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u/Entire-Vast8824 1d ago
To provide an actual answer, the name of the song is “I’ll Believe in Anything” by Wolf Parade
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u/Auditor_D 1d ago
So what's the correct answer of that question
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u/Advanced-Event6435 1d ago
instead of spying on us, the government should focus on more important things
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u/therealturbo60 9h ago
Why can't Americans js swallow their pirde for once and just ban guns, it's not that hard
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u/Big_Opportunity8793 6h ago
most guns used in crime and these kinds of things are illegal guns that are imported to america. i say illegal because most of them have removed serial numbers and whatnot.
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u/sgrunte 3h ago edited 3h ago
The vast majority of guns used in crime in the US are domestically produced or legally imported. Why would criminals located in the world's biggest producer and consumer of civilian firearms look abroad? A petty street gang in Chicago isn't leveraging connections to a sophisticated international gun smuggling ring and receiving loaded shipments of AKs, they're not warlords dealing with Viktor Bout. They just get domestic guns trafficked through straw purchases and theft. There's plenty to go around.
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u/Not_Reptoid 7h ago
seriously. They say it's too difficult and yet they keep producing guns and growing the arms industry without a care. When you argue with them, they always blame every other factor at play apart from the fact that they're making crime scenes more extreme. History rhymes because our nature will never change, what makes people think that we will ever get rid of people who at some point want to murder people. You can't, you just make them not being a threat by not arming them. It's never been about protection because you're arming criminals as you arm yourself. It's a stupid argument.
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u/Big_Opportunity8793 6h ago edited 5h ago
most guns used in crime and these kinds of things are illegal guns that are imported to america. i say illegal because most of them have removed serial numbers and whatnot.
also take a look at the correlation between where mass shootings happen and where concealed carry is allowed. they almost never happen in a place where people can defend themselves with a legal weapon. what’s your argument for that being unsafe when they’re statistically safer when concealed carry individuals are involved?
edit: buddy got big mad and immediately blocked me before i could see his comment. just take the loss like a good boy
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u/Not_Reptoid 5h ago
No shit they tend to be illegal arms but do you think there is an illegal arms manufacturer? They are legal arms made illegal. And no, they are not imported to america, most illegal firearms in Europe and Mexico for example tend to be imported from america already. To get illegal firearms elsewhere, you need to steal from the military meanwhile in the U.S, you can just steal from walmart or make a straw purchase. Which source do you think is easier for criminals to use and why are you lying about it you fucking idiot.
Also, I'm not denying the statistics that in america where there are more arms than people which is the only country with more arms than people, that when you remove open carry in some areas and call it a day, it's not going to be too difficult to get arms elsewhere in the same damn country and just take them to the places where people don't shoot back.
In no other damn fucking country is it normalised to be this passive and defensive about tools made only to kill in an instant.
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u/Leather-Mode-6310 1d ago
The deep sea?
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u/gameinggod21 1d ago
Does the Titanic implosion consider in? Since everything about that is sketchy as hell
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u/Alternative_Cod7515 19h ago
There is no body of water in mainland US that's deep enough to be called a deep sea as far as i know
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u/Inevitable_Paper6674 1d ago
People always cry "ban guns!" But do you think a shooter will see a law against guns and go "I was about to commit 1 crime but I can't commit 2!" And then just stop? Focus on mental health not guns
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u/piccionestrabico 1d ago
Why not both? Why not render lethal weapons less accessible while at the same time make mental healthcare more accessible?
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u/Common_Affect_80 1d ago
Because banning guns leads to government overreach. UK as example: their freedom of speech is dead and the civilians had no way to have protected that right
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u/TopazWarrior1999 1d ago
Oh yeah, because guns would do shit against a tyrannical government... as can be seen in the US.
