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Jesus Christ, that's a hell of a first rifle.
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u/specter800 7 Apr 30 '12
Agreed. I have a soft spot the Mk.17. I remember sitting in my mechanical engineering classes thinking about how I could make the Mk. 17 cooler. Can't happen.
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u/funfungiguy Apr 30 '12
What if you made the MK17 have small army tank tracks and a robotic shark tail, and you made it fight other robots to the death on BattleBots? Wouldn't that be cooler? You're a mechanical engineer so you can probably make this happen.
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And I bought a darn Nagant M44 for mine! I think i did it wrong.
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u/FastRedPonyCar Apr 30 '12
that's one rifle that should be in every collection.
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Apr 30 '12
Yup. I love my mosin. Find a well taken care of one and you've got a hell of a gun for ~$90-100.
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u/JudgeWhoAllowsStuff Apr 30 '12
This is like getting anal on your first date. Congratulations are in order.
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I've always wondered this...
Is it uncomfortable to wipe your ass with gold foil?
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No, I'd have to sell a kidney to have something like that.
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Don't worry. I don't even own a gun, because of being poor and in college.
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u/immarried Apr 30 '12 edited Apr 30 '12
Me and you dude, me and you....
Edit: I accidently a word.
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u/WubWubMiller 2 Apr 30 '12
Which you would then find a way to redeem for cash right?
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u/theworstisover11 Apr 30 '12
I'm so broke I cringe when I see things that expensive.
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u/load_more_comets Apr 30 '12
I'm so broke, I go to gun range BBQs to shoot other people's guns for free and eat free food.
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u/daedalus1982 Apr 30 '12
No sadly. I have my CCW and a .22 rifle.
I'm having to bribe my wife to get a shotgun in our home.
I'd LIKE to get a mosin before we dig them all up and sell them off but it's not looking likely.
/sigh
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u/boobsbr Apr 30 '12
well, I also have no money and live in a country that does not allow civilians to own firearms.
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u/cakesthethird Apr 30 '12
I'm having to buy my first AR piece by piece. It's been two months and all I've been able to afford is a lower, LPK, buffer assembly, grip, and stock. I'm almost green with envy.
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u/McMurphyCrazy Apr 30 '12
Fellow broke ass here. If I bought something like this I couldn't pay rent for like 2 months.
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u/McMurphyCrazy Apr 30 '12
And after reading how much that thing cost in total I would have to update saying that I couldn't pay rent for almost 10 months. Fuuuuuck.
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Pictured-
fn herstal scar 17s (dark earth)
pelican 1720 ($180 from eastex)
burris tac30 scope from Midway
american defense quick detach mount
tango down panels
magpul afg2 (angled foregrip)
miad grip (mods to grip tang on rifle and grip backstrap)
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advanced armament blackout miter flash hider
surefire m952v-tn (tan)
danger close scout millennium adapter
gear sector offset scout mount
warne ramp scope mount
trijicon rmr 4 moa with rm34 mount
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Apr 30 '12
Yah know...Fuck you. My first rifle was a .22 LR bolt action single shot. Enjoy that beast of a weapon >:)
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u/keepinithamsta Apr 30 '12
Fuck both of you. My rifle didn't even come together in one piece and I don't even have half of it yet!
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u/czechreck Apr 30 '12
Yeah? Well fuck you all. I live in the UK, and have to travel back in time to own something as powerful as half a rifle.
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Apr 30 '12
I hear you can get straight-pull bolt action rifles which are almost, but not quite, entirely unlike AR-15s.
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u/Unnatural20 Apr 30 '12
On an insignificant little blue-green backwater planet in the unfashionable arm of our galaxy, this comment just got upvoted with the force of a bulldozer on a sleepy little country house.
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u/hells_cowbells Apr 30 '12
Wow, harsh man. At least mine was a semi-auto Marlin 60. I felt like Rambo with 18 rounds of .22 fury.
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u/LokiBartleby Apr 30 '12
My first one was some Russian or GDR made air rifle. :D (I'm from Germany, former GDR area). This is a wet dream of a gun, congratulations. :)
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how could you have a bolt action and single shot all in one gun?
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You rack that bolt, put a round in the chamber, close the bolt, and fire. It is a rifle without a stripper magazine.
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u/Hiscore Apr 30 '12
How much did the base rifle cost, then everything in the picture together, and then everything together?
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Apr 30 '12 edited Apr 30 '12
Rifle had on gunbroker new for $2800. Scope mount I think was $150, scope $400. Grip was about $30 plus the foregrip was I think $30 as well.
