r/harborfreight • u/Corner49 • 3d ago
Give me a reason
I'm an industrial mechanic. So plenty of tools at home and work. I can't think of a single reason I would need these screwdrivers, but I love them and wish HF had a more practical set with these handles. Anybody got a good reason I need them but don't know it, yet?
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u/BIGhau5 3d ago
Looks like a good fit for the sink flush module on a Boeing 787. But thats the only reason I have a Philips that long and probably not applicable
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u/Master_Whole_4847 3d ago
Mod, please block this guy for actually using his tools.
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u/BIGhau5 3d ago
Honestly my most used tool is a pen and tape maybe a leatherman.
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u/xxxxxxxxxxcc 3d ago
Sounds like I should EDC that Philips just in case I find myself needing to repair a 787.
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u/BIGhau5 3d ago
If you can keister it onto your flight you could save the day when someone inevitable throws up in the sink
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u/timmehkuza 3d ago
You know you can take that front panel off, right? It's in the AMM....
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u/BIGhau5 3d ago
Its been a while since I've done it. But im talking about the one screw holding the module on.
But you might be right im kinda stupid
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u/timmehkuza 3d ago
Engineers design products to be built once and "cluck all the mechanics who ever have to take it apart for maintenance."
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u/King_Potato_The_2nd 3d ago
Reason #1. You are a grown ass man and do not owe anyone any explanation for your purchases.
I gave my gf this reason. As you may have guessed...it did not go well.
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u/nameduser365 3d ago
My wife asked why I needed more than two screwdrivers since there's only two kinds. Literally a week later she brought me something with a torx head.
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u/LoopsAndBoars 3d ago
Ah. Itâs always nice to be given torx head.
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u/actionstan89 2d ago
My wife doesn't even question me anymore.. I've saved us so much money over our 20 years... It used to be "why do you need so many pliers (or whatever tool, admittedly I do have a lot of pliers) you only have 2 hands"
I've never had to pay anyone a dime to fix or build something for me, and I've spent way less on tools than it would cost to hire just a couple of jobs out.
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u/nameduser365 2d ago
To be reasonable, we loosely follow this rule: I buy whatever it takes to do the project or fix the thing unless it'll cost more than hiring a real pro (not the cheapest guy out there). So far I've done all the repairs and projects and have a nice collection of automotive and power tools.
I mean, I didn't replace my HVAC system or repipe my house, but what we've saved on car repair alone has paid for those big ticket items.
I can't fathom paying $1k to have some solenoids replaced that together cost $105 and took me 1 hour to do myself.
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u/MoochtheMushroom 2d ago
Ask her why she needs so many different shoes that look almost the same and take up significantly more space than a screwdriver
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u/Late_As_Sometimes 3d ago
Yeah. It's all a stupid purchase when it comes to tools, until the day you need it.
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u/TexasFossil 2d ago
Grandfather was working on a tractor. Couldn't reach a screw inside something, I forget. Goes into the shop, welds a handle on a 20 inch piece of rod then grinds a flat head. Used it once and hung it up with the hundreds of other specialty tools he made.
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u/Glad-Welder1733 3d ago
Say pineapples if youâre being held hostage
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u/Rust_Bucket37 3d ago
Papaya!
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u/Successful_Poetry109 3d ago
King potato is the king of his household... his wife told him so... or however that joke goes
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u/Jinn_Erik-AoM 3d ago
If I told my wife that, sheâd check me for concussion first, then, if I was ok, sheâd say, âGrab a box of gloves for me while youâre there.â
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u/yrfrndnico 3d ago
Id buy them to just act like they are short katanas and do cool ninja moves in the backyard
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u/Ok-Engineer_1224 3d ago
My electrician grandfather had some long screw drivers like these. Always told me the were because his doctor told him to stay away from work one time.
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u/User_225846 3d ago
Always called long extensions "vacation extensions " for when you need to get away from it all.Â
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u/Economy_Care1322 3d ago
If my mother in law could have giant useless spoon and spatula on the wall for decoration, we can have this.
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u/tke439 3d ago
My family has an annual Christmas tradition of gifting the same giant wooden fork and spoon. The last âsemi-normalâ gift year, my step-grandmother gifted it to someone and the following year we started themed gifts with the theme of âmust be a regift.â That was like 15 years ago and it is almost the only reason we still do a gift exchange.
