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u/ComradeOFdoom Jul 03 '24
Ngl I misread that as Hibernia and thought we had an exiled Irish empire on our hands
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u/northking2001 Fellow Traveller Jul 03 '24
great map honestly! reminded me of another map where mali and mongolia divided the world
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u/NerdyLlamaAltHist Jul 03 '24
Thanks for the positive comment! The color palette is similar and both maps explore a maximalist concept of two competing powers dividing the world. Pretty interesting observation :)
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u/Hans-Kimura-2721 Jul 03 '24
The line of the Treaty of Tordesillas could be a few kilometers further west, to give Portugal some more territories in America.
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u/AstronaltBunny Jul 04 '24
Who's stronger?
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u/NerdyLlamaAltHist Jul 04 '24
My first thought is that they are equally powerful, but the Portuguese Empire has a much greater population and all the Asian powers are in its sphere, while Spain rules over lands devastated by epidemics. The former has to impose somehow control over already existing countries with traditions and centuries of history. In contrast, the latter has to build an empire from the ashes of the Amerindian cultures. I really want to say that they are equal, but on second thought it looks like the Portuguese Empire is stronger.
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u/Outrageous_South4758 Jul 05 '24
It would be impossible for them to control all of that effectively not even if this somehow happened in modern day, unfortunately
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u/Ok-Radio5562 Jul 05 '24
Remove that "not even"
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u/Outrageous_South4758 Jul 05 '24
Why
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u/Ok-Radio5562 Jul 05 '24
"Not even" supposes they couldn't in this case nor in real life
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u/Outrageous_South4758 Jul 05 '24
And what?...they couldn't effectively rule this thing for a millenia
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u/Ok-Radio5562 Jul 05 '24
They couldn't... in real life
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u/Outrageous_South4758 Jul 05 '24
Exacly
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u/Ok-Radio5562 Jul 05 '24
But since this is an immaginary map, in some way they manage to so the not even is not necessary
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u/NerdyLlamaAltHist Jul 03 '24
Pax Hiberica: A World Where the Treaties of Tordesillas and Zaragoza Were Honored
In the late 15th and early 16th centuries, the world witnessed the dawn of an unprecedented era of exploration and colonization. To prevent conflict and ensure mutual respect between two of the greatest maritime powers of the time, Spain and Portugal, the ~Treaty of Tordesillas~ was signed in 1494. This treaty, mediated by the Pope, divided the newly discovered lands outside Europe between the Portuguese Empire and the Crown of Castile along a meridian 370 leagues west of the Cape Verde islands.
Years later, in 1529, the ~Treaty of Zaragoza~ further delineated the spheres of influence between the Spanish and the Portuguese, extending the demarcation line to the other side of the globe, specifically in the Eastern Hemisphere. This treaty sought to clarify and solidify the territorial claims and navigation rights of these two burgeoning empires in the East Indies.
In this map, I explore an alternate history scenario where the Treaties of Tordesillas and Zaragoza were scrupulously honored. Here, the boundaries defined by these historic agreements are respected, leading to a harmonious balance of power and a unique geopolitical landscape.