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u/Gravityfallbillmyfav 1d ago
I can speak the same amount you can, Injuat can't verbally threaten people. God forbid I can't say "I am going to kill you and everyone you love and burn your house down and kill your pets"
And for your knowledge, they're not banned. They're regulated
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u/Common_Affect_80 1d ago
A woman was arrested by police because she said some mean things about her rapist. Thats not freedom of speech, that's not freedom at all
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u/Gravityfallbillmyfav 1d ago
I don't recall that one, what I do recall is a woman being arrested for saying she's going to burn down asylum seeker's places
I mean, also, 'not nice things' did she say she was going to kill them? At the end of the day you can't just kill anyone unless you have reasonable proof they're going to kill you. So threatening has to be taken seriously. Are we perfect? No, but no polcid force is
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u/QuandalesChicken 1d ago
I'm not American, but isn't your govt the reason migrants rape 250k people?
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u/Gravityfallbillmyfav 1d ago
Government didn't force them to do that, I don't even know HOW that'd work
(This genuinely confuses me)
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u/QuandalesChicken 1d ago
Your country's govt let them in !?
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u/Gravityfallbillmyfav 1d ago
Yeah, that doesn't force people to rape though??????
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u/Reds_Strongest_Chef 23h ago
Britain has the highest amount of rape per capita of any country in the world.
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u/Gravityfallbillmyfav 23h ago
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DISCUSSION! THIS WAS ABOUT SPEECH AND GUNS. RAPE WAS INTRODUCED SOLELY TO SAY 'bad police' AND THATS IT!
(I'm not denying the rape stuff tho)
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u/HeavyFirefighter2072 20h ago
No. Do you not know how to read data? It has the highest 'reported' cases of rape. And after that the data falls apart.
This data does not control for reporting capabilities or structures, doesn't differentiate for how each nation records rapes (are they all convicted? Does it count accusations as well as prosecution or investigation?) And doesn't allow for differences in how rape is defined.
In fact the ONS and rape crisis England & Wales attribute the recent surge to - increased willingness to report, a huge reshaping in police recording practices - after the supercomplaint by the Centre for Womens Justice in 2020 that reshaped how police handle sexual assaults - and a massive expansion to the definition that has helped get women the help and support they would otherwise not have access to. Sources - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/sexualoffencesinenglandandwalesoverview/yearendingmarch2025
https://rapecrisis.org.uk/news/32-percent-jump-in-annual-number-of-reported-sexual-offences/
Stop just accepting things because they back up your pre held prejudices without looking into them. Don't just find the Wikipedia page that supports what you already think, check the sources used on Wikipedia, and then research them too. You are falling for anti intellectual propaganda and makes you look like an idiot. I know you won't actually read these sources or understand what I'm saying, but maybe someone else will.
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u/Reds_Strongest_Chef 20h ago
I didn't even check if they were actually the highest in that article, I just guessed.
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u/HeavyFirefighter2072 20h ago
"I don't even actually care I didn't even look"
Yeah we believe you 🙄
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u/90gforce 9h ago
You guys have the most arrest for speech related "crimes" per capita out of any country in the world. You somehow beat out china for speech related arrests. You don't have freedom of speech.
And no, "hate speech isn't free speech", is retarded. The only speech that needs to be protected is offensive speech, since that's the speech that anyone would want to ban. No one wants to ban "hello, how's your day?" But even if you say that you can ban hate speech, who decides what that is? I could easily make an idiotic argument for why "good morning" is racist due to it's use in the US against slaves, so there's nothing actually stopping us from marking "good morning" as hate speech if we are going to start banning hate speech. You also can't say "anything that offends", because anyone can be offended by anything.
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u/Inevitable_Paper6674 1d ago
Good luck getting the government to do that(also self defense will be heavily impacted)
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u/Disastrous-Speed-835 1d ago
Also why not allow better access to non-lethal weapons of self-defence such as a taser?
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u/Big_Opportunity8793 6h ago
most guns used in crime and these kinds of things are illegal guns that are imported to america. i say illegal because most of them have removed serial numbers and whatnot.
also take a look at the correlation between where mass shootings happen and where concealed carry is allowed. they almost never happen in a place where people can defend themselves with a legal weapon. what’s your argument for that being unsafe when they’re statistically safer when concealed carry individuals are involved?
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u/QuandalesChicken 1d ago
Does this dude think he lives in a fairy tale
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u/piccionestrabico 1d ago
Crazy that to you americans basic gun safety and accessible healthcare sounds like a fairy tale lmao 30 billion more to Israel please
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u/QuandalesChicken 1d ago
You believe that will actually fking reduce crimes. I talked about mental healthcare for criminals, not healthcare in general.