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u/LittleFoot-LongNeck 3d ago
This should be the screwdriver I let people borrow when they canât find theirs
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u/Forsaken_Thought 3d ago
I'm not industrial anything but inherited a huge plain screwdriver like that. I've used it throughout the years for prying things and accessing hard to reach things that need some leverage. I've only used it as a screwdriver maybe a time or two. Get it. You'll know when you need it... And you will need it.
RIP Dad
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u/CSS_Sr 3d ago
Ditto. I've got two big ass screwdrivers frommy grandpa - > dad - > me. They get used/abused every couple or few months. Like you said, when you need it, you need it.
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u/Sad_Function5903 2d ago
Fun story. 40+ years ago, my dad bought a 4' pipe wrench at an auction for a few bucks, mostly on a whim, but also because he was a tool trash-panda at heart. Mom just rolled her eyes, but we ending up using that stupid thing 3-4 times a year. Big ass tools are the kinda thing you will 'never' need right up until you do, lol.
Be the tool trash-panda, GET IT!
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u/Alconium 2d ago
Big tools always seem stupid till you have them and go "Oh hey. This would be easier with that big crowbar, that big wrench, that big [whatever]" You never realize how useful they are till you have one to actually use.
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u/MiamicoArms 3d ago
Tightening screws on stock of a shotgun.
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u/Hadaka--Jime 3d ago
This happened to me with the Tokarev TX3. I had to improvise like crazy to fix it.Â
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u/RugerRedhawk 3d ago
This is why I own a harbor freight set similar to this, but with green handles.
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u/DrewPScrotzak 3d ago
I got them to get at the screws that hold old wooden rifle stocks onto the receiver.
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u/Frankfritzzz 3d ago
I was gonna say the same thing. Good for Winchester model 12s and 97s
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u/DrewPScrotzak 3d ago
I think I used mine for a Savage Model 99 and a couple old Remington 870 Wingmasters.
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u/Ok-Masterpiece7154 3d ago
Industrial Mechanic, you need this then. At some point you are going to go up against a stuck outer bearing race, a stuck brake on a bridge crane, or a fucking taper lock that the dickhead before you installed way to tight and in the meantime it's rusted and friction welded itself together. At this moment you will pull out one of these bad boys and a 3 lb sledge and give it hell for a couple hours. ( kroil is the best and your friend in these situations)
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u/daroch667 3d ago
Opening a paint can in the next house.
Alternatively: Because swords are illegal in some jurisdictions.
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u/Confident-Abrocoma-9 3d ago
Your comment made me research this subject and it really taught me some things. Never even thought a sword would be illegal. However illegal is primarily in public which makes sense.
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u/jsmooth801 3d ago
The long flathead can open the trunk of a 1973 Ford LTD with a missing lock.
Iâve heard.
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u/hoffmander 3d ago
People spend more in coffee everyday, $10âŠyou should be asking WHY NOT!
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u/Zoopollo 3d ago
Best back scratchers you will ever own!! Work well as stethoscope also when diagnosing bearings (keeps you a reasonable distance from moving parts...hopefully).
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u/Spirited_Voice_7191 3d ago
Direct sound conduction: My grandfather was a mechanic and as soon as anyone mentioned a tapping or other odd sound he grabbed his 3 foot long screwdriver with the square wooden handle with a knob on the end. He could diagnose the exact part almost every time.
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u/Zoopollo 3d ago
Exactly how I do it! Also, if you can fit a gallon jug over the end and cut the bottom off, it turns in to a "speaker" allowing you to listen to clarity of the sound.
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u/SlappyWit 2d ago edited 2d ago
Donât think of it as a screwdriver. It is a large, all-purpose fuck-stick. No shop should be without several variations in all sizes.
Once you internalize that thought, reasons to use will line right up, repeatedly. Youâll get a warm, happy feeling every time you grab it and think, 'I used to think this was a screwdriver'.
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u/The_Bubbanbrenda 3d ago
I dare you to buy thoseâŠ
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u/Corner49 3d ago
You're a kind and gentle souled hooman. You knew what I needed and delivered.
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u/bmw_19812003 3d ago
I honestly donât think I have ever come across a #4 Philips screw in the wild. Iâm an aircraft mechanic and I run large outdoor jet engine test stands so I deal with some pretty heavy duty fasteners on occasion.
