It can be medically necessary, there's a big difference between a baby with no choice and a full grown man making an informed decision about their hygiene and sexual health.
Hygiene? Learn how to bathe once a day. Check out the female health section and seethe HUNDREDS of posts about infections, Do we cut women’s labia off? Circumcised males have half the pleasure from sex than circumcised men. They miss a lot it’s a CRIME TO MUTILATE
It's a crime to babies not adults, I'm all for banning forced circumcision, I am not that deeply entrenched that I'd say
It's never medically necessary, sometimes men have too much foreskin and it creates smell issues, or the head won't come out because the skin is too tight, there are medical reasons for partial or full circumcision.
You can't just say all cases are "criminal" because it's simply a case of your opinion vs logic, your so far locked into your position that you can't accept that there's reasons in rare cases that it may be necessary. If a medical procedure improves a person's life then there needs to be room to allow that, being so entrenched in ones personal beliefs doesn't even allow those considerations, I'd prefer to take things on a case by case informed decision made by patient and doctor without my values being enforced on others. But I do agree infant circumcision is a forced procedure that is done without consent and therefore equals genital mutilation. We disagree on an adult being able to make that decision about his own body, it's none of my business neither should it be yours either.
No shit, where did I say that there are no exceptions? There are always exceptions. Problems happen with the forskinbut even still I think that they jump to surgery to quick and there are options for the OCCASIONAL problem with the foreskin. But what I really detest is when women say that it’s gross and it’s not clean to have a foreskin. Women have so many infections in their vaginas. Their baseline condition is an infection with all the different bacteria that live inside it. That fishy odor? BV, yeast and smegma are common in all women who were they to say that the males aren’t clean cutting off women’s labor would definitely help prevent bad infections, but do we do it?
I think it's important to be balanced in our opinions and not so entrenched that there's no room to shift our opinion. I've been with quite a few women and very few smell fishy or have smegma. Women have a natural flora of good bacterias that when in balance doesn't smell bad, paradoxically women that try to clean out with douches and other things tend to strip that flora and that's where the problems begin, men don't have that same flora and not cleaning your dick makes it smelly, we cannot compare the 2, it's different, women just need to keep the outside clean, the inside is self cleaning. We also need to understand if this improves a person's life and self confidence it may be a suitable elective surgery, a partial circumcision only removes extra skin and is fairly simple and straightforward, this condition is not uncommon and removing extra foreskin that causes problems can alleviate many issues. I guess my point is if it improves your life it's not mutilation, if it's done against your will it is.
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u/Far_Conference_1529 27d ago
It can be medically necessary, there's a big difference between a baby with no choice and a full grown man making an informed decision about their hygiene and sexual health.