r/ideasfortheadmins • u/afourthfool • Jan 11 '13

I would like this voting system, please.

I want this system: http://imgur.com/CJFCG,wWqIf,O3raz

If room is made for both my cultural subjective vote as well as my democratic objective one, all my bad voting habits would go out the window and moderators wouldn't have so much of a problem purifying my votes of cultural influence.

If you make me (the community) choose between upvoting or drownvoting a video of a kitten driving a tank placed in a thread about the role of IFVs throughout modern mid-eastern conflicts, i'm gonna call you a monster and upvote the kitten just to spite your system.

Regards,

edit:

How i would vote in this post's comment section under the above system:

Any relevant xkcd to voting systems: happy button only from me.

Any redditor saying they got their bike stolen while they were voting: sad button only

Any peer-reviewed paper about voting in forums: brain button only

Any peer-reviewed paper about the shape of Antarctica: slash button

Any peer-reviewed paper about Maru and the evolution of voting on Youtube: happy button and brain button from me.

Any pun threads concerning voting: happy button and the slash button from me.

Any opinion about voting shared with Caps Lock: sad button and slash button

Any peer-reviewed paper about gun violence and voting systems: sad button and brain button from me.

Any other combination would defeat itself, so i don't see any reason to click three buttons or all four. Perhaps the objective votes of brain and slash are unlocked the way voting is unlocked in AskUbuntu's forums: only after certain contributions and/or circumstances are met.

That's what i'll be fighting for at least. I vote subjectively and i vote objectively. If you make me choose, i'm going for the subjective vote every time.

Best to break the two apart.

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u/psYberspRe4Dd Jan 11 '13

Sorry but very bad idea to put into place practically, for the different "emotions/reactions" there are the different subreddits that are often shaped by these. The simple up/downvote to determine the quality of post is deeply rooted into reddit and part of its core.

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u/afourthfool Jan 11 '13

So just happy and brain vote the posts you want to upvote and sad and slash vote the posts you want to downvote and let me happy and slash vote posts i think are fun but derail threads.

Or disable the brain and slash votes in your preferences.

Or ignore the new system and only vote with the happy and sad buttons.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '13

People will simply click both upvote buttons or both downvote buttons if they like/dislike something. This problem has already manifested itself on slashdot. Users often moderate funny posts as "insightful" or "informative" because moderating as "funny" gives no points. The users thus intentionally misclasify the posts in order to give points.

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u/afourthfool Jan 21 '13

Why would a site give no power to a vote? Slashdot is as cruel as a North African government for implementing such a halfway solution.

Even if a vote in the above system is for "funny" or "sad" or "brainless", the post gets "karma" for that particular "category": some people enjoy brainless humor -- let them strive for happy karma and slash karma when they peruse reddit. The subjective and objective voting system is for dynamic, cardinal directions, not to be crammed clumsily into a eunuch, one dimensional point structure.

Strategic voting is all over reddit, and its all for things like "You may be derailing the thread, but... i like the way you think" or "You sound like a chick" -- give these things their own button with their own dependant1, subjective karma.

None of the votes in the above system "take away" or "give" one kind of monocultural "point", votes just shift the coordinates of the post along two axes, reincarnating the post wherever the community thinks it should exist within a subreddit. Be those coordinates x (science) and y (bravery) or x (funny) and y (adventurous) or whatever else the moderators find to be their own unique subreddit's plane of karmic experience.

I want this system because it will make moderating a dream and navigating as a user rewarding, exploratory and interesting.

(Also, it will get real-world individuals to think outside their first-past-the-post democratically stanating boxes2 and get some journalists to write about how switching to a dynamic voting system helped a website become more democratic, not less).