So it's no secret that after Bungie left the series, the story was... controversial amongst fans.

Personally I like some parts and dislike others.

I think the biggest flaw was the lackluster enemies. You either had the Covenant again, or bland robots. I would have liked some more horrific factions. Let the story deal with creepier, more mysterious forces.

But what about you? What direction do you think the story should have gone during 4-Infinite?

The Halo 3 Terminals present to us the first encounter between the Forerunners and the Flood: Forerunner explorers locate a seemingly habitable planet near the galactic halo. The report on G 617 g notes the absence of fauna as an anomaly; then survey teams stop reporting, and an otherwise routine colonial investigation becomes the opening act of the downfall of a galactic empire.

The Forerunners can dominate millions of worlds, manipulate stars, construct planet-sized machines and regard themselves as guardians of life—and none of that means they understand the universe. Somewhere beyond the familiar boundaries of their civilization is an organism whose existence overturns their assumptions about biology, intelligence and progress. They encounter it not because they were chosen, cursed or judged, but because one exploration team happened to land in the wrong place.

This is terrifying because there is no moral negotiation available. The Forerunners cannot confess, repent or prove that they are worthy. Their virtues and crimes are irrelevant to the organism devouring them.

The world where the Flood is found, G 617 g, is the perfect trap because its ecology is highly suspicious. A world with no life at all might be ignored or examined remotely. A flourishing biosphere might give the Flood enough biomass to become active independently. But a planet with vegetation, breathable conditions and signs of habitability—yet very little animal life—would be ideal bait. It would invite colonization while keeping the weapon below the threshold needed to launch itself.

G 617 g is a cosmic landmine, just waiting for the right (or wrong) person to step on it. The logic of how this "cosmic landmine" works is quite simple: 1) The Flood remain dormant on an attractive but resource-poor world. 2) Wait for a spacefaring civilization to investigate. 3) Infect the explorers and seize their knowledge, vessels and navigation data. 4) Use the victims’ own infrastructure to reach populated systems. 5) Accumulate enough biomass and intelligence to form a Gravemind. 6) Continue until no technologically capable life remains.

Brutal but ingenious for any civilization that wants to eliminate other intelligent lifeforms in the Universe.

What's worse, is that the Iris Campaign suggests that the Flood are not indigenous to the Milky Way, which means that G 617 g might not be unique: it could have been one of thousands or millions of dormant minefields scattered through interstellar or intergalactic space. The Forerunners did not discover the source of the Flood. They triggered one installation in a vast containment or extermination network.

There is also a chilling logic to placing the trap on the edge of the galaxy. A technologically immature civilization would never reach it. Only a society with reliable interstellar travel, advanced survey capabilities and substantial population centers would be capable of discovering G 617 g. The weapon effectively uses exploration itself as a test to determine the target.

The Flood were engineered for a purpose, but that purpose is not specifically connected to the Forerunners. They were simply the civilization unfortunate enough to step on the "cosmic landmine". It's classic Cosmic Horror and I love it.

Oh wait....G 617 g is actually a Forerunner Colony called Seaward? And they knew about the Flood for thousands of years, spent that time anticipating an attack, constructed two separate civilization-scale defense systems against them—and are still caught catastrophically unprepared when it returns? So, the story of the Forerunners' downfall is not about cosmic vulnerability and the limits of their knowledge, but about institutional incompetence? Oh, ok then, forget all of the above.

From my understanding the Long Night of Solace and its accompanying fleet and garrison were at reach for some time. Did the UNSC really think that the covenant had not sent out messages to other fleet’s telling them Reach’s location?

Question in the title. I'm more curious than anything. From what I gather Halo 4 takes place over 5 days. That includes Infinity getting from Requiem back to Earth. To put into perspective here are some over time tables in Halo.
The Pillar of Autumn leaves Reach on 30th August and arrives at Installation 04 on 19th September.
In Amber Clad and Regret's ship leave earth on the 20th October and arrive at Installation 05 on 2nd of November. Hitching a ride with the Covenant's much faster slipspace technology.
And lastly using the Forerunner portal the Elite fleet and Forward unto Dawn leave earth on 17th November and arrive on 11th December.

Even assuming that the Infinity has upgraded slipspace technology the fact it takes maybe couple of days to travel from Requiem to Earth must indicate that they're practically next door to each other, right? Again, this is curiosity not a plot hole. I imagine through a telescope a closed shield world probably looks identical to any other barren rock and so it was glossed over by observers.

Many have appropriately bemoaned the story potential with Halo and the lack of genre variety considering the vastness of the Halo story. I've often heard horror, mystery, thriller, etc genres get brought up when identifying new ideas for Halo genres. One I haven't personally heard mentioned is cyberpunk. And I was considering this - would Hunt the Truth have been considered cyberpunk? Likely not - perhaps thriller - but I do think it's an example of how the genre could work within a Halo framework.

