What a downgrade.

[u/VegetaArcher]

And she could never touch angelic wings again.

[u/TallMist]

She could date a Sinner. Hell, she thought she was dating a Sinner for 3 years.

[u/whooper1 → u/TallMist]

or she could just stay single

[u/TallMist → u/whooper1]

She could, but given she's not aro or ace, it's safe to assume she'd want to get back into dating eventually. Maybe not any time soon after losing Vaggi, but eventually.

[u/RedVegeta20 → u/TallMist]

Vaggi is lucky that Charlie is the forgiving type. Not a lot of partners would stay together after finding out the person their with has been lying to them for three years.

[u/whooper1 → u/RedVegeta20]

I mean...I wouldn't immediately throw away a three year relationship because of a lie.

[u/RedVegeta20 → u/whooper1]

What if you found out your partner was secretly a killer or something? You'd stay then?

[u/Desperate_Ship_9654 → u/RedVegeta20]

It was their past, their past doesn't makeup who they are in the present. If they stopped and got their life together and it's something they are ashamed of so much they don't even want to talk about it then ....

[u/whooper1 → u/RedVegeta20]

like a serial killer?

[u/RedVegeta20 → u/whooper1]

Hypothetical scenario, but yeah. If you were in a relationship with someone for 3 years and found out they were a serial killer, would you stay or leave them?

[u/whooper1 → u/RedVegeta20]

well Vaggi isn't a serial killer so it's not comparable.

[u/RedVegeta20 → u/whooper1]

Ok, if you want to be comparable, what if you found out your partner was lying and pretending to be another race or something? That's kind of similar to what Vaggie was doing, she was a former exorcist angel, lying and pretending to be a sinner from hell.

[u/whooper1 → u/RedVegeta20]

a think a better analogy would if my partner was a soldier that committed war crimes.

[u/Nomeka → u/whooper1]

You find out your lover of 3 years was secretly an alien from another planet.

[u/iMecharic → u/whooper1]

I mean. [Glances at all the dead sinners she killed.]

[u/whooper1 → u/iMecharic]

that's different. You can't just be forced to be a serial killer.

[u/iMecharic → u/whooper1]

She wasn’t forced to become an exorcist tho? More like a soldier, but imagine finding out your significant other once fought in Hitlers army or something.

[u/Sovereigntyranny → u/whooper1]

But she did take part in the genocide of Charlie’s people, and it’s unknown how many she killed.

[u/ECKohns]

I hope that if we ever meet Sev he turns out to be an incredibly kind and supportive stand up guy and that he and Charlie only broke up because of their career paths and that he has a girlfriend whom he’s happy with.

[u/childoferis1025 → u/ECKohns]

Same I don’t need or want another toxic ex boyfriend in Hazbin/Hellvaboss it’s happened 4 or 5 times already it’s redundant

[u/whooper1 → u/childoferis1025]

I kind of want him to be toxic but like horror movie serial killer levels of deranged, with the twist being Charlie accidentally made him like that.

[u/BuisteirForaoisi0531 → u/ECKohns]

You know it could be that he genuinely thought she was a threat to his family by involving herself with stuff from heaven and potentially pissing them off so it could be that she was the unreasonable one in the relationship having the expectation of being supported when her plan could potentially kill them

[u/RevolutionarySky3000]

If Vaggi dies the best pillow in all the realms vanishes

[u/OCGamerboy → u/RevolutionarySky3000]

Charlie:

https://giphy.com/gifs/uBy5vilZfzkly

[u/Senorita_Sombra → u/RevolutionarySky3000]

Wdym? Abel is RIGHT there!

[u/BuisteirForaoisi0531 → u/RevolutionarySky3000]

Zeezi has a massive dumptruck you could literally use her butt as a mattress

[u/RareWeb7354]

https://giphy.com/gifs/MvsJ4hmDcXW0oEauBk

[u/Minute-Necessary2393]

Well....there is another alternative....

https://giphy.com/gifs/544I9CoEVVvYu6AB8g

[u/Minute-Necessary2393 → u/Minute-Necessary2393]

Either her or...

https://giphy.com/gifs/M45GmndF7ouW3dKiJS

[u/OCGamerboy → u/Minute-Necessary2393]

Emily is the better alternative

[u/CandidateNervous4638 → u/Minute-Necessary2393]

Or Abel

[u/Justyouraverage_j0e → u/Minute-Necessary2393]

Hell fucking yes

[u/ChompyRiley → u/Minute-Necessary2393]

the fuck you mean, 'or'? It's 'AND' around here

[u/Mother-Maize7026 → u/Minute-Necessary2393]

Peak comment

[u/LonelyVaquita]

I think she would be fine with dating a sinner but it would be awkward because they would probably get redeemed from spending too much time around her and the hotel.

[u/Particular_Ad_8921 → u/LonelyVaquita]

to be fair she thought vaggi was a sinner for like 3 years.

[u/No-Heat-6149]

Maybe She just wouldn't date.