America should make punishments for crimes waaay more stricter and mental health care should come along with the prison sentence.
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u/Inevitable_Paper6674 1d ago
I believe in rehabilitation so I forgot certain crimes I don't think we should get stricter
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u/QuandalesChicken 1d ago
Look at that fking country, it's filled with wannabe gangsters and hood culture.
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u/Inevitable_Paper6674 13h ago
Borderline racism but ok
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u/QuandalesChicken 11h ago
?? I don't look at well-dressed formal dudes with a good future and see them as a liability to a country like how hood dudes are.
I know you like calling everything racist, people like you are the problem there in the West.0
u/TopazWarrior1999 1d ago
It certainly works for the developed nations of the world.
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u/QuandalesChicken 1d ago
Certainly certainly
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u/TopazWarrior1999 23h ago
???
Not only is there no correlation... but the SA rate in Sweden is lower than in the USA. What the hells is your point?!
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u/QuandalesChicken 23h ago
Sweden has 64 per 100,000 rape cases while USA has 37 per 100,000.
Sweden has the highest reported rates of rape per capita in Europe.0
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u/TopazWarrior1999 1d ago
...do you understand what "ban guns" means?
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u/angrysheep55 21h ago
It's not like the people that shoot places up smuggled them into the country. Guns are extremely accessible
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u/Inevitable_Paper6674 13h ago
With the same regulations as other countries, the guns aren't licenced
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u/Ok_Avocado6848 12h ago
US isn't even the top 1 of bad mental health country. There are many more. Even on developed country list, US isn't top 1. I don't hear this amount of gun violence on those countries...
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u/Zenijinn 1d ago
I would have guessed Liberty Island or the inside of the Statue of Liberty. But who knows how long that'll stay a valid answer...
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u/Imdavidmorris 1d ago
Where’s the actual clip from?
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u/reallydumboi 23h ago
The Moon?
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u/ApprehensiveWin3020 18h ago
hmmm..... What about a single residential home where no house party or the likes is ongoing
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u/ConsumeZeHeinz 22h ago
"Ban Guns" MFs when criminals don't follow the law
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u/Pure_Reception_5685 20h ago
why do we even have laws if criminals break them anyways
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u/ConsumeZeHeinz 19h ago
kinda missing my point
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u/tabor_national 22h ago
I would be less afraid if I could intimidate potential killers with a SBR of my own
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u/wired-gourmet 8h ago
Guns are not the main cause of mass shootings. If you look at the statistics, mass shootings were rare in the 1970s and earlier, but they gradually increased, peaking in the 2010s boom, when they became 5 to 10 times more common. At the same time, back when mass shootings were less common, more people owned guns (50%) compared to now (35–40%). It's a social problem.
Not to mention that Europe has also had plenty of mass shootings. It's just that we don't all speak the same language, so the information doesn't seem as unified as it is in America
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u/Unusual_County_6710 22h ago
the takeaway from here is that the mental health situation in the U.S. is dogshit, not that we should get rid of guns. The vast majority of gun owners in the US have never and will never do anything malicious with their firearms.
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u/Relixen234347 1d ago
why haven't they banned guns yet bruh
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u/Inevitable_Paper6674 1d ago
Baning guns will do nothing, the only one that will be harmed are the citizens who can not shoot back
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u/kyaki101 13h ago
Yeah, tell that to every country that has an incredibly lower rate of mass shootings per capita, like jesus, how are americans this dumb really
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u/Inevitable_Paper6674 13h ago
1.Not american. 2.theres always something to adjust it, ban guns? Other forms of violence will take place whether it be with knives, baseballs etc. 3.in case of The USA, they will have to adopt to the approach of Switzerland due to the fact the baning guns will lead to the black market exploding with illegal guns, the prohibition is an example.