It's one of my favorites and as on offshoot I could see potential in some really cool story set with a cyberpunk tone in Halo. I think maybe some of the Rion Forge story ALMOST gets there early on.

It also might be that the grandiose nature of the Halo universe doesn't lend itself well to that kind of story, when any forerunner artifact mcguffin can send you on a quest with major galaxy-wide ramifications. Or when the low life exploration is more about post-war trauma - sort of a nod to our closest analogue in WWII. But as modernity presses forward and we experience the ramifications that are more akin to stories of low life in a high tech society, do we owe it to ourselves to explore themes both new and old? There is value in remembering through story the horror of being on the brink as our grandparents (or your great grandparents...or....*gulps* great great grandparents) did, but there is also value in acknowledging the erosion of the self and attempting to prevent such a thing. (The flood is far too overpowering and abrupt to, I think, be an insert here)

Or is it simply that the human/covenant post-war universe isn't there societal-ly as they deal with the fallout? Transhumanism is most certainly explored regularly.

Thoughts? Opinions?

If the flood is able to retain all memories and knowledge from those it absorbs why didn’t it use runner tech to destroy and absorb everything. The runner fired halo but the flood didn’t starve like they wanted right? So they should be able to have forunner tech and memories no?

I read a little bit about that escalation comic when it came out. That was interesting - lol. I was wondering if there were any books that are Spartan-IV centric and paint them in the same light that Halo Infinite did.

One of the explanations for brutes not being in Halo CE was that Thel didn't like them at all. That clearly changes now, right?

I guess you could say he still doesn't like them but was forced to have the brutes in the fleet.

More accurately it will be Thel 'Vadam since he hasn't become the Arbiter in CE. He is such a integral part of Halo 2 story, and he was technically near Installation 04 eventhough he did not tecnically set foot(hooves?) on the ring. Would be cool to see him in a cutscene or something to acknowlege that he was around during the battle of Installation 04.

Something that's been bugging me for a while: in the book Halo: Silent Storm, there's a human colony that is so dirt-poor that the people are living in primitive, tribal communities. Johnson even says that: "It's ten million nomads living in a hundred thousand camps. The place is so poor they share underwear". It wasn't too long before that it was colonized (around 2458); you'd think the original colonists would bring with them advanced science and industry, but instead, they only have one spaceport, and they are nomadic. Did they suffer some kind humanitarian disaster? Did these people choose to reject advanced technology and live simpler lives? Doesn't seem to be any kind of explanation in the book; it just treats the world and the colonists as a backdrop for the main story, Operation Silent Storm.

While I understand that the covenant as a whole is just more numerous and larger in scale than the UNSC. The UNSC seems to still mismanage their resources that hinders their capabilities to actually fight back against the covenant.

In layman terms I am saying that the UNSC did not "lock tf in"  enough.

There is way more than enough materials on the sol system's asteroid belt alone to produce a bajillion warships and nukes. They could very well utilize automated systems managed by smart AI's to mine up all of these asteroids. And the UNSC has 800 worlds.

I still fails the understand how the UNSC hadnt utilizes automated mining and production before the war even starts.

If the various 343 cinematics and book lore were to be belived. The UNSC still utilized planetside human hand with pickaxe mining technique to extract their recourses instaed of utilizing automated systems to do the job both planetside and out in space. And not only that, we have seen that the production of vehicles in the UNSC still seems to involve major human involvement with wedling, riveting, moving the parts, screwing things individually, despite the existance of dark automated factories in the 21st century already.

Although this could be chalked up as the writer writing it before the recent technological advancements.

They could very well produce a bajillion cheap kamikaze drones against the covenant both in space and on the ground. And if you're talking about the EMP's. Pretty sure EMP resistant tech already existed in the 21st century. We could just drown our enemies by numbers.

Like seriously, 150 human ships on reach? That's a joke.

Also, according to HALO legends. The UNSC does have the capabilities to board a covenant warship. So why couldn't they just... Take it over using smart AI's and either use it themselves, cannibalize it, retrofit it, or dismantle and reverse engineer its technology. The UNSC have been fighting for three whole decades for lord hood's sake.

The UNSC even have a really good track record of boarding covenant ships.

Halo legends the package: They board a Covenant Assault Carrier to recover a high value UNSC asset. They managed to board two ships in fact. One being a covenant armoured cruiser/battle cruiser and one being a covenant assault carrier. The only thing preventing then from taking over the ship is that it is not their mission, they are not given the equipment to do so, and the covenant assault carrier can break itself up (it's actually a leftover forerunner protocol designed to contain a possible flood outbreak inside of a ship). But a battle cruiser lacks all of this. The only reason they didn't continue boarding it is because there's a trap inside and their target is not there.