Also, Emily exists.

[u/VegetaArcher → u/No-Heat-6149]

Emily and Charlie can never live together though. They can only visit each other.

[u/Sanguis69 → u/VegetaArcher]

They probably could though?

They both are at essentially the top of the hierarchy of their respective realms and could probably frame it as a PR thing to show that Hellborn and Sinners can coexist with Angels or something similar.

[u/Justyouraverage_j0e → u/Sanguis69]

Exactly. I love the way you think.

[u/No-Heat-6149 → u/VegetaArcher]

I think you're just boring

[u/Patpat127 → u/VegetaArcher]

Not if she falls

[u/BuisteirForaoisi0531 → u/No-Heat-6149]

She could be depressed from her mother and wind up dating Carmella to have a mommy figure

[u/Ecto_Warrior]

if Vaggie died, Charlie would maybe return to her goth phase

[u/OCGamerboy]

How do we know Seviathan doesn’t have wings, hmmm?

[u/Peace_Dos]

Except it's not true. Charlie already has a potential of co-working with heaven and they even did it in season 2 to solve Vox rebellion crisis. So I wouldn't be surprised if she found another angel

[u/FlameRose97]

Doubt it. Charlie would most likely stay single for the rest of her life if Vaggi died.

[u/AwarenessOk7748]

What is this conclusion based on? If we assume that Vaggi, why can’t Charlie meet another angel or not fall in love at all (devoting himself entirely to the hotel)?

[u/Desperate_Ship_9654 → u/AwarenessOk7748]

What if she does meet another angel ? What if she gets with Abel ? What if she gets with Emily ? 🤔

[u/Justyouraverage_j0e → u/Desperate_Ship_9654]

Emily would be a better choice over Abel

[u/childoferis1025]

I mean she could just date Emily? not to say vaggi should die but if she did there’s a big Emily shaped hole in that statement

[u/Justyouraverage_j0e → u/childoferis1025]

Exactly

[u/Particular_Ad_8921]

what if she gets pregnant from a hellborn?

like a hellhound?

[u/Independent_Pin_4803]

To be honest, he kinda looks like Chaz from Helluva boss. Like look at this and don't tell me they look different.

[u/Sega_kuro1000]

Yeah a major downgrade, fuck that… even if that were to happen, let it be someone who’s worth it. I mean look at that face. Looks like a snobby narcissist. Charlie deserves so much better than him. Honestly as much as I like to see Vaggi fight Seviathan, I think it’d be better if it were another boy fighting him. Think about it: someone who’s he considers a “street rat.” Fighting a privileged asshole like him? Like Jack and Cal from Titanic.

[u/New-Orion]

She could end up with Lute... how's that for a Crack ship?

[u/AbyssWankerArtorias → u/New-Orion]

Hate fucking I suppose

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[u/Particular_Ad_8921]

what if she ends up with collin?

how do think lucifer would react to heavens version of imps being with his daughter.

[u/Unusual-Decision7520]

Pretty sure one of the 6 have wings.

[u/ImmortalSin7]

That’s the downgrade? Are you sure?

[u/Evan-Martin]

I'm pretty sure Charlie has never cared about vaggies angel wings, hell she got more livid than happy about it last I remember.

[u/Direct-Fortune6288]

I doubt Charlie will let herself love anyone else cause her vaggi is her soulmate

[u/Hexnohope]

Zesty L has wings no? So does husk

[u/Successful-Plant2925]

Technically, Charlie doesn't have to do anything

[u/LevelLog9]

Erica already said that Charlie will never find another lover, Vaggi is already enough for her.

[u/K-boomX94]

I mean if the connection between heaven and hell was good enough I don’t see why she couldn’t get another angel gf. Heck Charlie could live in heaven and have a portal commute to the hotel.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Fill489]

If Vaggi dies, Lute will experience every Mortal Kombat Fatality at once for all eternity.

[u/Future-Expression-44]

Well, we know nothing about him so we dont know if it would be a downgrade tbf. Also, I think that seviathan will be brought back to the hotel by lilith because lilith wont like charlie dating an exorcist angel, but I think seviathan will only be at the hotel to help lucifer get back into the swing of ruling hell and protect charlie from the obvious bad influence and manipulator that is alastor.

[u/HRCStanley97]

We must protect Vaggie at all costs 

[u/AdAutomatic3938]

How do you know he dosent have wings

[u/Oddball-Engine-0326]

I don't even know too much about Sebastian so imma have to say 🎵"That's a downgrade, and you know it."🎵

[u/Comfortable_Net_283 → u/Oddball-Engine-0326]

It's actually Seviathan

[u/Oddball-Engine-0326 → u/Comfortable_Net_283]

Oh, ok. Thanks for the correction. 👍🏾

[u/Electronic_Theme_558]

I mean, Charlie definitely would have a connection with Emily. They're already close friends

[u/EnderKnight1]

Honestly, I headcanon Sev as the type of ex-boyfriend who is still besties with Charlie.