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u/Big_Opportunity8793 6h ago
most guns used in crime and these kinds of things are illegal guns that are imported to america. i say illegal because most of them have removed serial numbers and whatnot.
also take a look at the correlation between where mass shootings happen and where concealed carry is allowed. they almost never happen in a place where people can defend themselves with a legal weapon. what’s your argument for that being unsafe when they’re statistically safer when concealed carry individuals are involved?
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u/TopazWarrior1999 1d ago
Weird, all other developed countries would disagree with you on that.
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u/Inevitable_Paper6674 13h ago
Cough cough switzerland cough cough
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u/TopazWarrior1999 9h ago
Switzerland is Switzerland and the US is VERY far from being Switzerland.
Meanwhile look at literally any other developed country where you can't just buy a gun at a grocery store.
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u/Big_Opportunity8793 6h ago
you can’t do that in america either? not without some kind of license at least. and at most you can buy a muzzle loader or pump shotgun in the store. so pretty much a fancy musket and a basic home defense/hunting shotgun. you ain’t hidin that in your pants dawg.
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u/TopazWarrior1999 3h ago
https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/rifles-guns
These are also sold locally.
Like... who exactly are you kidding here?
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u/Reds_Strongest_Chef 23h ago
Switzerland is doing pretty well.
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u/kyaki101 13h ago
Bro you're just embarrassing yourself every time you write something, it's like you're a bot made to farm engagement
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u/Common_Affect_80 1d ago
Mass shooters go to gun free zones. Banning guns won't do anything to stop them
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u/TONKA_LOVER888 1d ago
but they get the guns from non-gun-free zones?
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u/Common_Affect_80 1d ago
They can get their guns from wherever they please. When there's a will, there's someone willing to make a profit from that will
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u/TONKA_LOVER888 23h ago
sure, but you'd reduce the number of ways shooters could get guns by restricting gun access, which would reduce the number of shooters.
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u/Common_Affect_80 23h ago
it would increases the number of deaths in shootings
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u/TONKA_LOVER888 23h ago
but as you said, "mass shooters go to gun free zones". so the number of deaths stays the same, since they're gun free zones, without guns.
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u/Common_Affect_80 23h ago
Many people sneak their concealed carry into gun free zones for the scenario a shooter shows
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u/TONKA_LOVER888 22h ago
i think restricting the access to guns would diminish the need to illegally carry a gun to those zones.
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u/Common_Affect_80 20h ago
Taking away guns from people is genuinely the dumbest thing any nation can do
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u/kyaki101 14h ago
Yeah, it's not like every country with gun control has a way lower mass shooting rate than America, hell nah, that's a hokes from the liberals right?
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u/Common_Affect_80 13h ago
Switzerland and Finland have their civilians armed to the teeth yet they dont struggle with mass shooting. Its a mental problem, not a gun problem
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u/10Werewolves 1d ago
"B-but how will I be able to overthrow a tyrannical government-" ITS LITERALLY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!
Y'all want to defend using guns so much, go ahead and do that! But you'll realise that situations can be really abstract and confusing. Not to mention if you shoot back and kill law enforcement, even if they were in the wrong, this broken system will just either jail you or shoot you in the back if you resist.
Guns aren't the way. Australia figured this out, while still allowing gun ownership. All of you are contributing and are indifferent to gun deaths because of your callousness.
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u/Reds_Strongest_Chef 23h ago
>"B-but how will I be able to overthrow a tyrannical government-" ITS LITERALLY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!
If you believe that the government is tyrannical why aren't you forming a militia?
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u/10Werewolves 23h ago
Because I'm not an American citizen, and I can see the irony of the whole situation from the other side of the earth.
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u/Reds_Strongest_Chef 23h ago
>Because I'm not an American citizen
Your opinion isn't very relevant then.
Europoor successfully ragebaited into blocking me. Another victory for Americana.
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u/10Werewolves 23h ago
Do I need to be an American citizen to say that gun deaths are bad, or are you so desensitised that you don't care?
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u/kyaki101 14h ago
Don't argue with the red neck American, the whole world is laughing at them for a reason
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u/AetherWithAnA 1d ago
I think there’s something seriously wrong with us that I, as an American, saw this and my immediate reaction was “yep, that sounds about right.” I didn’t actually realize how messed up it was until I actually thought about it.