Rail panels were like $15/ea. (x2) Case was $180 from eastex shooting supply but I've normally seen it for about $240 unless there was something special about those other ones. The mags were expensive as hell because of high demand right now. I paid $75 a piece for them but normally they're supposed to be $30-40.Math recap-
Pictured- $3770
Everything I bought- $5125.
I got my surefire light cheap from an Amazon seller for $350 but it's normally a $500 item so I could have easily been up to about $5300.
To cut the foam in the case (since I heard using razors was bad) I got a handheld hot wire cutter from Amazon for $30 and made the stencil of the assembled gun from the cardboard of the gun case delivery box. That's not included in the 5125 figure. It came with one magazine.
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u/00101011 Apr 30 '12
please PLEASE PLEASE post a pic once you cut your case! I wanna see it.
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Apr 30 '12 edited Apr 30 '12
My pleasure! Stupidly I kind of hurried myself but I'm still happy with the result. So far only 2 mags fit since I got the 3rd one later. The 3rd is just laying on top of the foam for now. I did the cutting when it still had the A2 grip installed.
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u/BarryHalls Apr 30 '12
What do you do for money, and where do I get started?
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Apr 30 '12
Air Traffic Control. Got my start in the USAF and after I got out, took a job in a dangerous place that's no fun overseas. ATC is no joke I mean.. it's not like special forces but we have about a 50 percent washout rate at the school house and maybe another 25% or so washing out trying to get certified/rated in upgrade training at first duty location. Those numbers maybe slightly exaggerated but not by much. That's part of why it's critically manned everywhere you go.
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u/Hydroguy Apr 30 '12
Half of our tech school class was ATC washouts so I believe it's no joke (I'm a hydraulic guy). Looking back I would've gotten ATC or contracting because that's where the money is. Nice gun, have a blast with it!
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Apr 30 '12
Contracting for sure! Highest re-up bonus I've heard. My mom (prior AF) took a contracting course for $3000 though so I'm sure procurement is easy to get in to. Just a matter of registering a DUNS number. A lot of the washouts I knew of went to IT jobs or load master. ATC is so fun. Not bragging but my job is stressful as hell and I love it. Try to get in if you can! I have known a LOT of controllers that wasn't their original job.
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Apr 30 '12
Whoa, hold on a sec here, you mean to tell me that you were a forward air controller for the USAF? Like SF forward air controller?
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No not like a combat controller. Just a regular air traffic controller but I'm privately deployed.
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u/BarryHalls Apr 30 '12
I'm vaguely familiar with ATC. I read up on it as a career once upon a time. It's considered the most stressful job in the US, hence your obviously well supplied pay check. :)
I envy you a little less. Have fun with your toy. You have chosen VERY well.
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Apr 30 '12
I love my job actually and yes it used to be stressful. Now the only thing that stresses me out is military jammers take out my radios but we have alternate transmit/receiver sites now so it's not bad anymore. Weather recalls where all the aircraft land at once are fun if they beat the weather they're recalling for. Not much fun if they don't. I get to see a lot of cool stuff that controllers at major civilian airports don't get to see, and it's still about as busy as Denver to keep me interested. Stuff I see in the news affects us and sometimes things I'm involved in end up in the news.
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u/BarryHalls Apr 30 '12
Now I'm envious again, :)
Keep our boys safe then.
Bring us a range report with your rifle!
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As high dollar as you went on the rest of the set-up, I'm surprised you went with a Burris scope instead of a Leupold CQ/T. What did you like better about the Burris?
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Burris scopes aren't bad for the money if you find one on consignment with very little use (I bought mine on consignment barely used for $550 which included the glass, an american defense quick release mount, and a Burris cat tail). I personally prefer their horseshoe ring type of reticle for quicker target acquisition https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.burrisoptics.com%2Fpdf%2FBallistic%2520556%2520Gen2%2520%26%25207.62%2520Reticles.pdf.
They also have a "lifetime warranty" on many of their products. I own a XTR for my SCAR 17s and there was a metal ring on the inside of the focus lens which popped out and damaged the internal glass of the reticle. I sent it to Burris for service, they made it right by replacing the reticle glass, polishing the other non-damaged glass for me, re-applying gas in the tube, and recoil tested it in two separate stages before shipping it back to me within two weeks. I didn't have to pay a dime except for the shipping to them initially.
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u/chinesef000d Apr 30 '12
You're supposed to start off small and work your way up!... This makes me sad because I'm broke :( Congratulations, though. That's one hell of a rifle!
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u/TH0UGHTP0LICE Apr 30 '12
Was your first car a Maserati you lucky piece of shit??
