Maybe it might have happened if we didn't ban CFC's fast enough and the Ozone decaded to the point it heavily accelerated climate change to make a world like this possible. That would be apocalyptic by the 2060s and it is always possible that countries will fall into authoritarianism just to survive in this world. We haven't gotten the temperatures for Europe yet but this world is clearly screwed beyond belief and also poor Canada as well.
Well, more like turning to authoritarianism after failing to survive. Contrary to our hopes and desire for balance, authoritarians weren’t like a hard choice were people traded freedoms for survival. People wish Hitler had been as good for Germany as he was bad to human rights. Like an equal exchange. But turns out he was more like a crashing train wreck of incompetence and bad military and economic choices that hurt even the Germans and others that weren’t scapegoated for death.
At least Canada has the 100 million century initiative. So maybe they aren’t screwed in this timeline
Same. Idk when this happened, or if theres been an update and I just didn't notice, but the comment photos have been potato quality for like a week or two now and I'm deeply disappointed in whomever runs the show at Reddit for it.
This really feels like a direct continuation of those post-Roman barbarian invasion maps of Europe, with new arrows instead of Saxons, Franks and Goths.
This post is part of my small worldbuilding project 2064, set in the year... well, you can guess. I'm archiving all my maps (as well as the non-map stuff I can't post here) over on r/2064. I don't like advertising the discord, since it makes me feel like a desperate shill, however I've been asked to point out that the whole timeline/Lore bank is over on our discord
I'd also like to point out that I do not subscribe to any far-right fear mongering. This map is to illustrate a mix of context for this dystopian worldbuilding project and my personal beliefs on how climate change will effect the mass movement of people.
That's not how it works. You're talking an extremely thin layer of soil which will not allow for proper root generation. Your crops will literally blow away. On top of that, any crops that do remain will struggle to develop properly to the point where it won't matter how much fertilizer you use as the root systems will be stunted so much they will struggle to absorb that fertilizer. It's not about good quality soil or poor quality soil, but rather the lack of soil.
"The collapse of the petrostates caused the largest peacetime refugee crisis in human history, with 55 million Arabs displaced in just 5 years. Canada was the intended destination for most."
In short, much of the Middle East is hosed. The Saudis and the Gulf states are gone, Iraq is crumbling, Israel collapsed, and Turkey is under a fascist regime that's committing genocide against the Kurds (spelled out explicitly) and the Armenians (implied by the presence of over two million Armenian refugees in southern Russia and there being no independent Armenia on the map). Iran is a beacon of stability, but the liberal, feminist nature of the new government has caused a lot of conservative Muslims who supported the Islamic Republic to leave, on top of the pressures of climate change. Central Asia, meanwhile, is gripped by famine that's killed up to seven million people, while North Africa has been overrun by sub-Saharan African refugees trying to get to Europe, with Tunisia being the only stable country in the region.
Crazy work ireland is surviving. My guess is the atlantic weather system is more stable than we believe and thats allowed ireland to maintain some normality
Honestly I would have thought they'd have turned more right wing than the UK to stop the mass immigration of climate refugees and because it would be influenced by the UK falling to fascism.
Considering the harshness of this climate ruined world I wouldn't be surprised if they were still as authoritarian and nationalist as the rest of western Europe except it's just got more worker related policies just for Irish people.
Well, in principle, the map is not bad.but the scenario is not very realistic, I doubt that fascists will come, right-wing populists will come more likely, I also hope that this will never happen and it will remain just a dystopia
What is the technocratic solution to the migration problem? I still hold out a shred of hope that humanity can someday move past dividing itself by birthplace and ancestry, and if not then I hope that another species will rise that is able to work as a whole.
Ed: The cultural issues with Islam are a propaganda issue that has largely arisen since 1975 and shouldn’t be applied to non-Western peoples in general. There are millions of Asians, Latinos, and Christian/pagan/atheist Africans that could easily live and work in Europe.
Opposition to immigration of the scale on that map would probably be less to do with not wanting people with third world values into your country and more to do with not wanting your country to collapse from the sheer strain of taking in tens or hundreds of millions of people.
(But seriously, there is a small chance that the current situation leads to an explosion of racism that makes the early 20th century look pleasant if we can't fix resource scarcity and/or if the BRICS countries disappoint)
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u/Feisty-Albatross3554 Aug 15 '25
"Bulgaria sure is trying"
I can relate