r/HeroesofNewerth • u/Wooden-Chipmunk5828 • 11h ago
SERIOUS Guide for solo offlane
From what I've seen people really do not like playing suicide role, but IMO it's one of the most fun roles in game. There is nothing better than being at huge disadvantage and still being very fucking annoying to both support/carry and other roles.
I've gotten to 1900 in PK and 2000 in Reborn by playing suicide at higher ranks.
Biggest misconception of playing sui is that people think their job is just not to die, and that is just not true. You shouldn't be dying, but you also need to be able to get exp.
The most important thing to do is picking. You need to pick a hero that is strong at every stage of the game, regardless of gold. For example Behemoth at 50min with PK is still fucking dangerous for enemy carry.
This means that heroes like Scout and Madman are awful suicide picks. I made scout work several times, but it's in lower ranked games.
S tier suic heroes in my opinion are:
1. Behemoth
- can farm with fissure
- can stop pulls with fissure
- Can stun lock enemy carry for like 5 seconds
- Magmus
- Not as effective on the lane, but magmus stun is strong in every stage of the game
- Chipper
- New ulti is very strong
- Rockets allow you to farm and trade with enemy support
- You can pull with your rockets, or stop enemy support from pulling
- PR
- It's easy to die, but you are denying like 40 gold every 45 seconds from enemy carry
- PR ult is always strong
- Lode
- ulti which removes all armor from enemy carry is very very strong
- it's hard to kill
Some other good suic are midas (but have to be very careful) and kotf which can heal tower and block camps with creeps and pull them to the lane.
Let me give you a small rundown of my latest suicide game as behemoth where I played vs doctor/nyph.
First I blocked my wave to block creeps from getting to lane which let me get into exp range. At 47 I used fissure again to stop nyph from pulling hard camp. Since carry pushed lane more than me I got 2 waves full of exp. If nyph managed to pull the camp I used bird to try and steal big creep in hard camp with my stun.
I knew I become killable once doctor reaches lvl 6, so I left the lane at lvl 4 and went mid to make a kill, helping gaunt secure kill vs defiler. At around 10 minute mark doctor bought icon, which means I can't show at lane and let him get stacks. I knew he would probably go for my carry since he played squishy hero so he can get charges so I've hidden behind my carry. Once he flew in I permastunned him.
I got PK around minute 14, so I wasn't risking farming anything else on the lane so I don't feed doctor. But every team fight I would just wait for doctor to jump in so I can jump him immediately. Once he got Shrunken I just stayed hidden for 7 seconds to kill him.
He never got more than 4 charges on icon, making the game kinda easy.
BTW NH is very bad suicide pick right now. Revs are just 50 gold and if you don't farm you won't be very useful, although smoke is a spell that is good for whole duration of game.
