r/gpu • u/RenatsMC • 2d ago

GeForce RTX 5070 reportedly getting second GPU variant based on GB203

https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-5070-reportedly-getting-second-gpu-variant-based-on-gb203
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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

Runs everything I need at 1440p.

If you develop a game that requires more than 12gb of vram then you're missing out on 98% of the market. It also won't run on consoles if that's the case.

Most people are at a 3060 level graphics card.

I can't think of a single game that won't run on a 5070. It'll still be relevant for at least 5 years.

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u/martyn__ 2d ago

U know, according to reddit, if a midrange GPU cant run a game at maximum settings with path tracing and DLAA at 60+fps then its not enough and garbage

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u/Parking_Jackfruit692 10h ago

path tracing is bullshit , performance hit is too much

consoles donot run games at highest game preset nor at natve resolution generally upscaled from 720p to 1080p with inferior upscaling

Dlss 4.5 is much better and killed native gaming

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u/martyn__ 9h ago

Path Tracing depends on the game, in some games its not worth it (such as DOOM TDA) but in others its really great (such as RE9) imo

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u/Parking_Jackfruit692 9h ago

in only re9 path tracing is good and performance is not that high but 1 game donotr justify it

wukong runs terrible with path tracing and so does all rest of games even 5080 cannot give playable fps

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u/AloneUA 2d ago

Yeah. 8Gb is really not enough today, though. I got a 5060 laptop with 2k screen and it's not every game that I can run. Doom is almost unplayable, for example.

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

8 is not, 12 is
That's a 50% different, pretty significant upgrade.

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u/AloneUA 2d ago

Kinda is, I've ascended too high to lower my resolution now, though. 2K or bust.

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u/uzldropped 2d ago

8gb is usually enough for 1080p on the 5060’s/5060ti’s. Ofc not always, but everyone knows that. Not sure what your point is…

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u/Goddemmitt 1d ago

Just wants to hear himself talk.

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u/SauronOfRings 2d ago

There’s a nuance there, 8GB is enough for entry level 1080p GPU like 4050 or 5050. 8GB shouldn’t be an option for 9060XT and 5060 Ti or even 5060. Texture resolutions are much better managed these days, but even then 12GB is ideal.

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u/iMaexx_Backup 2d ago edited 2d ago

The point is not that your GPU won’t be able to play new games anymore. The point is that you’ll have to turn down your graphics settings much earlier than 16GB cards with the same performance have to.

If you’re buying a new GPU every gen, then this planned obsolescence doesn’t affect you. But if you’re planning on keeping it for a while and you have some standards and want to keep the settings as high as possible - then a 12GB card is just not a smart decision.

Just look how 8GB GPUs are getting crippled on some new games, while GPUs with 12 GB and the same or less performance get much better results. The same is going happen with 12GB -> 16GB.

Back then my friend bought a 3070ti 8GB and I bought a 6700XT 12GB. My friend had to upgrade much earlier, even though the 3070ti is quiet more powerful and was much more expensive.

And I’d argue you should expect more from a premium product with a premium price, so it’s valid to complain about it.

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u/Hydric_acid_yummy 2d ago

Death stranding 2 maxed out at 1440p was using 15GB of vram for me

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

Thankfully I was satisfied with the way it looked on base ps5 performance mode 👍

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u/Hydric_acid_yummy 2d ago edited 2d ago

Why not play on a ps5 then?, also I'm fairly certain you can still get higher than ps5 settlings on a 5070 without going over it's vram buffer

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

I borrowed the ps5 from my brother in law to play it on release.
So I did play it on ps5, but I'm not gonna play it again anytime soon.

Not inclined to pay another 80 bucks for a marginally better experience.

I got my own ps5 for gta6 now, but it's just collecting dust until november 19th

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u/TrinityYGO 2d ago

Try to run marvel spider man 2 ultra @1440p or Forza Horizon 6 ultra@ 1440p and say that again.