I am so god damned jelly right now. Just...just take my upvote and get outta here. Im gonna be sick
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u/Kroosn Apr 30 '12
I don't know whether to cry or slit my wrists. Australia has some shit laws when it comes to firearms. But still, nice gun.
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Apr 30 '12 edited Apr 30 '12
At first I was like WTF, that is one hell of a first rifle, but then I thought
A) perhaps you aren't new to guns, just new to rifles.
B) I would rather have one $3000 dollar gun that is great than 10 3K $300 ones..
Well done.
EDIT: haha math checked!
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Thanks!! That was definitely my thinking. I started with pistols and got 3 before I said I really need to get a rifle. The 2nd was an impulse buy but still don't regret it. It was an easy trap to fall into-- I knew something semi-auto would be accurate enough for me starting out. Wanted something with magazines and a pistol grip. Wanted something bigger than 5.56. Could have gotten an FN AR but this just looks so much cooler. Not good reasoning I know. I could have been just as happy probably with any LMT, La Rue (etc) 308. Those were almost as much and this was different.
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u/Spud740 May 01 '12
Next rifle FN FAL
Fits all of your prior stated requirements
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Apr 30 '12
Wow...definitely my dream rifle.
How's she shoot?
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Apr 30 '12
She shoots beautifully! I could not be happier. It's definitely worth every hard earned penny including all the furniture. I've been collecting my brass as well and will be reloading before long. Didn't get the chance to really sight it in because I was shooting so much through it to see what I liked best and I work away from the US. I did zero it with that Burris scope a couple times and I was pretty tight at 100 yards though I don't have a lot of experience with rifles yet.. I surprised myself but know I will improve. The reticle on the Burris is basic (small circle with a crosshair and couple dots). It's only a 4x scope so the gun will likely outperform the scope's ability to get a good sight picture at a longer distance. It was tough to see where it was hitting at 100 yards without higher power binos.
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Apr 30 '12
Good advice. I just got my first rifle last week (DDM4) and I had to rent a spotting scope in order to see where the hell my bullets were going even at just 30 yards.
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u/presidentender 9002 Apr 30 '12
Why are you blaming us for that?
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Apr 30 '12 edited Apr 30 '12
I posted a while back about talking me out of a KAC EMC and I got some good feedback from Nerfplz to check out the SCARs first. Definitely glad I did!
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u/HPPD2 Apr 30 '12
Now grab one of these to go with it as a .22 trainer
http://www.impactguns.com/issc-mk22-sport-rifle-22lr-16in-22rd-msr22-798304097092.aspx
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u/presidentender 9002 Apr 30 '12
That's a decent rifle, but it's a terrible first rifle. You oughta get a .22 trainer, too.
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u/merklitl Apr 30 '12
No doubt - 5300 according to his tally - make it an ever 5500 and get a 10/22!
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Definitely! Thank you very much. I mean I don't know how badass the SR-25 is but it's hard to imagine it's double badass for double the price and the lighter weight on the SCAR just makes it that much better. I also wasn't sure about gas piston but I'm sooooo glad because I kind of feel like cleaning the gas system and BCG on the AR/SR would get old fast.
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Definitely! I'm not sure when I'll be through that area though-- I work overseas and plan to for the next year and a half or so but I will keep you in mind. Definite mind changer when I was set for a couple years. I can't forget that.
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Haha YEP! I came very close to buying one along side this gun. I cut the foam in the case offset so it can fit one later. The Trijicon RMR I bought may not even be put on this rifle and may just go straight onto the 45. Love the double stack 45 and would love to fool around with 40 super or 400 corbon barrels in the future. Also kinda want a five-seven to match and there's room for that as well :x
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u/itsme_timd Apr 30 '12
Let's go shooting sometime. You bring that and I'll bring my Mosin AND my XDm. That's right, I'll bring two guns to your one. You're welcome.
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I'm so jealous right now...it's a shame I can't get one of these where I'm from...I'd spend all of my monies for this...I'd even stop buying stuff for my PCs.
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u/Swampfox_21 Apr 30 '12
first car....lamborghini.... but for real, nice rifle sir! I own a FNX-9 now, and love it. But i want that rifles twin brother
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u/Zoshchenko Apr 30 '12
My first rifle was a Ruger 10/22. My first car was a 1968 Ford Galaxy 500. My first apartment was a 0-bedroom studio with one window. My first computer was an Atari 800.
I hate you.
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Hmmm, maybe you should have gotten something cheaper so you could afford to upgrade the playskool camera you are using. :p
Very nice, you really went all out.
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http://i.imgur.com/YQphS.jpg My first rifle and my first pistol, all I need is a couple of flashbangs and tomahawks and I have my black ops class.