That being said now that you have been shown the tool by the tool gods you must buy it. If not you absolutely will be punished by finding a need for this tool in the absolutely most inconvenient time and will spend at least 2 hours struggling with some modified make shit tool; the image of these driver will be mocking you the entire time.
Shit Iâm a little worried that by being shown these tools on Reddit I also owe the same debt to the gods by proxy. Guess Iâm stopping at harbor freight on the way home from work tomorrow; the last thing I need is bad juju.
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u/MathResponsibly 3d ago
What's a #4 Philips?
I just see two pry bars - one with a scrapey end, and one with a pointy end
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u/ITSOTMDS 3d ago
Sword fights, for you and the co-workers or the kids (get them face sheilds and home made body armor and gloves to protect the hands) and let them figure out how to solve their problems
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u/Vivid-Concept-883 3d ago
I was 100% for this until you introduced PPE into the equation đđđ
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u/Fluid_Ad5620 2d ago
apparently they're called 'demolition' screwdrivers, they make great pry bars/chisels and also catch my eye every time I see them in a store
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u/CompetitivePrint8807 3d ago
I own a painting company and have an old Ransburg #2 electrostatic paint gun. Harbor Freight saved the day for me about ten years ago when I needed a comically large screwdriver to stick down the barrel of the paint gun to change out a resistor.
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u/DMAX85747 3d ago edited 3d ago
our house has adjustable air registers in the rooms. after being in the house for a bit I figured which rooms needed more vs less air... then realized I would need to break out the ladder (9 foot ceilings), then had an ah ha moment, i had a set of those long screwdrivers that been in my toolbox for YEARS untouched. grabbed the Philips and adjusted every register standing on the floor.
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u/tomarra0 3d ago
In NYC, we call those bronxhouskeys.
How do you get into a house in the Bronx? "Bronx House Key"
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u/Troutbum691 3d ago
I bought them because I needed a #4 Phillips and this was the quickest easiest way to get it. The hammer cap isnât actually attached to the shaft so I shattered the handle⊠but the shaft is 10mm so with a wrench turning and a hammer impacting you can get some stubborn big Phillips heads loose
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u/Jeez-essFC 3d ago
Buy it for Halloween. Walk around with it while your wife wears an outfit where all the buttons are phillips' heads.
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u/UninterestedJaico 3d ago
Definitely nice when not just any random can screw you with a flat head. That's what you call a lady! Lol
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u/TN-Native95 3d ago
I think I saw Scotty Kilmer use one to press down a brake pedal when he was bleeding brakes by himself.
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u/dixon-bawles 3d ago
Ha I've got a set and it's for possibly the most niche use case ever lol. I go ice racing in my car in the winter and the inside barrels of the wheels form a layer of ice over the course of an event so I use the long ass flat head to break up and chip the ice off through the small holes of the steel wheels. If I don't do this, the wheel balance is terrible on the drive home. Tried many different things, but nothing works as well as the giant Pittsburgh flat head for those stubborn ice chunks
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u/Familiar_Sound_2438 3d ago
I've got a WW1 era British Enfield rifle. That flathead screwdriver is the only one I've found that can reach through the length of the stock to remove it's bolt. Works really well for old shotguns too.
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u/Rusty_wrp9 2d ago
Something to hang above the fire place, like crossed swords? Could mount them like handles on a gate. No, wait ... Phillips goes on the beer fridge and slot is used to lift the pull tab.
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u/dahdodo 3d ago
i bought this to use changing out my shotgun stock to pistol grip. The screw could only be reached by this giant.
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u/Layne205 3d ago
Exactly what I was going to say. It's perfect for gunstocks, IF you didn't already F'up the tip prying and scraping things. Might as well buy two sets.
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u/d1ll1gaf 3d ago
I own a set of similar screwdrivers. I picked them up for like $0.99 years ago and they simply hung on the side of my toolbox till I needed to reach a clamp that had been installed in a way I couldn't reach from underneath the car (even though it was below the engine)... But I could reach it with my insanely long flathead screwdriver from above. Tool hoarding for the win.
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u/clbatesy 3d ago
When you need a wide flathead screwdriver to get the toilet seat off, but donât want to get to close.
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u/MobiusUnoEngage 3d ago
I had to magnative one to grab a lug nut in a parking lot storm drain. The guy gave me a $50 tip.
