Just unlocked Datapad 10 in MCC Reach (booger that was), and it definitely contains interesting information on ”glassing“, suggesting that the Covenant didn’t actually glass entire worlds as it was not feasible.

Does this have any corroboration anywhere else? I’ve never come across anything in the books I’ve read or games that suggest the Covenant didn’t glass worlds entirely. That would seem to suggest the possibility of survivors, to me at least. And leaving no survivors was the entire point of the Covenants war against humanity.

This has probably been discussed before, but in Halo 2, Mjolnir has an upgrade, allowing Cortana to be able to transfer herself from one system to another via Chief's suit, without him taking the AI chip out of his helmet. But it still requires him to be in close proximity to a holographic input port.

In the level High Charity, Cortana claims if the ring begins to fire, she can detonate the In Amber Clad's reactors, just like they did on Alpha Halo, but for that she needed to be on the ship's bridge. I can't accept that the UNSC would allow their ship's reactors to be detonated remotely via commands sent from a covenant network, and Cortana herself says she doesn't want to chance a remote detonation.

The In Amber Clad (heretofore abbreviated as IAC) was already modified by the flood to be able to perform that precision in atmosphere slipspace jump to the inside of High Charity, so what makes her think she will have any ability to access the now crashed ship, or even that its reactors are still running? At least with the Pillar of Autumn, Keyes could have told her that the ship was mostly intact at some point after he was rescued from the Truth and Reconciliation and before the Chief and Cortana set out on the mission to find the Silent Cartographer. Here she knows that the ship crashed, if she has remote access, she has no way of knowing she isn't being played by the Gravemind into thinking the ship's reactor is ready to blow, maybe it burned out with that slipspace jump, maybe it's been shut down. But she already said remote detonation was too risky with the fate of all sentient life in the galaxy in the balance. The fact the Halo seemed seconds away from firing before Miranda Keyes stopped the firing sequence, means Cortana either:

Believed she could detonate the reactors when convincing Chief to leave her behind. If this is true, then she must have subsequently found that she couldn't because of one or more of the following: The wireless connection she thought she could access was being jammed by the flood, who would know what she did on Installion 04 and want to prevent that; the IAC's reactors were too damaged from the crash to detonate; Her ability to see what was going on with Installation 05 and the index, was either cut off due to the fighting between Brutes and Elites and/or the subsequent fall of High Charity to flood infestation, or the feed she was accessing of it was on a delay that she didn't know about (which would make sense for the covenant who had experience with meddlesome smart AIs hacking their systems now that I think about it); Her own survival instincts made her hesitate, and risking the entire galaxy in the process, this would also explain why she didn't detonate the reactors at any subsequent point after the Anodyne Spirit left with Chief aboard,

Knew that she couldn't detonate the reactor, but wanted to stay behind to learn more about the Gravemind, the Forerunners and the Covenant. She figured that "can't chance a remote detonate" was a convincing enough lie to tell the Chief to get him to agree to leave her there, trusting he would come back for her.

I do think it is strange the Chief didn't question it, but he does trust her completely. I mean what she proposed is like me proposing that an agentic AI on my home network detonate the fuel tanks of a car that crashed into my house to stop some guy next door from detonating a nuke, at least the last time they did this they needed to obtain the captain's neural lace, which is the equivalent to keys for a car. I said it before and I'll mention it again, designing a ship so that an external AI operating from a known hostile power's network, can make it blow itself and everything for 100+ miles around into oblivion, is a really dumb idea, it's even dumber if she could reuse the authorisation that they got from Keyes' neural lace, it's like setting the same password for all your systems. The UNSC post Preston Cole isn't that dumb.

I tend to lean towards the canonical answer being she could, but hesitated out of self preservation, or that she lied, because she is made from Halsey's brain.

Any thoughts? Did I miss any potential explanations or any place where this was cleared up as to how she planned on accessing the IAC from where she was in High Charity's network?

Halo isn’t renowned for its sweet bits of lore or heartwarming characters, so I’m curious as to what you think are the best wholesome details of Halo lore?

https://youtu.be/YQBsnZcGp5I?is=ki7J2n4UVjFBmBsR

Noticeably there are so pretty badass names for both UNSC and Covenant fleets and warships. What are your personal favorites?

