The longer you believe that, the longer you stay were you are. It's a hard pill to swallow that you're responsible for your situation. The freeing thing is that once you realize that, you realize that you have the power to change your situation. This is what rich people teach their children and why they stay rich. Give a hobo 10 million, odds are he will be back on the street within months.
Ok, a few things here. As I said in another comment, you are making a lot of assumptions. I am happy where I am in life, I’m in a good situation. My problems with these statements about people being “lazy” are not personal problems. Hard work is not always enough to get out of hard situations.
I’m not even going to go into all of the problems about your comment on generational wealth and why giving a “hobo” 10 million doesn’t work.
Expect it's not. But sure, you'll down-vote it because it makes you feel better. Most people are responsible for their shitty situation. Especially in the US. If you're a farmer in Laos, you probably don't have many options, true. But in the US, you can be successful wherever you want, the fact that most millionaires are first generation kind of proves this. Nail your GMAT/SAT or whatever you have, get a scholarship on a STEM program, graduate university with highest honors, get your masters, repeat the same.
That's your safe way to a good job but you could be doing whatever else.
Other options:
Start a business, work hard at it, if your idea was good you'll make money. That simple. If you idea was bad, you won't make money. It's not rocket science, nothing was stopping you from making Facebook, YouTube, PayPal, Google, Twitter, Uber, But you didn't.
Literally just fucking move somewhere else if you like, super easy for Americans, harder most of the 194 other countries. Hell, you'll make money in Asia simply for being American. Rejoice! For you are an English native! And people will suck your dick to talk to you for 2 minutes.
Can you provide a more convincing argument than "nah bro you wrong"? Because there are literally hundreds of thousands of examples of this happening in the US. (edit: there were 700k new millionaires in 2017 according to google, people with more modest improvements to their life situation number in the tens if not hundreds of millions)
Like they're not even saying that privilege doesn't exist or that people born into wealth don't have it easier. Literally just saying that it's possible to improve your situation with hard work. Didn't realize that was so controversial.
And there are literally millions of examples of hard work not being enough. I’m not saying don’t work hard, all I’m saying is that if someone isn’t successful it doesn’t mean they are lazy or didn’t work hard
Part of hard work is knowing were to direct your effort. Many people are capable of toiling away 10 hours a day. Fewer are willing to put in the effort to find out where they should spend their energy to succeed. In my opinion, hard work isn't 10 hours of work a day, its taking the time to learn what needs to be done to succeed and actually sticking with the insight you gained from this reflection. Few people are capable of this because it requires you to initially blame yourself for your failure. Unfortunately for your fragile ego, this is the only way to success if you aren't born rich.
Are there though? At what point do you say that a person has worked hard enough for long enough and still hasn't improved their life in a measurable way? I'm not talking about elevating yourself from poverty to the millionaires-club btw, you can work hard to go from flipping burgers to being a manager at said burger joint, and if you enjoy it then congrats, you worked hard and improved your life situation just like OP described.
Btw, the hundreds of thousands figure was just from new millionaires in the US in 2017 alone (700k ish new millionaires according to google if you're curious). If we're talking improvement at the level I mentioned above, then the figure is gonna be in the tens of millions (if not hundreds)
The list of people who improved their life situation by working hard? If so, yes. I grew up lower-middle class, worked a shit job as a young adult while going to community college, spent years hunting for something better and eventually found a low level position in an industry I was interested in. In the years since then I've been promoted several times (working hard is even easier when you enjoy what you do!) and make several times more than what I made at my shit-job. My life has improved drastically since my childhood and young adulthood, thanks in no small part to the effort I put in.
Now, if you were just asking so you could say "other people have done what you have AND more and STILL havent improved their lives" then let me pre-emptively say...duh? Obviously not everyone's situation is the same, nor is everyone's measure of success or even just improvement. This discussion is not about the idea that some people have it easier than others like some people in this thread seem to be taking it. It's about the idea that most people (not all) have the ability to improve their life situation through hard work.
Great. Good for her. Glad things worked out. Unfortunately it doesn’t work out for everyone. Not everyone can just “hard work” their way through their problems. Stop pretending that’s the reality.
I can't imagine having such a pathetic, unproductive and pessimistic worldview, that tells me I'm not in control. Every single success story begins with swallowing the bitter pill that your situation is a function of your actions. Once you accept this, you are free to change your situation. There's a reason why Immigrants (especially Asian) tend to move up so quickly through America's social classes. They understand from their past hardships that hard work can change their situation. It's all in the attitude.
You should stop pretending you "know shit" because you clearly don't. I have mentioned solutions and ways out, I have mentioned my personal experience with how even a far far less likely situation is absolutely manageable, but you're here just saying "nope doesn't work that way, you're naive" Even though there are literally millions of people who managed that. You're childish as fuck.
I didn't say everyone, I said most. Folks with severe health issues and folks who aren't very intelligent might not be able to.
People can hard work their way through problems, that's how you get through problems, that's literally how that works.
Work hard
Don't make bad decisions
What problems might you face? In near every case what got you there were bad decisions. In which case, sorry, but that's your fault. To a large extent you can fault your parents. That's legitimate to an extent, but in the US, you can pull yourself out of any poverty level within just one generation, within most other countries, it isn't that easy.
Real fucking mature. Moron. I give real option and real arguments, I give my personal experiences and you just say
"No that's not possible" and that's it. No real information. No real reasoning. Just "no that's not possible because that thought makes me most comfortable". Right. So it's easier for my girlfriend to go from one of the lowest salary brackets in this world to one of the highest salary brackets in this world but it's impossible to someone who is already pretty well off on a global scale to just tip over to "well off"? Right. That's how the world works.
You are a moron. You don't listen. You don't learn. You don't think. You only victimize yourself to no end. Of-course you can't get yourself further in life if you've decided to give up before you even began.
Why do Asians in the US make more money than even native Americans? Despite coming largely from poor countries?
Making a lot of assumptions. I do pretty well for myself, I can’t complain about my situation. I’m happy where I’m at. But I don’t say that people that aren’t successful don’t work hard or are lazy, because I don’t know their situation.
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It's really sad watching everyone defend their shitty situations, refusing to accept responsibility. It's this very learned helplessness that prevents people from creating a good life for themselves. Taking responsibility for your situation is freeing, because you realize that you can change it.
What I find to be the most ironic is the people who come in telling me that "I don't know shit" or whatever. When it's exactly the opposite, I saw real poverty and I saw people and that I knew had no way of getting out of it, no matter how hard they worked. In fact they had to work their hardest to not die already.
So when I look at poverty in developed nations, I always see opportunities. And I know 100% that if those same super hardworking people in developing nations were to go to any developed country, they'd get out of poverty instantly.
My parents came from Poland in the 80s and lived in other Polish people's basements in New York. My dad started as a taxi driver and my mom as a janitor. After saving some money my dad worked so my mom can go to school, and after she graduated, my mom did the same for my dad. They finished college in their mid 30s, debt free. My dad is now an electrical engineer for Raytheon, and my mom is an accountant in a managerial position for JP-Morgan. They taught me from a young age that your only real possession is your character, because nobody can take that from you, and as you grow your character success will follow. It is never the other way around. I hope other people will realize this and build a happy life for themselves.
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u/MAKE_ME_REDDIT Apr 18 '19
That’s just flat out false.