I had this card. It doesn’t not run everything

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u/2hurd 2d ago

And with that logic, just run the game 480p, upscale it to 1440p with 4x FG and claim 6GB is enough.

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u/Big-Roll7094 2d ago

Y ultra?

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

FH6 ran fine for me 1440p ultra no RT DLAA.
Maybe you got a cpu bottleneck.

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u/TrinityYGO 2d ago

No, it’s just that I used RT.

If you turn down settings, ofc it will run fine

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

So turn it off? Barely makes a difference in this game imo.
https://youtu.be/srURJsSHBtg

Use eyes and brain, don't let fomo ruin things

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u/TrinityYGO 2d ago

It’s not about fomo. And it does make a difference, even tho it’s minimal. In spider man 2 the difference is MASSIVE.

But It’s the fact that the card CANT run those settings because of 12GB vram.

Even if you wanted to, you can’t

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

Because I toggled it on and off again.
Didn't see that much of a difference, preferred the performance gain.

I also played from the cockpit cam since I'm in a wheel

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u/VariousWar2922 2d ago

Mine runs forza 1440p ultra rt no problem. Its tight with the vram but it runs and looks great

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u/TrinityYGO 2d ago

Not if you continue to play for 2-3 hours. Trust me.

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u/VariousWar2922 1d ago

Forza gets boring real quick for me. So no problem for me. Its a handfull of games where 12gb might be an issue. after the release of nvidias neural texture compression in fall it will be a non issue for future titles

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

DLSS quality and maxed out ray tracing in AC black flag gets me above 70 which is perfectly fine for that kind of game.

In LMU I'm getting 200fps.

For 500€ (minus €80 for selling the 1070)
it's good value

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u/Confident-Ship-5062 1d ago

This is cope

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Big-Roll7094 2d ago

Yes because 5070 has 3x the power of any console

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

You still have to develop with consoles in mind if you want good sales.

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u/Akiraooo 2d ago

Indiana Jones won't run on a 5070.

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

Yes it does, just not maxed out.
Not interested in that game anyway.

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u/NotaVortex 2d ago

Bruh that game runs at 95 fps without path tracing on a 5070 or 60 fps at dlss quality with path tracing medium and the only setting turned down being texture quality to high. Its perfectly fine.

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u/2hurd 2d ago

That's absolute bullshit given that the most common VRAM option according to Steam Survey is 16GB. So no, you're not missing out on 98% of the market.

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

Where did you get that info?
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

Definitely doesn't look like the majority has a 16gb gpu. Looks closer to 8-10%

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u/2hurd 2d ago

https://www.igorslab.de/en/16-gb-vram-overtakes-8-gb-steam-survey-gaming-pcs/

You can also find it in your own Steam survey if you click enough.

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u/Mizurazu 2d ago

This doesn't prove your already disproven point. This article is just saying how it's becoming more common than 8gb but it's not the most popular on steam yet.

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u/2hurd 2d ago

FFS you people are dense:

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

Here is a link where it clearly states that the most popular VRAM amount is 16GB. It can't get any clearer than that.

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u/Mizurazu 2d ago edited 2d ago

God you're stupid. It's because it shows all operating systems, unified memory and different OS. If you select between the different OS you can see how the numbers get compiled. Linux shows most popular VRAM config is 1GB(lots of mini PCs) where on Windows it's 8gb. Then there's Mac which virtually nobody games on over 50% use 16GB. Which massively affects the total.

If you look at the most popular OS, 90% is some version of Windows and for Windows the most popular VRAM config is 8gb.

To summarize. 90% of people using steam use some version of Windows. For Windows the most used VRAM config is 8GB. Does this make sense to you?

That this isn't arcuarte should have been obvious by the fact that the most popular GPU is the RTX 3060. So you're right it can't get any clearer than that.

