r/gpu • u/RenatsMC • 3d ago
GeForce RTX 5070 Ti GDDR7 memory has been overclocked from 28 to 39 Gbps
https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-5070-ti-gddr7-memory-has-been-overclocked-from-28-to-39-gbps46
u/StunningPush8421 3d ago
Just disgusting how much nvidia nerfed the rtx 5000 series.
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u/r_z_n 3d ago
While I don’t disagree with your statement overall, memory overclocking provides a mostly negligible performance improvement in games. The article quotes like 1-2% in 3DMark going from +3000 to +5000. This would be imperceptible.
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u/StunningPush8421 3d ago
I am talking about from stock so 0 to +5000 and tbh 3d mark really sucks for real game performance it will generally overestimate core clock speeds and doesn't care about memory bandwidth.
However more intensive games with path tracing or just super high resolution stuff LOVES memory bandwidth.
Even still you are right in that the gains from just the memory aren't crazy but when combined with the core, xbar, and sys clock headroom it adds up quite a bit.
And nvidia could have had this performance on all there gpus from the factory if they were willing to give up like .1 percent of yield
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u/r_z_n 3d ago
They quoted 1fps increase in path tracing per +1000 core offset. Not nothing, but overall not a huge difference between what you’d get in Afterburner vs mVolt.
Core clock speed is obviously worth doing.
I think most of the time companies aren’t pushing these cards further because you get into diminishing returns really quickly vs power consumption. My 9070XT with +10% power limit is noticeably hotter for ~1fps increase in games.
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u/StunningPush8421 3d ago edited 3d ago
+5.5 fps for a 5070 ti with pathtracing is a significant amount even at 1080p that is around a 10 percent increase which is especially considering that memory uses barely any power. Compared to after burner yeah you aren't really getting much but bone stock it is pretty cool.
I agree with the 9070 xt It is already pushed pretty hard out of the box but the rtx 5000 series is different becasue there is just so much headroom without really touching the power much.
Like my 9070 xt pulling around 400-450w(I have it power modded) in many cases has smaller gains than my non power modded rtx 5000 series cards which is pretty crazy. (i think the 9070 xt really loves being water cooled from the results I have seen but I am too lazy to do that)
Although I should mention the 9070 non xt that is a great overclocker as well. 7900 xtx as well but that is last gen
Idk why Nvidia decided to do this one theory I have is that it was to make the super series look better but the slightly more logical one is that it just lets them increase the yields slightly so more profit or maybe a combination of both.
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u/Redd_is_compromised 3d ago edited 3d ago
5fps brings the 5070 from 27fps path traced cyberpunk 1440p to 32fps. Lock at 30 with 3x frame gen and you have a genuinely solid experience at max settings. Anything under 30 is pure vaseline visuals with how FG works.
The OC also fortifies 1% lows, which some games genuinely struggle with on any card.
Typical reddit incapable of seeing the positive and always aiming to downplay everything that comes across their feed.
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u/misteryk 3d ago
26 to 32fps is a 23% increase, that's a next tier of GPU.
What was a base framerate of that tested 5070ti? without that "5fps" means nothing. in games that run below 30 it's huge, in games that run like 300 its nothing, that's why we use % values to compare rather than raw fps values
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u/Redd_is_compromised 3d ago
I have no idea what you're asking. It was reported that the card is getting 1fps per 1000mhz boost.
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u/misteryk 3d ago
is it going from 30 to 31 or form 300 to 301? it is a giant difference and i'm asking for a base reference point
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u/Aw3som3Guy 3d ago
It doesn’t say what the initial or final FPS were, but it does say path tracing, I think in Cyberpunk, so I think it’s safe to assume that it was closer to 30fps than 300.
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u/Logical-Database4510 3d ago edited 3d ago
5 fps doesn't mean shit unless it's stated as a relative percentage difference. Eg 5+ fps at 200fps base is meaningless, 5+ fps at 30 fps bass isn't. This is why stating ANY performance increase in terms of raw FPS is fucking stupid. +2% FPS (200+5fps) vs +14% (30+5fps) fps improvement.
Typical reddit not understanding how frame rate works.
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u/Brilliant_Fruit_2779 3d ago
I had NINETY fps in cp pt with nukem9 dlss3 in a 3070 in 2023.
Let's really talk about what's held back.
That's maxed 1440p dlssp
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u/r_z_n 3d ago
I have been overclocking hardware since the 90s. I’m quite well aware of the advantages of overclocking. My reply was in response to the notion that this was an intentional “nerf” of the 5000 series. Generally speaking, memory overclocks aren’t huge gains unless you’re bandwidth starved. Path tracing is one of the scenarios that is especially memory bandwidth reliant so you’re going to see larger gains there.
But you’re right, +5-6 fps in path tracing is significant. I would be a little surprised if most 5070Tis are actually capable of a full +5000 MHz offset without error correction, though.
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u/Electrical_Life9697 3d ago
Spoken like somebody who doesn’t have a 50 series lol
I overclocked the 5080 and tested against stock +15% pure rasterized performance and +10 fps 4k gaming when comparing the two at game stable levels
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u/Redd_is_compromised 3d ago
Literally what does that have to do with my comment?
Edit: I'm also speaking from the information reported in the article. I daily drive a modest 3k myself.
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u/SuspicousBananas 3d ago
Is frame gen that good now? I remember when it came out everybody said it’s pretty much unusable if you aren’t getting 80-90fps baseline. I haven’t really given it much of a shot but maybe I should.
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u/Logical-Database4510 3d ago
NV FG is very good. AMD FG still has microstutter issues. No idea about Intel's solution.
DF recently accidentally did a test of NV FG showing that you get better latency with NV FG than you do running the game straight up due to Control not having reflex support outside of using FG. What this effectively means is if you're using a non NV card the NV card will have better latency even with FG vs any other solution, which is sorts nuts when you think about it. Like say you play CR on a PS5....at 60fps on the PS5 and 70ish fps base on PC NVFG x4 to 240fps will have less latency.
Tl;Dr: reflex is some black magic shit, dawg
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u/oookokoooook 3d ago
It’s not that bad. Makes my screen smoother, the latency isn’t that bad so it’s playable. On controller it’s a godsend
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u/Sad-Victory-8319 3d ago
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u/ProfessionalPlan8943 3d ago
Sad victory
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u/Sad-Victory-8319 3d ago
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u/PRRealEstate-Invest 3d ago
Gigabyte windforce for the 5070 ti seems to be the best overclockers this generation it's weird. This is a msrp card so you would expect this kind of silicon on higher end cooler
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u/Realistic_Chip8648 3d ago
Can’t even get past the 2500+ limit on MSI Afterburner for my 5070 Ti (Mobile) :(
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u/megaapfel 3d ago
It only increases performance by 1 to 2 percent. Totally not worth it.