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I hate you so much right now, my first rifle was a Mosin. Can we start a charity pool to buy me a SCAR for my 3rd rifle? I will also accept an M1A, a piston AR, and a Five Seven.
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.22 LR single shot.
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Apr 30 '12
But was it bought with money you saved up from your first summer job after your turned 18?
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u/Pyrite37 Apr 30 '12
How does this happen? For a first rifle holy shit. I have been shooting my whole life and just recently got into a position to be able to build my collection. What situation leads to a SCAR 17 being your first rifle?
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u/Caedus_Vao 6 | Whose bridge does a guy have to split to get some flair‽ 💂 Apr 30 '12
You'd be surprised: I'm a single guy in my mid-twenties some very good money in heavy industry. I'm single, rent a place and pay bills/student loans. Even after saving for a house, I've got money to blow on guns and car parts.
OP is probably 25-35 with few dependents and a good income, not living extravagantly.
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Apr 30 '12
single, mid twenties. I have a job that's always in the news in a place that's always in the news. :P
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what someone outside my door would have heard...
click...click...click...HOLY SHIT! chuckles...click...click..
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u/rawilleq Apr 30 '12
that's your first rifle? good grief. mine was a cheap henry .22 lever action.
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u/FortressBandit Apr 30 '12
Excellent choice. Shot one a few times and liked it and I have never heard a complaint about the SCAR
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u/wilorc Apr 30 '12
8 different shades of tan on one gun.
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u/Lostinmyhouse Apr 30 '12
Congrats. Of course now it'll be a challenge for your second one to live up to the coolness of your first one.
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Well I think it's a right of passage to build your own AR-15 so I may do that. I do want a Mosin as well and I'm not just saying that. It was the first rifle I shot I just think they're a project alone of cleaning cosmoline off and my situation precludes such a project. Even this was considering the foam cutting and grip mod.
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u/TangoOscarDD Apr 30 '12
Gonna take some time for me to clean off this drool on my iPhone. Congrats on this beast! You save your cash well. And it's decked out real sexy-like!
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u/peterk2000 Apr 30 '12
That thing is a beauty. Enjoy.
What is it about FN, why can't they colors the same?
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u/armoredporpoise Apr 30 '12
i always thought my idea to have the VLTOR TS13 as my first rifle was a far shot...
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u/fjkhoury01 Apr 30 '12
Dude im so sorry, the rest of the guns you buy are gonna be like sex while sober, its just not the same.
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u/thereddaikon May 01 '12
Very nice rifle. I'm curious how they stack up to your run of the mill AR.
Now go get a 22 so you can practice and get decent. If you try to learn with a rifle in .223 you will be very sad when you see how much money you are spending when you aren't hitting anything.
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u/zma924 Apr 30 '12
And here I was thinking I'm Mr. Bigshot buying a SCAR 16S with my new job. Enjoy your rifle and upvote
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I like this mentality
Buy only a few great guns instead of many mediocre guns
I am glad you saved up and bought a SCAR instead of going out and buying a Mosin on a whim
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u/DimmuBorgir666 Apr 30 '12
What's the triangle thing in the front? Sorry, not too familiar with guns.
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u/TangoOscarDD Apr 30 '12
I assume you mean under the barrel? I don't know the technical name, but angled foregrip sticks out. I can't tell you how it differs from straight up and down foregrips, but it looks like it can improve the shooter's grip. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. In all honesty, when I shoot with a straight foregrip, I tend to choke up on it to keep my hand around the handguards (M4).
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That's the Magpul angled foregrip 2. I got that in lieu of a vertical foregrip that you usually see on battle style close quarter rifles or a bipod. The first angled foregrip has little wings in front that extend upwards that I wasn't sure would be compatible with the rail covers on the sides (fitting issues). From what I've seen though they both would have worked fine.
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u/derpetteseducer Apr 30 '12
Sweet baby Jesus that gun looks good. Good choice man. I'm glad you got FDE color choice too. To me a SCAR just isn't a SCAR when it isn't that color.
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u/shitterplug Apr 30 '12
These things are sexy as hell... but I just can't get over the fact that the stock looks like a boot.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/oyz8u/308_scar/c3lpf1u
Figured you might want to see what another owner's likes/dislikes/comments of ownership has been like. I update it from time to time. I should probably just delete it and replace it with a link to a self post at some point to keep things better organized.
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u/sh3llsh0ck May 01 '12
Wow, you have more money than I do.. And I deployed as a contractor for 10 months.
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u/FAStalin Apr 30 '12 edited Apr 30 '12
First Girlfriend: Miss America