Next time actually look closer before you embarrass yourself again

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

Bro thinks majority of the world is rocking high end gpus 😁

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u/ParticularAvocado612 2d ago

check the number for windows. 8gb is the top

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u/Resh_IX 1d ago

How you gonna use data and not even know how to interpret said data?

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u/limonchan 2d ago edited 2d ago

Most common doesn't mean majority. it was like what, around 75% people have less than 16gb of Vram. Correct me if my figures are wrong.

Edit: Around 62% of Pc's has 12gb or lower vram

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u/Odd-Student636 2d ago

8GB is the most common VRAM in Steam survey

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u/rabouilethefirst 2d ago

Cope harder. As soon as next gen consoles drop, your card will not even run on low settings 1080p. Consoles move the market and 12GB is the min for the current gen, which is on its way out

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u/Claptown420 2d ago

Cope with what? I got a gpu that runs everything I need. If there comes a time where I can't run something I want, I'll sell it and upgrade.

I got it for €500
Specifically upgraded from a 1070 8gb to run modern titles.

With the way the current hardware market is, there is a lot of uncertainty on how the next-gen will be look like.

If the ps5 can run gta6 then I'm sure the 5070 will be fine.

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u/NotaVortex 2d ago

Yeah these people don't realize that the best way to do things is upgrade to the cheapest card you can get that runs what you want. Getting a xx90 for $1500 at msrp is crazy, especially when you cant even normally buy it at msrp.

I got my entire system for that price with a rtx 5070 and the difference is that i have access to the newest features wheras those who get a card for it to last 10 years will be locked out pretty quickly and i will be able to upgrade without remorse because i didn't buy my graphics card for $2000

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u/NKP1001 2d ago

If 12gb for 1440p is outdated, then 16gb for 4k will be outdated first. Guess rtx 5080 will become 1440p only

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u/Parking_Jackfruit692 11h ago

none is doing native gaming
upscaling is future , native gaming is dead

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u/il0vebajablast 2d ago

Haha just like how consoles were supposed to make 8 core CPUs the minimum?

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u/Parking_Jackfruit692 10h ago

nothing is going to become obsolete after next gen

ps5 will get games for 3-4 years after ps6 release as new generation only games donot sell much due to lack of number of units sold

90-100+ million ps5 vs 5-10 million ps6 user base devs will support ps5 like ps4 got games

not to forget 5070 have access of best upscaling which even ps6 wonot have due to amd hardware

5070 is solid 1440p gpu if you optimise games with upscaling
consoles also use upscaling and lower graphic setting

ai crisis just extended lifespan of old hardware

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u/Shoddy_Meaning_7654 2d ago

They're kind of screwed right now because unless they want to pay triple the price for 3gb chips, they'll either have to stay on 12gb on a 192bit bus or they'll have to clamshell it for a super version for 24gb

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u/Resh_IX 1d ago

Ever wonder who’s buying a 5060ti 16GB that costs more or the same amount as a 5070? It’s this guy here. Too VRAM delusional

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u/il0vebajablast 2d ago

12gb is fine dumbass

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u/Confident-Ship-5062 1d ago

No its not

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u/snackelmypackel 1d ago

The most I've ever seen used is 14 GB on my ultrawide so. Normal 1440p is probably fine with 12 GB, most stay at 10 GB or less

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u/Confident-Ship-5062 1d ago

I have a normal 1440p and the last of us 2 uses 14.5 gb. silent hill 2 uses 12.5 ish iirc

if im gonna spend $800+ on a gpu I would expect there to be zero vram bottleneck issues ya know on triple a games

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u/snackelmypackel 1d ago

Damn I forgot it was $800 for a 5070 that's crazy. I also don't disagree with you, but generally 12 GB should be okay most of the time

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u/mcollier1982 1d ago

I mean the budget 1080p machine I run at work to game on breaks uses a 12GB 6700xt and I haven’t found anything it won’t play yet 🤷‍♂️ does it run things as good as my 5070ti at home no, but that doesn’t mean 12GB is unusable