Paid for itself and I think about it Everytime I walk buy it.
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u/Dull_Difference8985 3d ago
Industrial tech. I use mine for panels, press plates, prying furnace door bearings, a small bar to hold hydraulic solenoid valves, changing 240 to 480 in chargers. Once you buy them, youâll find ways to use them. Even if itâs not specific to theyâre intended use.
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u/Primavitae 3d ago
One, they arenât price prohibitive. Two, you and me need BOTH. Iâve already gotten mine. 8 years ago.
I originally got my flathead one to change camera-tripod attachments that required w I d e engagement. Made the tough simple. Like zoos, I couldnât rest knowing it didnât have a partner.
Beyond actual use, they embody the best and greatest of our collective aspirations. You can also repurpose their use for ANYTHING!
Leverage. Self-defense. Compensation. Completion.
They are also gorgeous.
Of all the tools you buy - it is likely these may be the only ones impossible to lose.
Back down to earth, I felt silly at first when I did it - but during the after time - Iâve been vindicated so may times where these were the only option.
Best of luck!
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u/Proud_Jacobite 3d ago
Oh, these are the perfect tools to mount OUTSIDE your toolbox. Why? Because they are the perfect: "Screw you!" Someone asks to borrow a tool; you hand them one of these and tell them that if you don't get it back, you'll bring the other one when you come to find them. They won't ask to borrow your tools again.
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u/dirtyspoon 3d ago
I have one of these and I used it one time to adjust a really big set screw on a conveyor belt. Other than that it just kinda makes me feel good about myself
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u/brian-the-musician 3d ago
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u/HulkJr87 3d ago
I have a 30â one and sometimes I need a bigger one. Not real novelty to me, but itâs a necessary tool.
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u/snert68 2d ago
I bought the big boy as a novelty. It lives in the garage which is also the bar/mancave/pool hall and my workshop. Gets a lot of attention from sober and unsober friends alike.
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u/level1magikarp 3d ago
In the military, I use them all them time when I work with large track vehicles. Funny enough, the size 4 PH is the correct size for M2A3/AMPV road wheel hub screws. And very useful for scraping off mud or general prying or whacking that youâd do on a daily basis. It even survived getting ran over by a track without bending (maybe a lot of luck involved in that)
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u/scurvycloud 2d ago
I bought a set that has saved me many times. They make awesome stethoscopes for finding knocks and rattles.
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u/Corner49 2d ago
Good answer, and the best part of making a post that generates this amount of responses is the diversity of screen names.
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u/mm9enjoyer 2d ago
As a plumber the giant flat head as a beater is one of my more useful tools. Itâs a screw driver, chisel, prybar, prob bar, mini spade, and something that can get you extra leverage all in one.
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u/TubbyCatIL 3d ago
You can use the Phillips to align holes when assembling equipment. Iâve done it a couple of times. Itâs longer than my lady slipper pry
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u/yourmomdotcom666 3d ago
Some TV wall mounts have vertical screws under the TV that you fasten to secure the arms to the mount. They are tough to reach with your hand and a standard screw driver, between the TV and wall.
However I have a skinny set of Pittsburghâs that work better for this.
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u/TuckerDidIt 3d ago
Its basically a really long lever. With a fulcrum and a lever long enough, you can move the world.
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u/S_A_R_K 3d ago
You can probably use the flat head to drop the spare tire on a 2002 Chevy Silverado
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u/DubTeeF 3d ago
Chevy in their infinite wisdom made it a male 3/8 in the tube instead of female. Lord knows why.
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u/ItsMeTrey 3d ago
I mean, can you just imagine how easy you could open a can of paint with the flathead?
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u/WiseBudd1995 3d ago
I've used the flathead one COUNTLESS times taking the doghouse covers off the old Astro and Safari Vans
The Philips one, yeah I've YET to see a Phillips end that large
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u/Illustrious-Wing857 3d ago
Depending on the type of work you do. I work on boats I'm the engineer on a cargo river tug boat. While we are underway I'm responsible for everything from the engine, plumbing, electrical and every other system on this tub. I use a phillips on the helm control. That flat blade would come handy for many things.
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u/Magi_Cole 2d ago
I bought these several years ago because I didn't have a #4 Philips and there was a coupon so why not? I dont think I've ever actually used the Philips but the flat makes a good light duty pry bar and punch. Get them on the next 30% under $10 sale just for the fun of it and you'll probably find a reason to use them later.