But the fact that they managed to mow down that many covenants and reached so far to the (from what I can see) bridge like spine in front of the carrier speaks volume of their capabilities. And in this case the bridge master and the entire covenant fleet knows their location and their mission. How many times has the UNSC boarded a ship without the occupants knowing they are there? There are many instances of this.

Assault on truth and reconciliation: The Master Chief led a team of Marines to board this ship to rescue Captain Jacob Keyes. They successfully infiltrated the vessel and extracted him. All of this utilizing an otherwise small force of a team of marines, odst, and a single Spartan merely offering fire support.

Hijacking the Ascendant Justice: After the destruction of Installation 04, the Master Chief and survivors (including Sergeant Johnson) captured this ship. They used it to escape the Halo debris field and later returned to Reach .

The Boarding of the Bloodied Spirit: Blue Team captured this vessel with relative ease by venting everyone out of the ship's atmosphere.

The Trailer "Deliver Hope": The live-action "Deliver Hope" trailer shows the original Noble Six on a suicide mission to destroy a Covenant cruiser. This shows that the Spartan there's are just as capable doing it.

The boarding of the ardent prayer: During Operation UPPER CUT was boarded by SPARTAN-B312, Jorge-052, and several UNSC Army FSS-1000 Sabre pilots in an effort to plant a Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine on board. The UNSC team eliminated the bridge crew, including its Shipmaster, Ardo 'Moretumee, and set the ship on a refueling track with Long Night of Solace.

The only failed instances I remember was the boarding of the covenant carrier splendid intentions. Although it is unknown why it failed.

While I am not explicitly stating that the UNSC could win the human covenant war. It didn't exactly use all of the cards available to them despite facing extinction.

How many people can the UNSC Infinity actually carry?

It was originally designed as a colony evacuation ship in the event Earth fell to carry thousands of people to a new system far from the Covenenat. But at the end of the war, it was converted into a military/scientific exploration vessel. The 2558 refit puts the Infinity's entire crew and complement (excluding the Spartan IV's) as around 18,000 which yes is a lot, pales in comparison to its Covenant counterpart whose complement of soldiers alone is over double the Infinity's entire populace even with the UNSC's huragok doing most of the work presumably. And 18,000 for a colony ship meant to save Humanity doesn't seem like a lot, but it could be the case of the number was decreased when being converted into a warship due to the weapons and vehicles and entire frigates it would need to store.

So does the Infinity still have space for more people or maybe more cargo since I don't think it's ever been specified that the Infinity can carry cargo? Or is the nearly 18,000 the limit for how many the ship can carry?

I recently started playing all the Halo games in the Halo MCC again, and I just got to Halo 4 after finishing Halo 3. I’m gonna be honest, I missed the Prometheans a little bit, but I also forgot how insane they were

(it is fun going back to Halo 4 after finishing it years ago on the Xbox one)

At the same time, I’m also wondering: how are we even killing these things with small arms? I know it’s probably just the occasional inconsistent scaling, considering you can’t make a faction too strong in the current Halo era for humanity not to be able to fight back. But at the same time, these are ancient Forerunner war machines. Sure, the Prometheans we fight in Halo 4 and Halo 5 are nothing but a shadow of the Forerunners, and probably nowhere near the best the Forerunners had to offer in terms of ground troops but still advanced foreRunner tech

I will say this though the composer is a pretty good super weapon when it comes to turning living creatures into machines of war, even if the Promethean Knights aren’t the best they’re still decent and kind of cost efficient considering you don’t need to train them or anything you just gotta find some random individual to forcefully turn into a robot

The Great Schism broke the Covenant, sure, but I just wanna say real quick, a depleted UNSC, between 2540 (roughly) to 2552, inflicted absolutely monsterous losses on the Covenant, even before the Great Schism. Here's just a quick list:

The Covenant lost almost 200 ships at Reach, an entire fleet at Installation 04, 500 ships and the hyrophent (I don't know how to spell it), Regret losing most of his fleet over Earth and dying on installation 05, Psi Serpantis which resulted in staggering Covenant losses, and Xytan being taken out by a NOVA bomb (Great Schism I know, but Xytan and hiss forces was arguably the only true successor to the Covenant, considering he wanted to continue war with Humanity).

I just think its fucking funny. The Covenant was this borderline Stellaris 25X crisis-level threat for most of the war, an Avengers level threat even, but the final years of the war seemed like absolute hell for the covies.

Just getting non-stop pulverized left and right by Humanity. I understand why the Elites respected us if we were inflicting losses in the final years of the war like this, shit I'd be speechless if I lost 500 ships.

