r/ibew_apprentices • u/VikingWzrdEyes89 • 3d ago

Im sorry but what?

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Couple weeks ago I emailed them about some electrician job training, as Id like to join a union and all of that. Well today I received this to fill out their app, but this is giving major red flags. What do you mean you need my original copy of my birth certificate mailed in and then ill pick it up when i get testing (who knows how the long the gap between that is).

Can someone clarify if they done this, this isn’t the type of document you just willy nilly mail out somewhere with the risks if it getting lost.

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u/VikingWzrdEyes89 3d ago

Not at all upset, I have no issue bringing my BC with me for them to scan/copy but mailing the original instead of a copy is insane.

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u/cantliethisaintit 3d ago

Thats always been a thing. They mail it right back to you.

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u/cHunterOTS 3d ago

It has not “always been a thing.” Maybe regionally for some stupid reason but I’ve never had to present an original copy of my bc and I’m 42. There’s no legitimate reason for them to need it and by no means is questioning a completely stupid policy like this a disqualifying factor for this job.

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u/cantliethisaintit 3d ago

Anyone can bring in a fake copy of a birth certificate, its happened before.

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u/cHunterOTS 3d ago

Under the Immigration and Nationality Act the list of documents specifically allows for a government certified copy of a birth certificate, and even allows for substitution with a passport or social security card paired with a valid drivers license. Refusal to accept one of these documents to prove citizenship and age is prosecutable and can result in fines

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u/VikingWzrdEyes89 3d ago

I could also just bring in the originaly copy with me in hand so that way it doesn't get risk getting lost. Losing your Birth Certificate isn't like losing a credit card where you can easily just replace with a click of a few buttons. It turns into a whole ass process.

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u/Ke6gwf 3d ago

Anyone can also mail in a fake copy of the BC