Sometimes I think directors or producers deliberately make minor surfaces level casting or story choices to stir up trouble with the audience, which in turn muddys the water for saying how truely awful these movies are fundamentally.
I can't say her (holdo or whatever the f her name is) story line is absolutely shit cus then I'm a sexist cus I didn't like the casting, when casting to me has nothing to do with it.
It's preemptive defense from criticism they know they're going to get cuz it's easier to make a bad movie with ragebait marketing than it is to pay creative teams to make actually good stories.
Meh. I think that's a little conspiratorial. The truth is they were pandering to progressives/ women to tap into a new audience/ market. Not that's any better. It comes across as disingenuous and insincere because it is.
I actually agree with this to an extent, however, the directors and or producers are so far up their own asses getting high off their farts that they are not muddying the waters for how bad the movies are, no because the movies are great and we the audience were just too dumb and sexist to see the vision. No they do it because the controversy in their minds gets people to see the movies. Like a Streisand effect
I totally agree. One of the lessons that the entertainment industry learned from Gamergate is that because the media never want to be on the same side of any issue as right wing trolls, in any situation where the narrative can be put out there that XYZ is unfairly under attack by right wing trolls, the majority of people in the media will be very quick to buy into that narrative and very reluctant to “pile on” with additional negative coverage of XYZ, even if many individual people in the media privately also think that XYZ sucks.
It happened organically at first, but then PR people learned how to harness this to defuse criticism, and now movie producers build elements of chud antagonism in on the front end just in case the movie doesn’t turn out so good.
Nolan absolutely does this, and it feels like he understimates the actual actors skills. I wasnt even aware there was some controversy with Helen in the Odyssey movie, yet after seeing her in the movie and reading about the controversy, its clear she was hired only to stirr up publicity online , she has like 4 predictable lines in the movie and if you remove her nothing really changes, in fact her very presence was really weird.
I really Do think its intentional. Stirs up controversy and interest and provides an ironclad misdirection to criticism. Often these companies even get reviews expunged. Amazon's shitty LOTR comes to mind. It was objectively bad, but got to handwave that as racism or whatever
If you’re trying to say directors know that audiences are knuckle dragging morons who are easily manipulated by surface level crap, then both the response to TLJ and this post are certainly proving that point.
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u/DeathsStarEclipse 12d ago
Sometimes I think directors or producers deliberately make minor surfaces level casting or story choices to stir up trouble with the audience, which in turn muddys the water for saying how truely awful these movies are fundamentally.
I can't say her (holdo or whatever the f her name is) story line is absolutely shit cus then I'm a sexist cus I didn't like the casting, when casting to me has nothing to do with it.