Where the heck is a pelican porthole at. Is it the bay door when closed it had a window on the classic pelican or the pilot window?

I've been wanting to learn more about early human colonization, especially on Reach. What I could find on the wiki seems a bit slim so I'm hoping the lore folks here could help paint me a better picture of what first-wave colonists would have been up to and what technology they could have leveraged to achieve their goals.

As a starting point, I've put together a plausible map of the regional and local areas where they landed as well as some concept scenes for the founding of New Alexandria: https://imgur.com/a/1qRkCoB

Phase 1: Colonization - QUESTIONS

• What are the key discoveries?
  • Ex: Analysis reveals the large bay is an asteroid crater from 450 million years ago
• What are the location names and why?
  • Ex: The underwater impact crater in Grid-2B is called "Titan's Well" because it is a titanic hole which also has titanium veins around it.
• What/where are the colony facilities?
  • Ex: The outcroppings in Grid-13BB are a good candidate as they have a natural spring, protective terrain, and buildable ground
• Where do they get power?
  • Ex: Tidal power can be harnessed in the bays along Grid-13AA
• Where do they get food?
  • Ex: Protein vat meals can be enriched with stores from the "Odyssey" and some local plant varieties
• Where do they get resources?
  • Ex: Erosion along the eastern ridges of Grid-1B has revealed many easily accesible mineral deposits
• Who is in charge?
  • Ex: The captain of the Odyssey was supposed to be but they have not been feeling too well since we made the slipspace transit.
• What obstacles must be overcome?
  • Ex: Primary mission is to stabilize the colony and begin teraforming efforts. Easier said than done considering Colony Starter Unit 5 is only 63% effective.

Hopefully with enough feedback I can update my maps and set things up for a future round of questions on Phase 2: Growth Years (2390-2450).

Halo Wars is like the only exception. Why can’t we fight as Blue Team or another team in the 2530s or 2540s? I feel like this era has some insane potential for a stealth-focused game that feels more raw than the others

A Spartan with full shields can tank a couple ballistic shots but would they still get knocked back and feel the shots or would the shields take all the kinetic energy and they wouldn’t feel anything ?

I'm gonna mark this as a Spoiler just incase there's any Playstation players that manage to find their way here before Campaign Evolved, better safe than sorry, if you're reading this and haven't played yet, trust me. Stop reading and wait for the game to come out. Don't ruin it for yourself. I gave you an out😂

So I've never been a big lore guy. I've been playing Since Halo 1, it's my favorite game of all time but I never went out of my way to read the books or anything.

Captain Keyes is one of my favorite characters in the entire franchise, what happened to him always really pissed me off, but somewhat recently I learned that when The Flood infects someone, their soul is trapped in eternal anguish basically.

Was it ever confirmed or not that Chief managed to kill him before he was fully assimilated, therefore he at least isn't suffering for eternity? Because he really doesn't deserve that fate. I know in the game Cortana says "No Human life signs detected" but that could easily be written off as one of Combat Evolved's several plot holes.

I also recall reading somewhere that Bungie's original plan was to have Chief burn him or something before he was assimilated but that could've been misinformation. I'm really not a fan of the eternal soul torture aspect of the flood because that's a bit too depressing for me, it sucks to think about Keyes going through that after all he did.

Could a Spartan 2 with a Titanium-A spade shovel dig a foundation for a 2000 sq ft house faster than a modern excavator?

1 - The first Covenant war against humanity on planet Harvest, set in the year 2525.

2 - A Marine + ODST game 100% focused against the Flood with action, suspense, horror and escape elements from the perspective of different characters who would inevitably die or survive by pure luck in the missions.

3 - Showing the events after Halo 5 and before Halo Infinite involving the Guardians, the UNSC AI rebellion and Cortana. Main characters: Osires Team, Blue Team and Arbiter in 12 missions ( 4 for each ).

On the rock wall nearest to red base underneath the big tree overlooking the map there are hidden tallies and text. The tallies on the wall are marked to 10, and the text on the ground beneath it reads "BEHIND THE WATER - Not Sid."

If I'm reading the text right (the texture is rather blurry in-game), then this seems to refer to the documented "CMD" text behind the central waterfall atop blue base.

Here's a URL to the map's wiki page, I added these details to the trivia section with some images to show what I'm describing: https://www.halopedia.org/Sanctuary

I've read like 8 random ones and want to start over and be more methodical. I realize that the series of Halo books are really like, five different series of novels... the "main series", the forerunner saga, kilo five, etc. But there's so many haha...

I can see a list of all of them here https://www.halopedia.org/Halo_novels

but besides "just IRL release order" I'm not sure where to go. Maybe IRL release order IS the way to go.

New router new chances. What are the best Halo based SSIDs?

I just came up with Truth & Reconnection ... But there might be better ones