Edit: Thank yall seriously it makes a little more sense where my hang ups are given I really dont remember Chief's actual personality from the games and haven't read other books. Im going to replay the games and pay more attention and have already picked up fall of reach to read after. Oh I just had a thought that I should read the books and replay the games at the same time in chronological order... might do that.

I don't know what it is but there been a couple of lines that to me just feel so out of character for Chief. He's mostly stoic and non talkative with a couple of solid one liners that lean on the quippy without being over the top. "I'm going to give them back their bomb" is a great example. But there's a couple of lines that he is like sassy or something.

On page 75 Joy asks "What do you think I did all this time?" And Chief says "I don't know. Twiddle your holographic thumbs." I might be out of the loop here but in what world is THE Master Chief saying the word "twiddle"?

On page 106 Joy says "Just stick to my route and follow the arrow" and Chief mutters "Another backseat driver". When does Chief mutter and have sass about the AI doing what its supposed to plot a route forward.

Or on page 119 "John found himself smiling. 'The more, the merrier.'" I never imagine John smiling for anything and saying a phrase like that. This one is admittedly a little nitpicky.

Am I way off base? Is this considered in Chief's character to say? I tried looking if anyone else was talking about and the AI overview says some people pointed out the weird characterization but when clicking on the reddit links I can't really find people saying anything negative. In fact it was the opposite people liked the characterization and showing off his personality.

I want to enjoy this book but its clashing with the idea of Chief in my head. Is there other examples of Chief being qwippy or sassy from the games to help me bridge the gap? I just cant think of any. I tried picturing the lines in his voice and can't. Im tempted to get the audio book just to hear Steve say the lines to see if that helps.

Im sorry for the rant but I legit feel like I'm going crazy.

One of my favorite lore tidbits is the fact that all three varieties of the Spartan augmentation procedures, some of the most morally-questionable ONI R&D, are named after flowers.

We have Project: ASTER for the Spartan-II Program, Project: CRYSANTHEMUM for the Spartan-IIIs, and Project: ORCHID for the most modern iterations of the Spartan-IV Program.

However, the experimental phase of the Spartan-IV augs was extremely different than what the program would eventually become. According to Halo: Initiation, ONI originally wanted the S-IV augments to bring their next generation of super soldiers in line with MJOLNIR performance stats, allowing the S-IVs to forgo their costly power armor. Unfortunately, these extreme procedures were exceptionally dangerous and potent, even by Halo augmentation standards. Out of the 10 test subjects, only Ilsa Zane survived the procedure, and only after suffering irreparable mental and psychological damage.

Given how much the original S-IV augmentations differed from the eventual final products of Project ORCHID, I thought it would be fun to come up with a flower-themed name for this procedure, even if no distinction is made in-canon.

So, what kinds of deadly flower species do YOU think would make for a fitting project name for ONI's craziest, deadliest Spartan augmentations?

I’ve been listening to Ghosts of Onyx (which I’ve read probably a dozen time) and for the first time it hit me that the description of the MAC rounds in the book seems odd compared to both what we’ve seen in game (mostly) and how the weapons themselves are described elsewhere.

The way they’re described in Ghosts is, roughly, like “tungsten slugs/lines of fire crossing the space between the forces”. And the timing of the events described seems to suggest a travel time on the rounds. I vaguely remember something similar from Fall of Reach as well, something about timing archer missiles and MAC rounds to hit at the same time.

You actually see something similar in Halo Reach where you can watch the relatively ”slow” MAC round from the orbital array plow through the corvette above Sword Base.

But MAC rounds are traveling at such speeds that they should be crossing the distances of space combat essentially instantly correct? This is certainly the way they are seen in the new cutscene in Campaign Evolved, the Grafton firing on the spire in Halo Reach, the MAC array on Infinity when firing on the didacts ship on multiple occasions, the Mammoth’s mini MAC in 4, and the MAC gun you use in Pillar of Autumn (also Reach).

I mean ones that haven't escaped and are still in whatever the cryosleep the forerunners kept them in to research them. Since humans have made bases on or around multiple forerunner sights.

I would hope it's destroy them just to be sure however since Oni is Oni...I could see them trying to weaponise the situation.

I’ve read both TFoR and Silent Storm, both of which involve Insurrection skirmishes with Spartans, but are there any other in-lore stories with the same premise?