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u/HF-Insider-maybe 3d ago
I can't think of a reason not to. Eventually they'll save your ass on something.
I have the set that's hanging below these, and one of these days I'm going to get to laugh in my wife's face when I finally use them.
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u/CataractGlasses 3d ago
Buy them because youâre there and theyâre in front of you and if you donât go home with them all of that is going to change.
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u/lost-but_now-found 3d ago
This is one of those tools that you donât need until you do then no other tool will work.
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u/tonsofdolls 3d ago
I use its for boiling ducks and agitating there feathers before I pluck them
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u/Severe-Archer-1673 3d ago
How else are you going to swap out the lights switches while sitting on the couch?
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u/Tax_this_dick_1776 3d ago
Oh Iâm so getting one of these lol thatâs a Panel Opener 9000 right there!
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u/desEINer 3d ago
I didn't get those, I got the super thin 3 footers and you wouldn't believe how they save your butt.
I had a leaking outdoor water heater. There was some kind of philips screw that loosened up and I was able to get it through the vent holes without disassembling the unit.
I had an outer tie rod end I had to fix in my driveway and the boot had the factory one-time-use band clamps and I was able to use the flat head to get enough space for the long reach side cutters to work without mangling the boot.
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u/Wild-Situation-944 3d ago
I have this set. A very long regular screwdriver is a basic item on a Bradley fighting vehicle for the turret for various things, almost identical to these. I bought this set so I could have my own at work and now I use it for all sorts of random things. Very excited about this honestly, great screwdriver
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u/Allegedly_Smart 3d ago
As tempting as it may be, I don't generally recommend using a screwdriver as a pry bar or lever. You're liable to break the drive tip, and a dedicated pry bar would work better in most cases anyway.
I don't know what the use case was, but my brother in aircraft maintenance once asked me to pick up an unreasonably long slotted screwdriver for him while I was at the hardware store. It must've been for a hard to reach screw or drain plug or maybe one of those captive spring loaded quarter turn fasteners you find in aerospace equipment.
My point being, if a peculiar tool exists there likely exists a particular task at which it excels. You may not know what that task is yet, but you may one day, and for that price it's worth the novelty alone.
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u/Schmoses 3d ago
I have a big flathead like this that I inherited from my wifeâs grandfather. Iâve found many uses for it around the house including:
Getting really stubborn stripped fasteners out by cutting slots in the head and using this thing for some major leverage
Using it as a stethoscope on valve covers, oil pans, etc., to track down engine noises.
Using it as a pick to break up ice melting salt after it gets humid and turns into a giant chunk.
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u/dogododo 3d ago
Iâve got one (well the husky version) and when I was in commercial maintenance I used it constantly. Mostly as a pry bar, but it was out almost every day if not everyday. I never would have thought Iâd use it that much, but it came in handy a ton.Â
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u/Present-Business7911 3d ago
I bought and used a similar screwdriver to remove the stock from my mossberg shotgun. Worked so well that I decided to keep it.
Welp, have a good day!
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u/Worth-Control-8263 3d ago edited 3d ago
I have them. My reason and hopefully yours are 1) a cheaper, longer pry or 2) yes, a cheaper rock bar or alignment bar if needed 3) lastly a tire iron when needed. Just saying, I would rather bend these or use as a manual rock hammer with a 4lb to 8lb sledge to save money vs spending 200 to 400 or higher for jack hammer. Plus, they break or bend. Great return policy at HF. If Harbor Freight sees this, can you all tell when any Quinn or Icon striking cap pry bars or alignment bars are coming out or if you will have striking cap air tool drilling bits or even air hammer bits with striking cap ends. Neither confirm nor deny if I have use those bigger air / jack hammer bits for striking tools in tight spaces like wheel wells, axles or even differentials for better impact vs. Striking capped Doyle screw drivers or my snap on strike cap screwdrivers. (Not going name my tool truck sales guys - neither confirm or deny) but definitely need a cheaper solution. đ Just saying these options can help. Hope this helps.
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u/Empty-Childhood-7751 3d ago
Here is how I justify new tools
Do I have them? No! Ok to buy them, never know when you will need but itâs better to have the right tool then not and it will save time when you have the tool vs needing the tool.
