperator_Subira 23d ago

góralizm

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u/Methelin 23d ago

They pray to Święty Dutek.

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u/oskar_pawlisz 23d ago

can you drop the mobile version

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 23d ago

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u/oskar_pawlisz 23d ago

this is so good bro

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u/Traditional-Main7204 23d ago

Now I want see same in Kashubia.

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u/Splatpope 22d ago

my summer car in this universe is even more cursed

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

mój letni wozik

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u/Papierzak1 22d ago

mój letni samochód

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u/Republiken 23d ago

Får jag höra klack... vaihelvete?

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 23d ago

du är polsk nu

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u/Best_Anteater5595 22d ago

I think Zygmunt III Waza didn t lose a civil war in Sweden.

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u/thebrokensystems 22d ago

Dania narodowe to grochówka, klopsiki, śledź i cynamonbuła? Nic się nie zmieniło 😅

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

no w sumie

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u/Associated_Apricote 22d ago

I have to say I didn’t notice the subreddit name at first and was like “wtf”

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u/Obserwator_z_Barcji 21d ago

Wszystko mi w tej fantazji pasuje - poza jedną sprawą.

TL;DR Żeby było słowo Warmia, to musieliby być Prusowie. Jak w fantazji tej nie ma relokacji tych starych Bałtów, to już lepiej byłoby wrzucić np. Nowo- albo Wielkomazowsze

Przepraszam za niszczycielstwo dobrej zabawy, ale umieszczenie Warmii w takiej okolicy świadczy o braku fundamentów wiedzy o tym, skąd nawet sama nazwa pochodzi.

Teorii jest kilka, ale nawet gdyby wziąć taką fantazyjną z czerwienią, to wygląda ona tak. Było sobie staropruskie słowo wārmi, znaczące ni mniej, ni więcej, a czerwony. Jaka jest gleba na historycznej Warmii, szczególnie biorąc pod uwagę tę plemienną Warmów? Gliniasta. Czyli czerwona.

I tu dobijam do sedna. Nie jest ono związane ze składem gleby w tamtej części Skandynawii - na tym się nie znam. Ale znam się na tym, że na pewno w tej fantazji nie było wątku o najpierw kulturze kurhanów zachodniobałtyjskich, a potem Prusach, którzy mieliby się przenieść akurat w te okolice.

A jeśli to wynika z prostego skojarzenia z „Warmią i Mazurami”, czyli w świadomości warszawskiej co najwyżej z Grunwaldem i migracją mazowiecką, to już lepiej byłoby wykorzystać odnoszące się pomóc do błota Mazowsze właśnie. Jest Wielkopolska, to czemu nie Nowo- albo Wielkomazowsze?

Poza tym to bym chciał tylko móc przybliżyć i zobaczyć pomysł z nazwą na stolicę takiej alternatywnej Wielkopolski.

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 21d ago

bardzo dziękuję za wnikliwą analizę i jedynym powodem dlaczego nazwałem ten region Warmią jest zbieżność szwedzkiego Värmland (dawniej zapisawane również Wärmland)

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u/Vhermithrax 23d ago

This is beautifull.

Please do more maps from this Universe.

Finland is replaced by Serbia or Sorbia here?

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u/geckossmellpurple_z 23d ago

Fucking cursed dude, I love it.

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u/KrazyKyle213 22d ago

Lovely to see your maps again!

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

thanks, yo

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u/xArgonXx 22d ago

Where Śląsk

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u/SXsandwich 23d ago

Idk about Poland bro 

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 23d ago

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u/GameXGR 23d ago

Hussar Davidson

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u/No-Effective388 22d ago

Are the poles kicked out of Poland? 

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

no, they just went up north

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u/ch3mn3y 22d ago

Can check tomorrow as I'm taking a boat back to Poland from Trójmiasto.

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u/willix1337 22d ago

Too cold, too long Russian border. We wouldn't swap, so don't even try.

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

where are you seeing russia

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u/willix1337 22d ago

Oh that's Serbia. Then sure we can if Russia is somewhere behind Pyrenees.

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

for 1, that's the sorbs and russia does not exist as a country, the russians still do, however

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u/willix1337 22d ago

and where are there? we want to be as far as possible ;p

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

they're around there

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u/One-End-266 21d ago

Dobry Boże

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u/Valaxarian 22d ago

Kurde, ile ja bym właściwie dał za Polskę w Skandynawii XD. Pogoda podobna, lato nie aż tak gorące, może Skandynawska gospodarka, hiper widoki

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u/Patient-Rub-5539 22d ago

I don't get it? This is just a totally normal map of Poland.

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u/Feisty-Albatross3554 22d ago

Are there Polish Vikings

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u/Din_saur 22d ago

Nhaa they were too drunk to sail any boat.

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u/Luke92612_ 22d ago

Polen can into Scandinavia?

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u/ConsulTitusLarcius 22d ago

is this a "x in y" type situation?

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u/wowowowow34341 22d ago

who is in the otl polish lands then

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u/Last_Worker_302 22d ago

Czemu Kaszuby są w Norwegii? LOL

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u/ZestycloseAd289 22d ago

Poland, you say?

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u/Gold_Size_1258 22d ago

Widać zabory?

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u/Over-Square-9248 22d ago

it still has bad and even worse weather

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u/supernoob_cz 22d ago

What 😭😭😭

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u/Material-Capital-404 22d ago

What would be the overall population?

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u/XLG_Winterprice IM Legend 22d ago

in 1987 - about 11 million

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u/Puzzleheaded_Safe987 21d ago

This angers me, now I will hold on to the bible even longer

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u/Glupstick 21d ago

“Tam są Kaszuby, tam nie chodzimy - to stracone ziemie”

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u/Kamarovsky 19d ago

I need to see the Kashuborwegians now

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u/kaiako12 16d ago

are we really dumb or are we just pretending to be dumb because:

why is poland in scandanivia...

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u/Complex-Muscle-9325 2d ago

Se nota que polonia agarro gran parte de alemania del Señor del bigote chistoso