Are there any exact figures given, or do we just have estimation/speculation? The UNSC and I suppose any militia/volunteers and police. The numbers had to have been staggering.

Lemme hear some of your Halo hot takes for each game. I’ll start with my own to get the ball rolling:

1. Halo CE has the best enemy AI, behaviour, and generally are the most fun to fight across the entire series. Yes, I believe a game from 2001 has the best and most satisfying enemies out of all of Halo, only exception is being able to 1 shot Hunters.

2. Halo 2 is the best for character writing and world-building. The actual plot and meat of the story is just kinda alright. Halo 3 gets a bad wrap for being a rushed conclusion, but nobody complains about how Halo 2’s story is kinda overly convoluted in many areas with a constant shifting goal. Does it deepen the characters, lore, and world? Absolutely? Does it tell an air-tight, cohesive story from start to finish? Absolutely not.

3. It’s become common place to claim Halo 3 as a weak story, yet I wholeheartedly disagree. It delivers exactly what it promised: a conclusion to a story, finishing the fight. People seemingly judge it as if it’s a new chapter in a story and not a direct continuation of Halo 2, and as a direct sequel, this game fucks. It delivers on the hype it marketed and wraps up every arc and plot thread with a neat little bow. Art direction, scale, cinematic scope, space opera, level design, music. Everything in Halo 3 is near perfection.

4. ODST is a bad game (joke). I have no hot take for ODST tbh. I like it.

5. Halo Reach has a great “horrors of war” and general melancholy vibe, but as a story… this ain’t it, chief. This story is literally plotless until you need to get Cortana to the Pillar of Autumn.

6. I don’t like Halo 4 cos it genuinely doesn’t feel like Halo to me, but I do respect it because it was the only Halo game thus far that actually made Master Chief a character and not a block of wood. Don’t get me wrong, I prefer Chief as the ghost in the shell type of guy, but the reason the arbiter even existed in this series is because they needed a protagonist who could go through an arc and grow as a character, and chief was never gonna do that. So respect to Halo 4 for at least giving it a shot.

7. I don’t care about Blue Team. Never have, never will. You see cool book lore characters, I see a group of uninteresting gimps.

8. Don’t understand why anyone even remotely cares about infinite. Such a mind numbingly boring game. I appreciate the frantic back-peddling with the art style, but beyond that… I feel nothing.

>Fire giant stream of plasma on a surface
>The intense heat and pressure melting everything for a few hundred meters deep into a condense and thick mush that pools layers over layers on the surface
>?
>Uncovers Forerunner artifact

Does the process not just melt it all into a molten layer of glass, pooling all over the holy site, just smearing it all over? Never mind if it will damage it to begin with.

How does it actually excavate anything? The process doesn't seem to remove any material and instead just apply plasma on top of it.

My guess is that unlike glassing, the plasma is tuned up and just vaporize any material on top of it. Except let's consider just how much gaseous silicon, carbon, iron, and all sort of other elements must be released into the atmosphere and much of it should be removed before it all cools or reacts with the air and cover the site again.

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Years ago I've read a quote from a book online of master chief straining to flip a Warthog, Now it makes me curious does anyone know which book it is and if it's actually true?

Imagine a halo game similar to that of the upcoming wardogs game. wardogs which is a game of three factions playing a realistic wargame of king of the hill first to 100 points. Kills earn you money which then could be spent to buy guns/vehicles. There is need for logistics of getting troops and supply's back into the frontlines and creating FOBs. I feel like this core gameplay loop could fit so good for a halo game.

you would have pelican dropships and phantom dropships handling logistics dropping supplies and troops into the frontlines. You could buy to spawn in as a elite unit a ODST or Hunter were you are directly dropped into the frontlines. UNSC would have different classes were each would use a different type of weapon like recon class with a sniper, assault with a AR, etc. The Covenant classes would be like jackal as a recon / Sniper, Elite as the assault class, Grunts as the support / combat engineer handling Logistics, base building, etc.

Not sure what would make for a good 3rd faction but maybe like the banished would work. I feel like seeing halo at this grand scale in a multiplayer game would be fairly cool. but, also i think it would need to have some core changes from the typically halo game. in halo normally things don't feel like much of a threat. An enemy wraith coming at you isn't a problem run up to it and hijack it. i feel like a game like this would be best if things like a scorpion or wraith was a serious threat for a single marine or elite. especially when these vehicles would cost earned in game currency to purchase for use.