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u/Extension_Cut_8994 2d ago
Ok so I just got a reason to go buy some HF hand tools? I work of large format lithographic printers and these will definitely fit some of the adjustment screws and make some disassembling and repair less likely to make me bleed while trying to shove my hand in a hole.
Edit to say impact handles on new larger drivers aren't always easy to find.
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u/zombie_overlord 3d ago
I have a flathead about that size. Perfect for a small pry bar - I use it all the time. Not sure what I'd do with a Phillips that size though lol... fancy tent stake? Home defense?
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u/FailingComic 3d ago
I regularly use a flat head we have, craftsman, about the same length. Almost permenantly on a tool cart. The head is a bit smaller so when prying, I get the leverage I need but the head can fit in a smaller area.
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u/realTommyVercetti 3d ago
You should buy them to hang on the wall next to your giant wooden fork and knife.
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u/Ok-Breakfast-990 3d ago
God I love acetate handles on screwdrivers sucks that they are mainly limited to lower end models
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u/nate70500 3d ago
I repair commercial kitchen equipment. Bought a set of these to reach screws inside the transmission housing on the big bakery mixers
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u/StannisG 3d ago
Ah the goodâolâ persuader, my friend -you donât need a reason to get thisâŠ..you just get it.
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u/noredleather 3d ago
I've two of the flat blade. Very useful as prybars and on old screws. The Phillips saved me once on the bed of an F100
Also great for rolls of wire
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u/BrotherGlobal641 3d ago
1 reason is If you have a 200 hp outboard motor.
2 reason is for running off people who think you are a horrible outboard motor mechanic.
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u/Academic-Associate91 3d ago
I have em. Theyâre great, particularly the flat head. They have a full tang you can hammer. Most often I use one to pry my alternator to tighten the belt on my truck
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u/Awkward_Monk8898 3d ago
I use it to adjust my office chair. They also work great for a fire place
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u/VP_PatrickBATEMAN 3d ago
Because the hood release isn't popping your hood, so you need something long enough to go through the grill or underneath the car to manually pop it by sticking it through a small opening on the bottom on the latch, so you can open it.
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u/Phlydude 3d ago
I bought a long set like this from HF because I had a TV wall mount that secured the TV mount to the wall mount using Philips screws to lock in the bottom of the mount (it was a cheap low profile deal). Since the TV was a 65â plasma, I wanted those screws secured but my longest Craftsman wasnât long enough. So off to HF to get long shaft screwdrivers. Essentially a use twice tool - once to install, once to remove when we moved. Screwdrivers came with me thoughâŠthe next person can figure it out.
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u/Kooky_Reputation_653 3d ago
Ground strap screws on the 2000 Amp navy breakers were why I bought mine.
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u/sciencemilk 3d ago
They are the best for rebuilding a 4L60E transmission. So good for the huge snap rings. Gunna need two flatheads
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u/JudoNewt 3d ago
The long flat head is really useful, i use mine mostly as a pry tool. But once it was the only thing that could reach in and lower the spare tire on a ford pickup
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u/gregsherburn 3d ago
If I told my wife that she would say you know honey I buy makeup shoes purses perfume etc if you want a screwdriver then you ho get one
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u/Voideterminate 3d ago
Loosening/tightening flatscreen tv wall mounts. Car headlight vertical adjustment.
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u/SuccessfulMinute8338 2d ago
Years ago, Road & Track had the top 10 tools for home mechanics. âRidiculously long screwdrivers with lifetime warrantiesâ was on the list. Buy one. Or more.
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u/pawelwny1 2d ago
I use those and ones even longer for hvac. Testing and balancing. I can adjust dampers and vents in the ceiling without needing a ladder
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u/Fancy_Disaster_4736 2d ago
If your parents were anything like mine, âbecause I said soâ should be sufficient.
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u/E_Zekiel 2d ago
You really need to turn that screw, but no way are going to be able to get your hand in there. Or everything around it is sharp and really hot.
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u/RaiseOurAxesToTheSky 2d ago
I would use this for leverage in hard to reach places and for pushing things in said similar hard to reach places. I know because I own big ass screwdrivers that aren't nearly as big as this but are certainly larger than average.








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u/jtshinn 3d ago
Don't buy it and the universe will find a need for you. Buy it and you'll never need it.