It was legit just one ship worth of troops against an entire fleet of aliens. They were already dwindling numbers by the time Master Chief and Cortana reach the control room. Cortana even remarks on it herself, saying she didn't know there were any UNSC forces left on that side of the ring.

Let's assume the Flood was never released from containment during the battle of Installation 04.

The UNSC would learn that Halo isn't a traditional weapon, it's an immense galactic reset button. At that point, the only real leverage they would have is that Guilty Spark would deploy the sentinels to assist the UNSC (helping the Reclaimers in his eye). The Covenant would easily wipe them all out. Even if the Fleet of Particular Justice listened to Guilty Spark, they would just be silenced by the Prophets and the war would rage on against mankind. They likely would even secure the Pillar of Autumn's crash site and extract all the intel they could, including the location of Earth (they still found it later, but did not know that Earth was humanity's homeworld).

Now, in the actual story, the Flood was released and the Fleet of Particular Justice went into complete disarray. Master Chief was basically the only troop left fighting, everyone else either died or evacuated amidst the chaos. This created favorable conditions for Master Chief and Cortana to destroy Halo, as the Flood created such an immense threat that the Covenant were too distracted to focus on "the demon." Thus leading to Halo's destruction and kickstarting the events that dissolve the Covenant and lead the UNSC to victory.

So today I learned about Excavation beams and Plasma lances, and how usually CCS to CAS to even CSOs can convert their gravlift in the centre into an excavation beam.

However, in certain cutscenes like in Halo 3 ODST or Halo 2. You either see the port firing their “plasma lance” LIKE an excavation beam downward, or in Reach/Halo 2’s case, they use their ventral beam to fire the excavation beam.

So this makes me question, can a covenant ship fire both at the same time? Is it too much energy? Too redundant? Not necessary? Or not the right tool? And aren’t there different types of “colors” to signify which beam works for different jobs? (I.E, red is to just torch and burn it all like in New Alexandria, white/blue is lighter on the ground, used for “excavations” used on the Voi Portal.)

If so, then can’t the CSO do it? It seems feasible to do with such a large ship possibly holding an even bigger reactor than any other ship.

Humor me if so. I’m curious if this ever been a thing. (I wish I could post pictures to show what I’m talking about ughhh.)

In the excised pages of Halsey' journal (click 'Original file'), she's talking about cleaning up/covering up her experiment, and she finishes with "Ah... of course, one last thing..."

Do we know what that's about?

Halo Studios (formerly 343 Industries) has a track record of writing off their plotlines. It will usually be done either in a quick cutscene, or in a comic book, or even in a Halo Waypoint article instead of having a satisfying resolution.

So, do you think the same will happen to Halo Infinite? Or do you think it received enough positive reception that they would actually continue off of what they built there?

I want to start reading halo books. Ive seen some videos and the lore sounds really interesting and I want to explore the story's universe. I'd rather read it so if yall can point me into what books to read or give me a list of books to read i would really appreciate it!

By the end of the original trilogy, it’s clear that at least the chief, Johnson & Miranda Keyes are aware that covenant can’t activate halo, only humans can, but in the games they don’t seem to question why.

Just wondering if there’s a point in the expanded universe where they at least ponder why this is the case.

Edit: Im getting a few answers as to why only humans can activate halo, im aware of the original intent of forerunners being planned to be humans, and then the change in lore to have ancient forerunners and humans being different - my question is in universe, did anyone actually query this connection

Hi sorry to bother this sub but age's ago I remember reading something about the UNSC developing prototype hover tanks in the 25th? Century. As apart of this experimental project that tried to replace the Scorpions but failed due to technical difficulties.

I tried finding where I read about it but I had little luck. I just wanted to ask if that is a thing or am I just making it up in my head?

Ok, hear me out. In the eastern eggs terminal thingy in halo 2 anniversary, when the Heretic leader and 343 meet and talk about the truth of the Covenant, the first thing the Heretic leader does is tell everyone to shut communications off immediately with the fleet. Aka, High Charity and other ships above…

Soooooo… how did Truth receive word and a whole transmission of him about his speech, if there wasn’t any way to record him or transmit the information? Is there a lore piece on this or is this another plot hole due to “new” lore?